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Which day of the week would you like to meet up for casuals at Foonzo?


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CanadianBaconX

Let's see how long this lasts...
So I was planning to be there this Sunday... Should I still show up?
If you can make it then sure, next week and the week after I'm thinking just training secession. So there will be no worries about start or end time, just show up and play some games.
 
Call to vote starting Season 2 on October 12 or 19. This gives a few weeks to level up and still allow us to finish the 10th ranbat a week or two before the end of the year.

I'm in favor of starting S2 on Oct 19 through Dec 21. This gives 2 level up sessions to focus on improving the MU's everyone has the most difficult with and go into S2 with a strong game plan.

@NetherRealmSnake I'll coach you on Reptile.
thx a lot its really appreciated
 

Ecodus

I ain't got time to bleed.
Hey guys, going to miss today, have a going away dinner for a friend. I'll be there for next weekend practice/casual day.

@Darkbloom looks like the Helios vs Max thing isn't happening but we needs to do some long sets next time.

Also, I took December 1st off work, the reason being is CECC2 (Canadian East Coast Championships) is happening in Toronto that weekend. I think it would be a great opportunity for our scene to branch out and make some noise. @KRYS9984 @Chuckychuck @CanadianBaconX @hard_goodbye @Darkbloom @xQUANTUMx

I've already confirmed I am going, and while I'm there I will be sporting the MTL_Ecodus tag. Who's coming with me @MTL
 

Jer

I'm a literal Sloth
Not coming today, girlfriend is going home after being here for 3 months =/ Won't be there next Sunday either on account of it being Thanksgiving, but after that I'm in there.
 

KRYS9984

Apprentice
Guys,

Can't make it today; currently working on a home project.

Next weekend is also difficult due to Thanksgiving but I'm down to resume on October 19th.

@CanadianBaconX check you inbox.
 

CanadianBaconX

Let's see how long this lasts...
@Jer but... but... Who will I smash :(

@KRYS9984 No problemo man, take the time you need. Also the website alerts me when I have a PM you know, you don't need to do it too ;)

@Ecodus Do they have a page or something I can look up their information so I can plan... Unless something comes up, my mediocre wowo is coming through :D
 

Chuckychuck

Warrior
Hey guys, going to miss today, have a going away dinner for a friend. I'll be there for next weekend practice/casual day.

@Darkbloom looks like the Helios vs Max thing isn't happening but we needs to do some long sets next time.

Also, I took December 1st off work, the reason being is CECC2 (Canadian East Coast Championships) is happening in Toronto that weekend. I think it would be a great opportunity for our scene to branch out and make some noise. @KRYS9984 @Chuckychuck @CanadianBaconX @hard_goodbye @Darkbloom @xQUANTUMx

I've already confirmed I am going, and while I'm there I will be sporting the MTL_Ecodus tag. Who's coming with me @MTL
I have an exame the following day which is my deferred exam from this summer due to my arm accident so I can't go. #OneArmedBandit.

Not coming today, girlfriend is going home after being here for 3 months =/ Won't be there next Sunday either on account of it being Thanksgiving, but after that I'm in there.
Next week end is TFC and thanks giving so I doubt many will go. The week end after that, Oct 19th, is a good time to start Season 2 which brings me to my next point.
 

Chuckychuck

Warrior
Now that we have an active scene of around 20 mixed between MK9 and Injustice I think it's time we start discussing structure. What I mean by this is organizing periods of competitive tournament play and off-season time where we can play lighter and enjoy casual level up play.

In the past running only casual play lead to lack of interest and people slowly dropped off. However, this summer introducing ranbats sparked the competitiveness in all of us and the scene experienced a re-birth and along with the write ups and press from TYM a growth in the player base.

Competition is good but we can't over look casual play, both are important. Showing up week after week to get bodied is hard on the mind as well and sometimes players need some time to focus on a game plan, work a tactic or strategy and come back stronger. This is difficult to do when everyone is going in guns blazing with no downtime in-between to work a game plan and see how it holds up.

