Ugh I hate this argument, and by the way quoting someone famous doesn't make them right. The "watching kids stuff is fine because if you're not watching them you're trying to be grown up and that makes you the child" argument is hypocritical and an excuse in my opinion. If you're still watching kids movies and trying to pass them off as anything else you're lying to yourself. I don't watch kids movies not because I'm trying to be an adult but because kids movies are directed at kids. I only watched Frozen because the rest of my family wanted to watch it, and I found it annoying- because it's a kids movie, and the elements in it that made it a kids movie annoyed me. But of course I'm not saying I'm right or you're wrong I'm just saying it's stupid to hastily judge someone for not watching kids movies because apparently they're trying to be adult and that's not growing up.
But to clarify, there's a difference between "Kid's film = made for kids" and "Kid's film = easily watchable for kids". Frozen is a great film. Its reputation as a "kid's film" is not meant to mean anything more than "this film is easily digestable for kids". It doesn't mean it's one of those films that goes out of its way to be a kid's film only so it can eschew the responsibility of actually having to be good- on the assumption its audience has zero taste due to their age.
To quote C.S. Lewis:
“Critics who treat 'adult' as a term of approval, instead of as a merely descriptive term, cannot be adult themselves. To be concerned about being grown up, to admire the grown up because it is grown up, to blush at the suspicion of being childish; these things are the marks of childhood and adolescence. And in childhood and adolescence they are, in moderation, healthy symptoms. Young things ought to want to grow. But to carry on into middle life or even into early manhood this concern about being adult is a mark of really arrested development. When I was ten, I read fairy tales in secret and would have been ashamed if I had been found doing so. Now that I am fifty I read them openly. When I became a man I put away childish things, including the fear of childishness and the desire to be very grown up.”
And by the way, quoting someone famous doesn't mean I'm saying "they're right because they're famous" as opposed to "They're right because their argument is logically sound".
you must not have read the quote in its entirety, because nowhere does it say kid's movies aren't kids movies. It only says that being a kid's movie doesn't inherently determine it's value, hence the quote says "as a term of approval instead of merely a descriptive term". The gist is that "kid's movie" describes a movie that is fit for kids to watch, NOT a movie that is only made for kids to watch and has no value to anyone else.
Here's the kicker, if you don't watch it because it's directed at kids, you can apply this to just about 50% of PG-13 movies out there. Many PG-13 movies today are only that way because they started out as R-rated movies that were bullied into a PG-13 rating because family movies make more money *cough* Expendables 3 *cough*. Once again, go back to the quote, kids are obsessed with adult things. Expendables 3 is more of a "kid's movie" because during it's creation it was more concerned with targeting kids who wanted to see a badass aciton film but weren't old enough to buy tickets to a rated R movie, because they would boost sales. Thus they forciably shafted what should have been an R-rated movie into heavily blurred, shaky-cam PG-13 action scenes
Ok last part where you're wrong. You assume I'm saying people who don't watch kids movies are trying to be an adult and that's not growing up. It says people who avoid kid stuff because they think that makes them an adult are childish. It targets the INTENTION, not the ACTION. If you avoid kids stuff just because you don't like it- the quote has nothing to do with you.
I'm going to spoil How to Train Your Dragon 2, so warning for the second paragraph. It's crazy to see animation now as compared to my childhood. Like my last claymation flick was the Corpse Bride, so since then they've been able to add motion to hair and clothing and smoke effects while keeping that same artstyle. The Book of Life comes out on my birthday. I'm interested to see it because I love marionette art and the Mexican Day of the Dead motif looks great.
"Hey Dad, can we go see The Boxtrolls?"I will always continue to watch movies made for kids. I don't fucking care. I don't have to have a reason other than that. If I enjoy them, so what?
I don't even have to use my three children as an excuse why I watch them. I watch the movies without them around and it pisses them off.
But how is his argument "logically sound"? He's saying that avoiding things aimed at children is childish, isn't that contradictory?
No I read the whole thing. I think I may have worded it wrong though. I meant if you're still watching kids movies and trying to pass it off (the whole watching kids movies) as anything else you're lying to yourself. I'm not saying it being a kids movie decreases its value, I said no such thing, and that part of the quote has no relevance to your argument because it's talking about the term adult not the value of kids movies. A kids movie describes a movie that has certain elements aimed at kids and are included for the purpose of the kids' enjoyment.
PG-13 movies don't tend to have cheesy songs and all that crap though, so no you don't necessarily have to apply it to 50% of PG-13 movies. I've never seen Expendables 3 so I can't comment on any of your arguments there...
I'm not saying you're saying that, but you're using a quote that says that:
YOOOOO. WHAT IS WRONG WITH YOU?
No, because he says it's healthy in moderation.
See this is my point, why does moving on from what we did as children not make us "genuine adults"? Surely a genuine adult is mature enough to move on?
In you're anger, you've become the very thing you hate. "This is the way the world endsWhat...when....wh...what..........happened?
This is an extremely shallow outlook.
Did you misspell your on purpose?
But that's just your opinion bruh.
lol, this was going to be my post, almost word for word lol.I will always continue to watch movies made for kids. I don't fucking care. I don't have to have a reason other than that. If I enjoy them, so what?
I don't even have to use my three children as an excuse why I watch them. I watch the movies without them around and it pisses them off.
Nothing beats walking around yelling out random quotes from my favorite "kids'" movies.