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So are you. A special kind of different.My cw is different.
So are you. A special kind of different.My cw is different.
thanks for your words, the problem is my English, and not as TYM works, so only pictures commented on is the only way I can express myself, what is your twitter accountYou really deserve more recognition for these. Do you have a twitter account or something? I also think you should make a thread with all your NRS related photoshops. Good stuff man.
Play me in a few? Say 8pm?Do front page editors get to regulate or are you a mod again? Not being a dick (for the most part). Genuinely wondering.
If only you claiming to be right made it so. That's not the case though. Flash is a definite hard matchup for Bane, something Flash doesn't even have. The only Flash and Bane tournament players of note within the past half a year (at least) are brothers and training partners and both agree that it's rough for Bane, as does just about everyone else who doesn't have some baseless claim about untested tech they have to be as vague as humanly possible about. The second place Evo finisher can't even do iazb's worth shit and got bodied in tournament by a very basic Bane. Again, I'll take the opinions of the likes of Max and Biohazard over those of someone who literally amounts to nothing more than the Jimmy Hart of the Bane forums. I wish you'd stop pretending YOUR opinion holds any weight either, homeslice. Have a fantastic day in the lab.One person beating one other person doesn't make for someone not being top 5, especially when there are no other Flashes who play like HoneyBee (meanwhile there is a lot of Banes that play like Max). Saying new tech is irrelevant is on that level of what that I need to honestly pose the question. How do you think MUs change, just they sit down and someone says a new number and that's it? New tech = new breakthroughs = new gameplans. Its how it goes. Memory serving, Honeybee even has a Bane training partner or something to that effect. Sooo... yeah.
I find it funny how you call me out on being only talk, yet what have you done? Likewise, all sides of it say even if it were a problem, it would be a 6-4 at the worst. That's not a body, that's just an MU that's not in our favour.
Flash is one of those MUs where it has a lot of potential to switch between an easy 6-4 and a hard 6-4, and there isn't anything outstanding in that MU that flash has over us (at least not anymore). Zatanna is undeniable, and anyone who fights the one Zatanna player in existence will feel the pain for sure. Zod has been stated by the 2nd place EVO finalist to be a 6-4 at the worst, memory serving. I'll need to find some quotes, but so on and so forth. I wish you'd stop pretending like your opinion has weight. You don't have to address my responses, because my side of things is right regardless of your outlook.
Try to make it a bit earlier since I have to leave at 8:45. Just so that we get a few decent games in.Play me in a few? Say 8pm?
OK. I absolutely agree that Flash is a better character than Bane. I also agree for the most part about the match-up, though I don't play either character so I accept it could be subject to change.If only you claiming to be right made it so. That's not the case though. Flash is a definite hard matchup for Bane, something Flash doesn't even have. The only Flash and Bane tournament players of note within the past half a year (at least) are brothers and training partners and both agree that it's rough for Bane, as does just about everyone else who doesn't have some baseless claim about untested tech they have to be as vague as humanly possible about. The second place Evo finisher can't even do iazb's worth shit and got bodied in tournament by a very basic Bane. Again, I'll take the opinions of the likes of Max and Biohazard over those of someone who literally amounts to nothing more than the Jimmy Hart of the Bane forums. I wish you'd stop pretending YOUR opinion holds any weight either, homeslice. Have a fantastic day in the lab.
Because Ra was willing to actually put his money where his mouth is. If any Bane can give Honeybee a run for his money, be my guest and change my mind about the matchup. I think Bane beats the shit out of Catwoman personally and always have, but I was willing to give Ra Helios the benefit of the doubt until proven otherwise. Somehow I don't see Doombarks proving anything against anyone. So it's apples and oranges. You're acting like I ever tried to say Catwoman didn't get mopped up lol.OK. I absolutely agree that Flash is a better character than Bane. I also agree for the most part about the match-up, though I don't play either character so I accept it could be subject to change.
However, I genuinely wonder why does your above logic not apply to Catwoman and Bane? By that logic, you should accept 16 Bit and Max's take on the match-up, instead of playing hypotheticals and what ifs pertaining to something that Ra Helios may or may not have discovered and other theory fighting. I mean that's literally what you're reproaching Doombawkz for doing.
Max almost beat Honeybee the one time they played in tournament. It was a really close set. Now granted, as I said, I don't think this says a lot about the Bane-Flash match-up for now (though we should keep in mind that the game is being fleshed out, at least by those still willing to invest time in it, and match-ups are subject to change), but he certainly gave Honeybee a run for his money. I don't think individual sets are that telling. Yeah, I respect Ra's willingness to put his money where his mouth is. But just because he's willing to play Max in a Ft10 ONLINE does not mean we should attribute to that nearly as much importance as two guys playing the match-up offline a thousand times. What I mean is, until proven otherwise, we go by facts, or at least, what we think are facts.Because Ra was willing to actually put his money where his mouth is. If any Bane can give Honeybee a run for his money, be my guest and change my mind about the matchup. I think Bane beats the shit out of Catwoman personally and always have, but I was willing to give Ra Helios the benefit of the doubt until proven otherwise. Somehow I don't see Doombarks proving anything against anyone. So it's apples and oranges. You're acting like I ever tried to say Catwoman didn't get mopped up lol.
