Injustice has only 6 months left to be relevant. What do you plan to accomplish before April 2015?

[EMPR_MURK]

Prove that NW legitimately beats aquaman 6-4.

Prove im the best NW in tournament and not just casually.

Be the first NW player to get top 8 with ONLY NW.

Beat forever elite and lordofthefly in the NW/DAMIAN gauntlet and take their money so they can finally realize that they can't compare to my dick.

Expose forever kings free NW to the world.

Convince pig of the hut that zod/nw could be an arguable 6-4 vs 7-3.

Get ra helios to a major lastly

 

[GGA Max]

Prove that NW legitimately beats aquaman 6-4.

Prove im the best NW in tournament and not just casually.

Be the first NW player to get top 8 with ONLY NW.

Beat forever elite and lordofthefly in the NW/DAMIAN gauntlet and take their money so they can finally realize that they can't compare to my dick.

Expose forever kings free NW to the world.

Convince pig of the hut that zod/nw could be an arguable 6-4 vs 7-3.

Get ra helios to a major lastly

you going to kit?

 

[EMPR_MURK]

you going to kit?

Yea

 

[YOMI MITYEAP]

@CrimsonShadow mk9 has issues, but all fighting games do. I am pretty sure u are aware of marvel and the balance problems in that game, da glitches, da infinites, unblockables, and etc. yet they are one thing our community isn't much overall.... loyal. When I see a community like smash getting like 1k at evo and bringing their game back to life, that is quite an effort and I respect that. I understand the netcode thing, but fighting games in general have pretty bad online. I hate how we can't just support our games, have fun, and bring the hype. Threads like this should never have to be made, but until our community decides to stay loyal to our games, threads like these will keep showing up #YEEAAAPPP

 

[GGA Max]

Yea

Good shit man, I might go, we can run the Bane-nw MU, one of the NW's said NW beats bane, which I don't believe right now. Well actually, no one believes it

 

[Amplified$hotz]

Prove that NW legitimately beats aquaman 6-4.

Prove im the best NW in tournament and not just casually.

Be the first NW player to get top 8 with ONLY NW.

Beat forever elite and lordofthefly in the NW/DAMIAN gauntlet and take their money so they can finally realize that they can't compare to my dick.

Expose forever kings free NW to the world.

Convince pig of the hut that zod/nw could be an arguable 6-4 vs 7-3.

Get ra helios to a major lastly

I hope you do really well
You're one of the few NW players who have stuck with him for a long time.

 

[EMPR_MURK]

Good shit man, I might go, we can run the Bane-nw MU, one of the NW's said NW beats bane, which I don't believe right now. Well actually, no one believes it

Yea that must be done and streamed

 

[CrimsonShadow]

@CrimsonShadow mk9 has issues, but all fighting games do. I am pretty sure u are aware of marvel and the balance problems in that game, da glitches, da infinites, unblockables, and etc. yet they are one thing our community isn't much overall.... loyal.

People like Marvel because it's broken. It goes with the zany, cartoony million-things-going-on-at-once style of the game. People don't like Street Fighter for that reason though, and that's part of why Street Fighter x Tekken died. Even within the Capcom universe, people would not accept for SF4 to contain the amount and severity of glitches that Marvel has. They're already campaigning to fix some of the little glitches in Ultra.

Smash Bros also banned a lot of the nonsense to keep it from ruining their game. They don't play "anything goes" -- they stick to their ruleset. Also, Smash has a much bigger fanbase and isn't dependent on the rest of the FGC to play their game for numbers. So this is also not a good comparison, because they had the courage to ban nonsense and not just 'let it rock'.

Read: http://www.ssbwiki.com/Tournament_legal_(SSBM)

Our games don't play by the rules of marvel, so it's a bad comparison and we need to stop making it.

 

[Dizzy]

MK9 still had some decent tournaments for a few months after injustice came out. If there is still diehard injustjce fans, tournaments will be ok for a bit. Who knows if there will be any left that actually go to tournaments though, thats up to the injustice players

 

[YOMI MITYEAP]

People like Marvel because it's broken. It goes with the zany, cartoony million-things-going-on-at-once style of the game. People don't like Street Fighter for that reason though, and that's part of why Street Fighter x Tekken died. Even within the Capcom universe, people would not accept for SF4 to contain the amount and severity of glitches that Marvel has. They're already campaigning to fix some of the little glitches in Ultra.

Smash Bros also banned a lot of the nonsense to keep it from ruining their game. They don't play "anything goes" -- they stick to their ruleset. Also, Smash has a much bigger fanbase and isn't dependent on the rest of the FGC to play their game for numbers.

Our games don't play by the rules of marvel, so it's a bad comparison and we need to stop making it.

That isn't the point tho, how do we plan to keep our games going strong if we just drop them off after 2 years? and we do have rules or we would see ppl using the game freezing glitches or other things that are in the game. A game being "good" or "balanced" is all perception. We need to step up and just play our games, nothing more than that.

