I think you're actually kind of agreeing with some of the people in this thread, though. I don't think they meant "shrug it off" as in, "it's ok to bully people"; but rather, it's better to learn to brush things off than to let them bother you and get you to the point whether you either become depressed or build up rage and do something like the guy you mentioned.It's terrifying. So anyone saying shrug it off, it's no big deal, please stop. It's a very big deal, especially to any parent in Washington.... I don't know how to stop bullying and neither does anybody or we wouldn't have so many tragedies in the world.
Hitting bullies doesn't work, ignoring them doesn't always work, and telling victims to suck it up and shrug it off only makes it worse. What we can do, if you find this mess as horrifying as I do, is try to be there for people when others hurt them. Sometimes that's just listening, being a support network and not playing "Mr. Fix-it, here's the solution to a complex social injustice" all the time.... Which we have a lot of on TYM lol
OP I survived HS a million years ago, and you will too! Feel free to pm me anytime if you want talk.
yeah because you know everyone on this website right? sorry just have to call you out on ignorance, you have no idea the kind of shit i've been in living in brooklyn, things i've done, same goes for everyone on this site.
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Thanks for the advice Espio. What you say really makes sense to me and I appreciate your perspective
I mean, like, only if he consents. Otherwise that's rape. Wemfs endorses rape, confirmed.
Lol who makes fun of caucasians?
lol in a joking manner, anyone can. Call him a cracker or something like that. I mean, I guess it's pretty hard to offend a white guy for being white. Just poke fun at his insecurities then, maybe he's got a limp, a squint or a family member that recently passed away. M'kay probably not that last one but ya get the picture, right?
Woah woah woah, please don't tell me your advice is to be racist back to him!?
pick fun at his race in a similar joking mannor
Yes I saw that part and I don't care if it's "in a similar joking mannor" (by the way it's manner), it's racism and it isn't acceptable to just be racist in public like that.pick fun at his race in a similar joking mannor
similar joking mannor
joking mannor
What I'm saying is, in social situations like this where someone is being a douchebag unintentionally, don't spoil the fun and go in a little mood because he hurt your feelings a little or have a stick up your ass - just realise that he's obviously trying to have a little fun but didn't realise that you'd take offence because it's 2014, who really gives a fuck about stereotypes; people need to really move on with this crap it's pathetic. I'm not saying the OP is pathetic or boring or anything like that, I'm talking in gerenal about people, the OP sounds like a cool down to earth guy and that's fine. But if it's so much of a problem that it keeps you awake at night then the obvious solution would be to talk to the guy and say you don't like it. So no, I'm not saying be racist. I'm saying I don't think the guy said anything racist to the OP maliciously with the intent to hurt his feelings; it's more in a joking around kind of way. This is when you return the favour in good spirit. I'm not racist, and I'm not encouraging or endorsing racism. I swear, people generally confuse me with some of their thoughts.
Skimming back over that paragraph I realise that I sound like a total dick. But I am not taking that back because I mean every word.
This isn't an English exam, I couldn't give any fucks if I make spelling or grammar mistakes but if it makes you feel better about yourself to point them out and act like a smartass then please be my guest. Paul. It is people like you who try to be the white knight and politically correct about everything that makes this world such a shitty place. Do you REALLY think this guy decided to go out of his way and think "hmm there's a guy that's a different race, let me make fun of him because I don't like him because of his race" no. Absolutely fucking not. He hugged the OP after it and the truth is some people are douches but they don't do it because they want to be a douche, they probably are just over confident since he wants to impress the girls. That's actually pretty normal nowadays. The remark he made is racist, yeah I guess so, but like I said (the important part anyway) he didn't do it to intentionally offend him, society has came quite a long way in terms of culture, races and, well, everything since the 1960's. If you want to continue talking about this then save it for in real life, there's no way in hell I'm typing multiple of these walls of text.
Of course you'd ignore my post and instead comment on the one unimportant part where I point out the spelling mistake (which is what I happen to do on here if you hadn't noticed) -_-
Also, this part pisses me off because it's blatantly ignorant. But it's ok for me to call you ignorant right since we're friends? I could just give you a hug and that makes the insult ok right?
tldr talk to me irl.Of course you'd ignore my post and instead comment on the one unimportant part where I point out the spelling mistake (which is what I happen to do on here if you hadn't noticed) -_-
How is being politically correct making the world shitty?! It's the obviously offensive terms that are being thrown around as if they're ok to joke about and the two wrongs make a right argument you're putting across that's making the world shitty. You are clearly getting the wrong impression from the OP because this guy is not what you're describing him as.
No I don't think he thought "hmm there's a guy that's a different race, let me make fun of him because I don't like him because of his race", that's a stupid assumption and obviously not what he was thinking, he was thinking "oh look there's someone to pick on in front of these girls to assert my masculinity" which is exactly what he did. He chose to make a racist joke because he's Asian and he thinks it's funny to make fun of him based on stereotypes. He then hugged him so that he wouldn't retort, making it look like the racist joke he just made was ok to the girls because they're 'friends' when in reality they're actually not.
Also, this part pisses me off because it's blatantly ignorant. But it's ok for me to call you ignorant right since we're friends? I could just give you a hug and that makes the insult ok right?
Yes his remark is racist and "I guess so" is a horrible attitude to have towards it. I've said it before and I'll say it again, public racist remarks are not ok by any means, there is no need for it and even as 'a joke' it's not ok. If you say things like that to your friends in private because you know they're ok with it then fine, you can say that since it has nothing to do with anyone else and you're not hurting anyone because you're only making the remark in front of that person, but these guys aren't friends and it isn't being done in private so it's not by any means ok.
You are right though in that society has come far but the lenient attitude some people have towards making racist remarks publicly without consent from the other person/people as if they're ok is one of the reasons we're still not succeeding the way we should be. It's like using the words "n***a" or "f****t" when referring to black people or homosexual people, they're not ok to say publicly and not something that should be shrugged off because 'it's just a joke'. That's why the words are, for example, banned on this site regardless of context.
It's not being a white knight, it's common sense.
But to @BrianTheBEAST I suggest not taking it like it's nothing since it isn't nothing, don't let him hug you and pretend you're friends if you aren't, tell him his remarks are/were racist. That way he can't assert his masculinity the way he wants to and the girls are going to see how stupid he is. Something along those lines, do/say something that doesn't invite aggression from him but at the same time makes you look like the bigger man