Although S1 had a great run of 12 weeks (2 of which are not counted in the S1 ranbats) I find it's a very long stretch of mandatory attendance. Not everyone can make it out every Sunday over a period of 3 months and the penalty is points for the end of Season ranking.

Here's an idea that offers flexibility, encourages casual play and promotes competition for the scene to level up, get better and create some hype as fuck matches. Gathering the full roster every Sunday is hard to do and it was great to see it all come together at the end of S1. The end of S1 turned out well because if there was one tournament to attend it was that one, so everyone showed. This is the kind of setting I'd like to see more frequently than once every 3 months season but not make it so that people feel obliged to go every Sunday or else the scene fails. So here's a possible structure we could follow.

Every month we could run the scene like this:

Week 1: casual level up
Week 2: round robin
Week 3: casual level up
Week 4: double elimination tournament setting
Week 5: on months with a 5th week we can just run casual

The casual weeks are there to go level up and work on your game. The second week is a round robin which is a type of bracket system that is more flexible in nature so you don't "have" to show up at 7pm sharp to participate in the tournament. You run your matches vs all entrants as you get the chance and the points are added up at the end. The 4th week is time to put your game face on because it's the big tournament. The idea here is once a month if there was one week end to attend it would be the last one of the month, or 4th week if the month has 5 weeks.

In a nutshell the casual weeks wouldn't be mandatory and there's no point penalty for leaving early or skipping one of the casual sessions and you know if you want games there's a good chance a bunch of people will be there just maybe not the whole scene. The mid-month round robin offers a more competitve oriented meet where there's a good chance more than the usual head count will be present. The end of month tournament is the end all be all tournament to wrap up the month so just about everyone would hopefully plan for it and attend. We could run seasons by actual seasons summer, fall, winter, spring and add up the points accumulated throughout.

If you have any comments, questions or queries please respond because we've reached the numbers where building the foundation now will allow us to support a potentially much greater scene by the time MKX comes out. Remember everything we're doing now will be with us in MKX and the scene will be fully united by then. From the stream setup to how we are organised as a scene is important for the future of Montreal Mayhem. Now is the time to iron this kind of shit out =)

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xQUANTUMx

Twitter: @xxQUANTUM
I think the more simple we keep things, the better. Simply put, competition and friendly rivalry (gun show vs laser show lol) was what kept me coming back week after week. It kept me hungry. Competition is what brought me and people back. It's what made me level up the most. Casuals should be for before or after or on your own time in the week so you can lab stuff. My $0.02
 

Ecodus

I ain't got time to bleed.
I'm more interested in a weekly ranbat like we had been doing for season 1. I believe that it gives valuable in tournament experience in ft3 sets which is what we will encounter when we start traveling. I hope I'm not the only one of us who is interested in traveling more for IGAU, and MKX when it comes out.

If we really want to level up as players I don't think taking our weekly ranbat tourney and making it a monthly is the solution. What if you can't make it on the one Sunday of the month that we are running the double elim tourney? Then you're going a long time without those valuable tournament nerves. Playing casuals and tournament sets are nothing alike.

If anything my suggestion would be to try to find a day during the week for casual practice, that way we have a day per week some of us can meet up (depending on availabilities) when we can go over the things that we experienced during ranbats. That, along with personal practice (at home in the lab or getting MU Xp from other players online) is the real way we could level up as a scene. Often in games we have guys saying that they don't play or practice throughout the week, and that's the only reason they are getting beat week in and week out.

If we look at other successful scenes out there (GGA, BLTB, THE BREAK) they run weekly tournaments and play also throughout the week (or in some cases they use too before their scene started to die). From what I hear GGA plays 3 times a week, and I know they guys from BLTB meet up for offline practice as well.

That's just my personal opinion on the matter.
 