 

[CrimsonShadow]

That isn't the point tho, how do we plan to keep our games going strong if we just drop them off after 2 years? and we do have rules or we would see ppl using the game freezing glitches or other things that are in the game. A game being "good" or "balanced" is all perception. We need to step up and just play our games, nothing more than that.

People will support games they feel compelled to support. You can't force them to support something they're fed up with.

I have no doubt that if MK9 had received the kind of ongoing support that SF4 has, more people would be playing it today. But not everyone fancies losing to 95% inescapable resets, Sonya armor or Spirit Charge. As much as people complain about Batgirl, at least she gives you a 50/50 chance to get out. And yet I still don't think people would choose to be vortexed for 3 more years

 

[The PantyChrist]

To get into competitive solitaire.
With Jokers in the deck.

 

[YOMI MITYEAP]

People will support games they feel compelled to support. You can't force them to support something they're fed up with.

I have no doubt that if MK9 had received the kind of ongoing support that SF4 has, more people would be playing it today. But not everyone fancies losing to 95% inescapable resets, Sonya armor or Spirit Charge. As much as people complain about Batgirl, at least she gives you a 50/50 chance to get out. And yet I still don't think people would choose to be vortexed for 3 more years

Trust me, there is worse than what mk9 had lol. But hey, I guess MKX will just have the same fate, guess I will enjoy its like 2 yrs then get rdy for the next game...... smh. All fighting games have balance issues, this is known by all. If ppl are going to stop just bcuz of that, then I guess our games can stay exactly how they are entrants wise.

 

[CrimsonShadow]

Trust me, there is worse than what mk9 had lol. But hey, I guess MKX will just have the same fate, guess I will enjoy its like 2 yrs then get rdy for the next game...... smh. All fighting games have balance issues, this is known by all. If ppl are going to stop just bcuz of that, then I guess our games can stay exactly how they are entrants wise.

MKX doesn't have to suffer the same fate, but it needs a few things:

• 1) Commitment to balance. Maybe even moreso this time, due to the Variation system. It would help if that committment lasts longer than a year. Say 1.5-2 years, is probably plenty of time to work out the kinks and allow most tech to come to light.
• 2) Better netplay -- once people have spent a lot of their money, and aren't able to travel as frequently, being able to play solid sets against each other online and train is a big help towards keeping a community engaged. Likewise with online tournaments, challenges, etc to build hype in between events.
• 3) Committment to bug-squashing -- Injustice is doing a better job in this regard. But things like combo followups coming out the wrong way under interactibles, and the control issues (like getting db inputs when standing up from crouch) do annoy people who are on the fence.
• 4) Commitment to enjoyable long-term gameplay -- As much as vortexes and giant resets are hype early on, they also seem to dampen enthusiasm in the long run. People want to feel like they are playing the game; not watching helplessly as they succumb to something they can't control. Likewise with characters which do not have tools to counteract oppressive zoning. At some point, if people stop having fun, they won't continue to play for years just to slave away under opressive conditions. So strong/varied neutral game, less 1-dimensional tools leading to less 1-dimensional matchups.

I have no doubt that if the game is strong in these areas, it will be continued to be played for some time to come. Both MK9 and Injustice have been a blast at the core, and if MKX can move past some of the things that hold them back, we could see the game going strong into 2017 and beyond. But only time will tell.

NRS, we are rooting for you

 

[Flagg]

MKX doesn't have to suffer the same fate, but it needs a few things:

• 1) Commitment to balance. Maybe even moreso this time, due to the Variation system. It would help if that committment lasts longer than a year. Say 1.5-2 years, is probably plenty of time to work out the kinks and allow most tech to come to light.
• 2) Better netplay -- once people have spent a lot of their money, and aren't able to travel as frequently, being able to play solid sets against each other online and train is a big help towards keeping a community engaged. Likewise with online tournaments, challenges, etc to build hype in between events.
• 3) Committment to bug-squashing -- Injustice is doing a better job in this regard. But things like combo followups coming out the wrong way under interactibles, and the control issues (like getting db inputs when standing up from crouch) do annoy people who are on the fence.
• 4) Commitment to enjoyable long-term gameplay -- As much as vortexes and giant resets are hype early on, they also seem to dampen enthusiasm in the long run. People want to feel like they are playing the game; not watching helplessly as they succumb to something they can't control. Likewise with characters which do not have tools to counteract oppressive zoning. At some point, if people stop having fun, they won't continue to play for years just to slave away under opressive conditions. So strong/varied neutral game, less 1-dimensional tools leading to less 1-dimensional matchups.

I have no doubt that if the game is strong in these areas, it will be continued to be played for some time to come. Both MK9 and Injustice have been a blast at the core, and if MKX can move past some of the things that hold them back, we could see the game going strong into 2017 and beyond. But only time will tell.

NRS, we are rooting for you

Okay so do you think Injustice has anywhere near the level of "issues" MK 9 had, because from the looks of this thread, none of that matters.

This thread is basically saying "The NRS community is incapable of playing more than one game at a high level".

 

[Billy Dha Kid]

If NRS patched grab immune it would be an enjoyable experience

 

[YOMI MITYEAP]

Okay so do you think Injustice has anywhere near the level of "issues" MK 9 had, because from the looks of this thread, none of that matters.

