General/Other - Ermac Ermac Pre-Release General Discussion Thread

[Shark Tank]

His ex Telekinetic push drain meter just so you can update it.

Mystic 0r vanilla push

 

[lmx17]

he only has Telekinetic push or force

Mystic 0r vanilla push

it for mystic, he only has force push(Telekinetic push) in mystic.

 

[Fred Marvel]

looks dope but that walkspeed.....

 

[Shark Tank]

So I know it's a particle effect but...is that close the the hitbox. That green shit like goes halfscreen

also ermacs b2 variant

I want to soar HIGHERRRRRRRR than an EAGLEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

 

[Kindred]

So I know it's a particle effect but...is that close the the hitbox. That green shit like goes halfscreen

It looks like a half screen yea. The hitbox is probably similar to his MK9 TKL. In this case Subby was close range so the animation just reverts him to the default distance of the move.

And I love the B2 variant
it seems like ermac has a lot of combos where they expect you to D1 into a lift or something. On X360 it was impossible for me to land those and I blame the shitty dpad. I'm curious to see how this game plays on the new Xbox1 dpad and hopefully a better netcode

 

[Shark Tank]

Force blast also has quick startup and seems like it has a solid hitbox on it.

Spoiler

 

[Killphil]

Ermac looks epic. I don't believe he's evil btw, just personal note. He may have Kahn's soul but pretty sure he said "We oppose the Emperor" and still has King Jerrod's soul, perhaps someone will free him at some point.

They say that to Kotal Khan does they not? Kotal Khan was the more recent emperor of Outworld so I think the context is a little different. If they had said that during Scorpion's intro then it would be different.

 

[MKF30]

They say that to Kotal Khan does they not? Kotal Khan was the more recent emperor of Outworld so I think the context is a little different. If they had said that during Scorpion's intro then it would be different.

Yes, they said to kotal kahn. Though they said to scorpion 'our creator is apart of us' also doesnt mean hes loyal to kahn, remember king jerrod among other souls kahn killed are in there so shoukd be interesting to see the convo between ermac and kitana.

 

[Shark Tank]

His teleport might have different enders?

Spoiler

He does the latter quite often. I can't tell if the former is the ex version or it's decided by player kinda how scorpions is. They're both ex. Or if it's just a string(he does it pretty fast afterword, seems to quick)

 

[WakeUp DP]

He reminds me of GL, very slow and he even has a string that looks like Gls 223 the last hit is a kick.

 

[shaowebb]

I am digging Mystic Ermac pretty hard. Master of Souls will be my backup. Not a lot of interest in the hover though...which is odd considering I played mainly Hawkgirl/Bane and it should feel right at home with my Hawkgirl stuff. Love this character...Ermac was so fucking cool in MK9.

 

[KayyKnow]

Ninja---->Mummy---->Wizard

Discuss

Disclaimer: The following information may be inaccurate or subject to change. Plz no blowups if I got something wrong. Just tag me and I'll change it.
VARIATIONS

Master of Souls

• Has three spinning green orbs around him.
• Grants Soul Ball Special move
• Souls appear to recharge over time. Souls get used when soul ball is used.
• Gains Disappear

Mystic

• Hands glow green
• Alters telekinetic moves
• Alters Telekinetic force(alter to telekinetic push, very similar to the mk9 version)
• Alters Telekinetic slam(levitates them)

Spectral

• Glowing green gem in chest
• Loses Levitate
• Gains Hover

Special Moves

Telekinetic Force

• New version of his force push from MK9, short range blast in front of him.
• Can be angled upward
• Ex Version knocks back further.
• Can be done in air
• Ex air version ground bounces

Telekinetic Slam

• NO LONGER GRANTS COMBO ON HIT FOR REGULAR VERSION(except in mystic, see Mystic.)
• Ex Version does juggle

Levitate

• Similar to MK9's version
• Has a ground slam, unblockable, hits all screen. Need to be airborne to avoid. Moves him forward slightly
• Can use a teleport drop kick during levitate
• No available in spectral

Teleport

• Horizontal screen teleport
• Now knocks down on hit. Can be juggled after
  
• EX version has armor/invincibility on start up? Floats opponent higher on hit.
• Can be done airborne

Soul Ball(Master of Souls)

• Projectile move
• When use with three souls, it will stun the opponent
• When not three souls, just regular projectile
• Can also "explode" the projectile to launch(when opponent is stunned).
• Can be performed in the air

Disappear(aka wowwow)(Master of Souls)

• Goes into a state of invulnerability/invisibility.
• Cannot move
• Can do moves out of it.
• Only last a short while.
• Move has a recovery timer
• Can be done in air

Telekinetic Slam(Mystic)

• On hit, now levitates the opponent upside down for #freecombos
• EX version unknown

Telekinetic Push(Mystic)

• Reminiscent of the MK9 Telekinetic Push
• On hit will grab opponents and knocks the full screen
• Longer range than unaltered Telekinetic Force
• Ex Version burns meter

Hover(Spectral)

• Can do attacks and special moves using hover
• Can activate hover airborne or grounded
• Unknown if hover has it's own unique special moves
• You can start combos using hover normals->teleport(even if opponent is grounded on hit)
• Can use intractables during hover
• Cannot block during hover
• Has a time limit
• Ex Version Unknown
• Has a superman like horizontal attack during hover. Grab?