Max almost beat Honeybee the one time they played in tournament. It was a really close set. Now granted, as I said, I don't think this says a lot about the Bane-Flash match-up for now (though we should keep in mind that the game is being fleshed out, at least by those still willing to invest time in it, and match-ups are subject to change), but he certainly gave Honeybee a run for his money. I don't think individual sets are that telling. Yeah, I respect Ra's willingness to put his money where his mouth is. But just because he's willing to play Max in a Ft10 ONLINE does not mean we should attribute that nearly as much importance as two guys playing the match-up offline at thousand times. What I mean is, until proven otherwise, we go by facts, or at least, what we think are facts.
Other than the obligatory like-bait by posting any meme/pic/gif what exactly about saying Bane beats Catwoman bad based on extensive offline sets between two of the top representatives of each character amounts to "not knowing shit"? Please enlighten me.
Other than the obligatory like-bait by posting any meme/pic/gif what exactly about saying Bane beats Catwoman bad based on extensive offline sets between two of the top representatives of each character amounts to "not knowing shit"? Please enlighten me.
PS: This is the revolution era. You're not supposed to post mean pics
I agree, which is why we should A) base arguments on our current knowledge of the game but B) accept that said knowledge might change as more discoveries are made. Otherwise, you can literally answer every argument ever with "the game isn't fully fleshed out so we don't know shit."
I'd rather not get into a pointless argument of characters I do not play plus your always right and i agree bane beats Catwoman.
Ps: that meme wasn't targeted to you, But
to us all in the sense that, injustice isn't fully developed and we'll never know everything about it
K A B A L looses no match@m2dave
Do the friends of the interenet have a MU chart for MK9? Also do they have any characters S+ in MK9? Would Kenshi and Kabal both be considered S+? Is a game allowed to have 2 S+ characters in it?
I would argue that there can only be 1 S+ character in any fighting game. Well maybe not. I guess if 2 characters 8-2'd the whole cast and then were 5-5 against each other then I guess I could allow 2 S+ characters.
OMG RAGNAROK IS BACK. I wish Pig were here to celebrate with meK A B A L looses no match
We agree! See being positive feels goodI agree, which is why we should A) based arguments on our current knowledge of the game but B) accept that said knowledge might know as more discoveries are made. Otherwise, you can literally answer every argument ever with "the game isn't fully fleshed out so we don't know shit."
Two S+ characters has happened before in games, Sentinel/Storm in MVC2, Iori/Daimon in KOF 98 ETC@m2dave
Do the friends of the interenet have a MU chart for MK9? Also do they have any characters S+ in MK9? Would Kenshi and Kabal both be considered S+? Is a game allowed to have 2 S+ characters in it?
I would argue that there can only be 1 S+ character in any fighting game. Well maybe not. I guess if 2 characters 8-2'd the whole cast and then were 5-5 against each other then I guess I could allow 2 S+ characters.
Coolwhip, cherish this moment, for it is rare. We seem to be in agreement. My only issue with the Ra Helios fiasco was the idea of dismissing someone almost entirely based off who they are compared to who someone else is. I'd take Bit's word on Catwoman, Max's on Bane, and both of them on that particular matchup before anyone else's at all, for obvious reasons, but if someone else thinks they have something that might make a difference and is willing to play in the only capacity he can to at least try to even somewhat back it up, I respect that and would like to see what they can bring to the table. That's all. If someone can prove Bane doesn't get bopped by the Flash I would absolutely love it, trust me.Max almost beat Honeybee the one time they played in tournament. It was a really close set. Now granted, as I said, I don't think this says a lot about the Bane-Flash match-up for now (though we should keep in mind that the game is being fleshed out, at least by those still willing to invest time in it, and match-ups are subject to change), but he certainly gave Honeybee a run for his money. I don't think individual sets are that telling. Yeah, I respect Ra's willingness to put his money where his mouth is. But just because he's willing to play Max in a Ft10 ONLINE does not mean we should attribute that nearly as much importance as two guys playing the match-up offline at thousand times. What I mean is, until proven otherwise, we go by facts, or at least, what we think are facts.
I agree move Nightwing to C tier.Catwoman being C-Tier is a HUGE bill. Let's compare her with another character in her tier shall we?
Catwoman:
Pros - Good meterless damage that leads to even more with meter, good air-to-airs, great damage if a BGB is present, hit-confirmable 50/50s into a HKD which leads to good oki, good corner game, great unclashable damage, an evade, fullscreen anti-zoning tool, very small in size and a great B3.
Cons - Below average wakeup game, slow walk-speed, MUST get in (easier said than done), and her MB Catdash armor doesn't activate immediately.
Shazam:
Pros - Good damage, good oki, good trait, hard to oki, good D2.
Cons - Easily punishable and whiffing B2 results in an unsafe and lacklustre neutral game, requires meter for good damage, command grabs can be punished on whiff, crappy projectile.
Now if you think that Catwoman is in the same tier as Earth's Mightiest Mortal then I'm afraid that you've been hypnotised by the illusive Skype Illuminati. She has a similar MU chart to the B-Tier characters in terms of Adv : Even : Disadv ratios.
Also let's not discredit @Ra Helios as a player and just pass off his skill as "just online bruh". Online always favours the aggressor so it's not like it's an uneven playing field. Just because he upplays Catwoman (I mean A-Tier? Really?) and is generally a pretty eccentric guy, doesn't mean that he's not good. If Catwoman is not B-Tier then you may as well make Nightwing C-Tier too because they're just about as good as each other.