...pretty much anything else that comes to mind. Deathstroke's high and low gunshots, Green Lantern's bullet (when crouched), Martian Manhunter's alien pillar, Sinestro's fear blast, Zod's side arm (when crouched), etc.
MB torpedo controls vertical mobility by punishing back dashes. It also forces opponents to crouch occasionally because no opponents want to be at a disadvantage with Flash in their face. This "occasional crouch" allows you to close the gap with one of the best forward dashes in the game.
By your own admission, MB torpedo creates 7:3 match ups against large characters like Bane, Doomsday, and Lex Luthor because they cannot duck the second hit.
No offense, but I am not sure whether you are stupid to realize that the only reason Flash is top 5 and a character like Wonder Woman is not is because of MB torpedo. It is one of the best special moves in the game. And no you cannot have it and 60% combos. One or the other has to go.
You're talking as if you're facing the AI on expert where he can literally punish anything with LC. That shit doesn't happen in real matches because many of those moves you mentioned can either be MBed to make them safe (thus making Flash get hit and preventing Flash from attempting to punish them) or require incredibly tight reactions and if Flash is slow by a few frames, he gets punished. Show me a Flash player that will ALWAYS punish anything with MB LC. That shit doesn't happen. And gtfo if you're gonna tell me that makes me a 'fool'.
Punishing back dashes is just you being salty that you can't abuse Zod's backdash in game. And by the way, punishing back dashes is a hard read. Not a reaction. If I'm wrong I'm eating your highest damaging combo AND wasting a bar of meter. If a Flash player constantly hits you with MB LC half screen it means you're super predictable so level the fuck up. Not to mention that there's multiple times when I MAKE THE RIGHT READ in calling a back dash but I just go through the player that back dashes with my LC.
The 'occasional crouch' thing is being overrated because a good player will never let you dash in their face for free. MB LC is never a free way in because it's a punishable move that wastes a bar of meter. The only way Flash is getting in against top players is making well timed jump ins, walking/footsies and utilizing the hell out of B2 to close the gap.
I have Doomsday and Lex as 6-4 for Flash, not 7-3. Bane is still a debatable 7-3, potentially 6-4. Ducky thinks Bane vs Flash is 5-5. lol. It shows how little you really know about the Flash because Doomsday ducks the second hit of MB LC almost every time. Like 95% success rate.
@Zyphox makes a good point that Flash doesn't really dominate any characters in the game. His only MU that I would say is 100% a 7-3 is against the Joker. All his other MU's are debatable 5-5, 6-4 and some people even think he loses some MUs 4-6. He's not over powered, especially when you look at characters like MMH, AM, Zod and BG.
If NRS were to release a patch, I think nerfing any characters would be stupid aside from:
- Make AMs MB TR do 5-7% chip and build back 20% meter (change non-MC TR to do 3% chip)
- Make MMH's orbs disappear when hit
- Make MMH's trait have an extra 3 seconds of cool down
- Make BG's F23 have extra damage scaling on it and whatever other string it is she uses in the corner. Making her get 40% in her corner combos instead of 53%.
- Make Zod only be able to have 2 of the same speed ZB on screen at a time.
- That's it.
Any other changes should be buffs to characters that need it.