Strings/Normals
D4 is an upward kick

B2 unblockable string looks to be back. Or variation of it.

Has like machine gun pew pew string.

Gifs

Spoiler

liked this post just because titlle says lift em up slam em down. Lol do u even lift? Stay troll

 

[MrSoloLobo]

I'll be using Ermac again and am very excited he is back. I hope to contribute a lot. He looks very cool!

 

[Barrogh]

Thanks a lot for this post, @Shark Tank.
Now I feel a lot better about Ermac, he may end up interesting to play (didn't have chance to watch entire stream yet, so yeah).

Small nitpicking: pretty sure "knockdowns" and "launches for combo" are mutually exclusive things (assuming generally used terms), but I see what you mean with that teleport description.

 

[Shark Tank]

Thanks a lot for this post, @Shark Tank.
Now I feel a lot better about Ermac, he may end up interesting to play (didn't have chance to watch entire stream yet, so yeah).

Small nitpicking: pretty sure "knockdowns" and "launches for combo" are mutually exclusive things (assuming generally used terms), but I see what you mean with that teleport description.

Would you prefer "links"?

I mean I worded it that way because I wanted to highlight the difference between the mk9 version which just jailed, wherein this version they get knocked off their feet which I think is significant.

 

[Barrogh]

Would you prefer "links"?

I mean I worded it that way because I wanted to highlight the difference between the mk9 version which just jailed, wherein this version they get knocked off their feet which I think is significant.

Yeah, I know what you mean. I just think that "knockdown" usually means (as long as we are talking about properties of a single move) that it sends opponent on the ground immediately, like Sub's 22[2] in MK9. At least in MK, where things like mid-air hitstun recovery and the like don't exist.

Lifting opponent into the air, as opposed to leaving him on the ground in hitstun, is usually referred to as "launch".

As I've said though, it's clear what you mean in OP, so whatever

 

[THTB]

This is the first real zoner we have been shown and he looks pretty strong. This is what I have noticed so far:

He has an IAP which will most likley be the staple of his zoning HOWEVER it will not push him backwards it is more like Kang's IAP. Couple this with his TK Push and he seems he will be VERY tough to get in on.

2. I did not see any armor, which might be a big problem for him.

3. His movement speed is terrible.

I don't think armor is going to be a major issue in MKX, considering invincible backdashes exist.

 

[Plop]

Anyone else pissed about him getting his face out?

He looks like a whore

In all seriousness though, Ermac is a man of mystery. It's what's so appealing about him. He should never have his face visible in my opinion

 

[Barrogh]

He has an IAP which will most likley be the staple of his zoning HOWEVER it will not push him backwards it is more like Kang's IAP. Couple this with his TK Push and he seems he will be VERY tough to get in on.

Don't his projectiles consume soul charges?

 

[Sami]

Out of the characters revealed so far this is the one I'll be trying out on day 1 as from the videos this looks like everything I wanted Raven to be (not saying she's bad, just that she didn't quite suit my playstyle). Of course, that might change if/when Mileena is revealed...

By the way give me some idea for a catchy thread title I thought of this in like 4 seconds.

I would have thought the obvious one was "Do you even lift? Ermac General Discussion"

 

[insignis]

@Shark Tank Ermac's teleport has different properties wether it's done on the ground or airbone. From the ground Ermac punches and it seems he's unable to d1 after (player on the stream failed it each time), EX-version does multiple pew-pew and launches high. From airbone he kicks and able to d1 after, EX-version adds only one hit after the hit and doesn't launch that high.

Also they said on a stream (around 24:25) that ex-version of tele-push will drain meter (you can see it at 44:04).

 

[ShArp]

This fucking wizard might become one of my favourites and main chars. Looks dope as fuck.

 

[Fractured_Shadow]

Don't his projectiles consume soul charges?

I was under the impression he could continue to do them it just wouldnt bind the opponent uppon hit.

Basically what I see is he has an IA combo starter lol

 

[zaf]

I was under the impression he could continue to do them it just wouldnt bind the opponent uppon hit.

Basically what I see is he has an IA combo starter lol

Yea looks like you can keep using them.
The stun only happens when there are 3 souls

 

[Fractured_Shadow]

After rewatching the stream I have come to the conclusion WOWOUT is going to be a MAJOR tool. He can essentially bait and wiff punish everything with WOWOUT~Teleport D1. Pressuring the Master of Souls variation is going to be a nightmare.

@THTB I take back what I said about armor... with invincible backdashes and a move that makes him INVINCIBLE that he can ALSO cancel out of, I dont forsee him having an issue lol.

We might have just seen one of the best spacing characters in the game.... hmmmmm