Chuckychuck

Warrior
I think the more simple we keep things, the better. Simply put, competition and friendly rivalry (gun show vs laser show lol) was what kept me coming back week after week. It kept me hungry. Competition is what brought me and people back. It's what made me level up the most. Casuals should be for before or after or on your own time in the week so you can lab stuff. My $0.02
You're right, simpler is better. It's how S1 was so successful.

I'm more interested in a weekly ranbat like we had been doing for season 1. I believe that it gives valuable in tournament experience in ft3 sets which is what we will encounter when we start traveling. I hope I'm not the only one of us who is interested in traveling more for IGAU, and MKX when it comes out.

If we really want to level up as players I don't think taking our weekly ranbat tourney and making it a monthly is the solution. What if you can't make it on the one Sunday of the month that we are running the double elim tourney? Then you're going a long time without those valuable tournament nerves. Playing casuals and tournament sets are nothing alike.

If anything my suggestion would be to try to find a day during the week for casual practice, that way we have a day per week some of us can meet up (depending on availabilities) when we can go over the things that we experienced during ranbats. That, along with personal practice (at home in the lab or getting MU Xp from other players online) is the real way we could level up as a scene. Often in games we have guys saying that they don't play or practice throughout the week, and that's the only reason they are getting beat week in and week out.

If we look at other successful scenes out there (GGA, BLTB, THE BREAK) they run weekly tournaments and play also throughout the week (or in some cases they use too before their scene started to die). From what I hear GGA plays 3 times a week, and I know they guys from BLTB meet up for offline practice as well.

That's just my personal opinion on the matter.
Good point. The way to get better is to play more casuals not remove and replace ranbat meets with casual play. Weekly casuals are a better solution.

Casual days do nothing for anyone imo, no one tries and that's it. People want something to play for, and rankings does that.
You bring up something here. Last time the scene died because we turned casual. S1 was a success because of the rankings and tournament setting.

Good feedback guys, it's what I was looking for. The feedback for S1 was so positive I was looking for a way to include everyone more into the ranbats. Sometimes people have to leave early or can't make it on time and don't show for this reason and thought reducing it to once a month would be the solution. Turns out so far that isn't the solution because as Ecodus points out if you miss that one golden day you're boned anyway. Also as Quantum said, simpler is better and that's probably the magic behind S1. We just winged it and it worked lol =)

Looking to hear from the rest of the scene. It's good to know where everyone stands on this so we can move forward as a group.
 

xGunShow

Toronto, Canada @GunShowXO
Hey guys, going to miss today, have a going away dinner for a friend. I'll be there for next weekend practice/casual day.

@Darkbloom looks like the Helios vs Max thing isn't happening but we needs to do some long sets next time.

Also, I took December 1st off work, the reason being is CECC2 (Canadian East Coast Championships) is happening in Toronto that weekend. I think it would be a great opportunity for our scene to branch out and make some noise. @KRYS9984 @Chuckychuck @CanadianBaconX @hard_goodbye @Darkbloom @xQUANTUMx

I've already confirmed I am going, and while I'm there I will be sporting the MTL_Ecodus tag. Who's coming with me @MTL
Hell yeah man, we would love for the MTL guys to come down. I know that some of the NY guys wanted to come to Toryuken but were unaware of it. We'll make a thread on CECC2 later down the road. Hopefully you guys can make it!
 

CanadianBaconX

Let's see how long this lasts...
@KRYS9984 sent me a pretty good template with an idea of doing like... Two weeks of ranbats and then take a week off and then do it again. I think that would be the ideal for integrated some kind of break.

At the same time @Ecodus makes a great point that most scenes play casuals together between weeklies. This is something I know I personally do not do since I think literally the only time I play these games is on Sundays with you guys so, planning something more causal in addition to the weekly would be ideal. Sadly there are a lot of people who don't have the time to make it out twice a week.

Some of us live pretty close to one another so maybe meeting up between those groups can be done. I know the closest person I live near is probs @C-Sword and all we'd play would be Mario Kart and Ninja Tourtle Tournament Fighters amirite?

Also @Jer is right, people need a reason to come out each week. I'd make this a cash tournament but our situation doesn't lens ourselves to that.

