My Personal Joker MU Chart.

[Qwark28]

@FOREVER EL1TE @AK L0rdoftheFLY @Dja_Homies @Qwark28 at anybody that can answer this question.

How can you punish a J3 wingding from half screen at all heights?

max or high height you can gunshot or dash in d1 into something, if its low you can jump over it

 

[Vengeance135]

max or high height you can gunshot or dash in d1 into omething, if its low you can jump over it

Thats the thing I don't like about wingdings a J3. Such an amazing air attack that can be cancelled into a move that covers a decent range and can be delayed forever for a MB.

Joker has no favorable options while this is happening. You flinch and they click Mb and it becomes safe, you try to trade with a jump back IJ3 and thats a good luck and then he can wingding for a combo and since NW always has meter itseems like you have to deal with it. I'm not going to lie, I really want to write out my full thoughts on the MU but tbh I'm way to lazy and most of the NW players have said almost everything I wanted to say, just differently so Qwark my dude we will Just have to agree to disagree with you.

@StevoSuprem0 Delaying Jokers b/f3 isn't really a good idea. On legit reaction you can break the armor and cancel into a special because his b/f3s are terribly slow lol but you are right about that still being an option bro. Good stuff

 

[BillStickers]

@FOREVER EL1TE @AK L0rdoftheFLY @Dja_Homies @Qwark28 at anybody that can answer this question.

How can you punish a J3 wingding from half screen at all heights?

d2 delayed crowbar and d2~mb low canister will actually hit lol. If you have time to backdash the j3 then wingdings will never come out and you can trip guard with b1 or crowbar. On read you can either dash underneath or jump-back 3.

 

[AK L0rdoftheFLY]

@FOREVER EL1TE @AK L0rdoftheFLY @Dja_Homies @Qwark28 at anybody that can answer this question.

How can you punish a J3 wingding from half screen at all heights?

What do you mean?

Edit NVM

 

[Vengeance135]

What do you mean?

Well Qwark was saying you can punish wingdings and I just don't see how at that range. -30 or whatever it is at a certain range could still be considered safe against Joker. NW has good options in escrima when Joker isn't close. That's all I'm saying lol

 

[FOREVER EL1TE]

@FOREVER EL1TE @AK L0rdoftheFLY @Dja_Homies @Qwark28 at anybody that can answer this question.

How can you punish a J3 wingding from half screen at all heights?

Your only chance is a gunshot. Or possibly super. If he does it up close then use jump normals

 

[Dja_Homies]

d2 delayed crowbar and d2~mb low canister will actually hit lol. If you have time to backdash the j3 then wingdings will never come out and you can trip guard with b1 or crowbar. On read you can either dash underneath or jump-back 3.

Nightwing can use wing dings even if he whiffs the j3.(I get alot of people salty with it lol) It's retarded but awesome. It sucks Harley can't do it.

 

[BillStickers]

Nightwing can use wing dings even if he whiffs the j3.(I get alot of people salty with it lol) It's retarded but awesome. It sucks Harley can't do it.

Really? What's the timing on it? I can't get it to work

Edit: oh wait nvm figured it out. that's some bullshit right there lol.

 

[StevoSuprem0]

@StevoSuprem0 Delaying Jokers b/f3 isn't really a good idea. On legit reaction you can break the armor and cancel into a special because his b/f3s are terribly slow lol but you are right about that still being an option bro. Good stuff

While it is slow, in most matchups in that situation, it won't matter much. TBH, though, that's not something I would do anyway. I'd probably just try to catch a backdash on read with a j3 or follow them with a forward dash and keep the pressure on. I was just proposing something that you could do if you have really good reactions to cover most options.