This thread is basically saying "The NRS community is incapable of playing more than one game at a high level".

that is the main point I am making, why can't we just support our games like the capcom heads do? we could have fun, increase our influence tournament wise by having more than one nrs game being played, and etc. MKX is going to have things that will make ppl complain (as all fighting games do). If the game is able to be played at tournaments, why not just give it support and play it? letting our games go bye bye after 2 yrs is counter productive

 

[YOMI MITYEAP]

MKX doesn't have to suffer the same fate, but it needs a few things:

• 1) Commitment to balance. Maybe even moreso this time, due to the Variation system. It would help if that committment lasts longer than a year. Say 1.5-2 years, is probably plenty of time to work out the kinks and allow most tech to come to light.
• 2) Better netplay -- once people have spent a lot of their money, and aren't able to travel as frequently, being able to play solid sets against each other online and train is a big help towards keeping a community engaged. Likewise with online tournaments, challenges, etc to build hype in between events.
• 3) Committment to bug-squashing -- Injustice is doing a better job in this regard. But things like combo followups coming out the wrong way under interactibles, and the control issues (like getting db inputs when standing up from crouch) do annoy people who are on the fence.
• 4) Commitment to enjoyable long-term gameplay -- As much as vortexes and giant resets are hype early on, they also seem to dampen enthusiasm in the long run. People want to feel like they are playing the game; not watching helplessly as they succumb to something they can't control. Likewise with characters which do not have tools to counteract oppressive zoning. At some point, if people stop having fun, they won't continue to play for years just to slave away under opressive conditions. So strong/varied neutral game, less 1-dimensional tools leading to less 1-dimensional matchups.

I have no doubt that if the game is strong in these areas, it will be continued to be played for some time to come. Both MK9 and Injustice have been a blast at the core, and if MKX can move past some of the things that hold them back, we could see the game going strong into 2017 and beyond. But only time will tell.

NRS, we are rooting for you

the only point I agree with is netplay, other than that everything else is what it is because other games have issues too, yet it is all about support and loyality. Everything else about "balance" and etc. is subjective because no fighting game can be "balanced" anyways.

 

[Goldi]

Go 2-2 at a local
Learn Frost's vortex or at least drop a few less* combos
Play with more people (I worry I'm a waste of time to the really competive peeps and they'll get angry with me for it lol)
Annoy Dink

That's about it. I've got more than 6 months though, I really like the community and will continue to support it after mkx with Yolo slides and delicious cupcakes.

*actually indicates all

 

[Flagg]

that is the main point I am making, why can't we just support our games like the capcom heads do? we could have fun, increase our influence tournament wise by having more than one nrs game being played, and etc. MKX is going to have things that will make ppl complain (as all fighting games do). If the game is able to be played at tournaments, why not just give it support and play it? letting our games go bye bye after 2 yrs is counter productive

I agree. Yes its all well and good Crimson saying SF IV with it's yearly updates help and yeah, it would help any fighting game out there. But MK 9 isn't getting any more updates. Nor is Injustice and that should not be a reason to drop it.

I can't believe people's attention spans are that short. Do people really think everything can be found within 2 years of a fighting game?

EDIT: The longer people play a game, the more the tier lists change. Isn't T.Hawk top tier in SSF II Turbo now after a decade?

 

[YOMI MITYEAP]

I agree. Yes its all well and good Crimson saying SF IV with it's yearly updates help and yeah, it would help any fighting game out there. But MK 9 isn't getting any more updates. Nor is Injustice and that should not be a reason to drop it.

I can't believe people's attention spans are that short. Do people really think everything can be found within 2 years of a fighting game?

EDIT: The longer people play a game, the more the tier lists change. Isn't T.Hawk top tier in SSF II Turbo now after a decade?

t hawk is, and I really want mkx to go the long run. A game's numbers need to increase if it is going to stay around. We always wind up going down, which just doesn't work. I would love the yearly patches and stuff too, but that isn't the case for us. We should play the games we love and go on from there. I understand if ppl have school/work, that is a completely fine and a valid reason if u can't play a game as much, but because a game isn't "balanced" or etc doesn't mean it should be dropped. I am actually happy to see ppl still entering mk9/ the mk9 side tourny at evo was a huge success.

 

[RM NoBrows]

I want to place top 16 in.my next major.

If that doesn't happen, then I just want to beat an AM player while I'm playing grundy.

 

[Kyu]

Go to GBS more often
Beat Max in a hype Bane mirror Grand Finals on stream
Travel to a major and murder everyone by running them over with the bane train
Not use my fraud martian anymore
Harvest all possible 16 Bit salt
Not fail highschool
Get a hitbox for fucks sake (anyone know if they'll be made for mkx?)
Go to homecoming and smash like a mfer.

Yeah that's about it.

 

[Barrogh]

Maybe start actually playing the game, I dunno. Although I may save that effort for MKX where I'll face the same exact problems

 

[AK Stormthegates]

Top 8 KIT or FR. Not shit my pants when I play @FOREVER KING in tournament.