Anyways going into metro now be there soon.
 

Chuckychuck

Warrior
@KRYS9984 sent me a pretty good template with an idea of doing like... Two weeks of ranbats and then take a week off and then do it again. I think that would be the ideal for integrated some kind of break.

At the same time @Ecodus makes a great point that most scenes play casuals together between weeklies. This is something I know I personally do not do since I think literally the only time I play these games is on Sundays with you guys so, planning something more causal in addition to the weekly would be ideal. Sadly there are a lot of people who don't have the time to make it out twice a week.

Some of us live pretty close to one another so maybe meeting up between those groups can be done. I know the closest person I live near is probs @C-Sword and all we'd play would be Mario Kart and Ninja Tourtle Tournament Fighters amirite?

Also @Jer is right, people need a reason to come out each week. I'd make this a cash tournament but our situation doesn't lens ourselves to that.

Anyways going into metro now be there soon.
Yeah I was just talking to Krys about my ideas on structure before I made my post. We also talked about round robin vs double elimination. What are your thoughts on that?

Round robin offers more matches per person and more flexiblity in running the show since you can run sets as you get the chance. Double elim on the other hand I find provides a more tournament-like experience since there is an official start time and if you are out you are out just like in tournies.

Which bracket system do you guys prefer?
 

rehti

Noob
As a new face, I don't see myself going for casual... round robin is probably the best idea. This way I don't have to ask for a spot on one of the 2 setups. As a new guy, it's quite embarrassing.
 

Jer

I'm a literal Sloth
As a new face, I don't see myself going for casual... round robin is probably the best idea. This way I don't have to ask for a spot on one of the 2 setups. As a new guy, it's quite embarrassing.
You shouldn't be embarrassed to ask for games ever. Just call next and that's that, everyone respects it.
 

Ecodus

I ain't got time to bleed.
Yeah I was just talking to Krys about my ideas on structure before I made my post. We also talked about round robin vs double elimination. What are your thoughts on that?

Round robin offers more matches per person and more flexiblity in running the show since you can run sets as you get the chance. Double elim on the other hand I find provides a more tournament-like experience since there is an official start time and if you are out you are out just like in tournies.

Which bracket system do you guys prefer?
Double Elim, like they do in tourneys. Playing for my tournament life is what I love about competitive gaming.

If we do decide to change up our format from S1, maybe double elim 2 weeks the 1 week round robin?

It's up to you guys. As for weekly casuals, I play at least 2-3 times during the week. I'd much prefer playing with someone then being in lab or dealing with Online Lag.

@CanadianBaconX get in the lab at home man. You too @T.roll
 

Chuckychuck

Warrior
Double Elim, like they do in tourneys. Playing for my tournament life is what I love about competitive gaming.

If we do decide to change up our format from S1, maybe double elim 2 weeks the 1 week round robin?

It's up to you guys. As for weekly casuals, I play at least 2-3 times during the week. I'd much prefer playing with someone then being in lab or dealing with Online Lag.

@CanadianBaconX get in the lab at home man. You too @T.roll
Okay then we need 2 runners for the tournaments, 1 for MK9 and 1 for Igau. It gets messy for Bacon running both games on 1 phone. It will be a LOT smoother with a permanent stream setup since I imagine the brackets can be up in different tabs on the browser. The runners have to call matches and move the tournament along so casuals are done before or after the tournament.

The ideal time appears to be 1900 through 2130 as some people can't make it earlier and some have to leave early. Round robin accomodates timing issues while double elim provides a more tournament-like setting.
 

C-Sword

Warrior
@KRYS9984

Some of us live pretty close to one another so maybe meeting up between those groups can be done. I know the closest person I live near is probs @C-Sword and all we'd play would be Mario Kart and Ninja Tourtle Tournament Fighters amirite?
Leveling up in what exactly? MK9? I don't mind helping the new guys, but as for myself, I'm pretty much done with that game, especially with MKX not being too far away.
 
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