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cHAncEman1292

cHAncEman1292

Noob
Hello! Chance , again, and has I was cultivating glorious urbs I had a thought. Who is...the BEST of the BEST. "What do you mean Chance, there's already a tier list....look here's a link....". No that's not what I'm saying, fighting wise what playing styles are each character best suited to?

Whose is the best...

Anti-Air Kombatant - which character as the tools to completely destroy jumping opponents
Rushdown Kombatant - which character as the best pressure game at close range
Offense Kombatant - which character has the tools to be a threat at any range
MeterFUL Kombatant - which character gains the most out of having meter
Zoning Kombatant - which character has the best projectiles and can effectively ward away close ranged opponents
Defensive Kombatant- which character is best at exploiting mistakes, running the timer and is adept at shaking pressure.
Korner Kombatant- which character excels at placing the oppostion in the corner and has "non-sensical" pressure there.


My Picks?


Anti-Air Kombatant
Kabal
Kano
Kitana


Rushdown Kombatant
Johny Cage
Liu Kang
Sonya

Offense Kombatant
Reptile
Sektor
Skarlet

MeterFUL Kombatant
Quan Chi
Jade
Cyrax


Zoning Kombatant
Sindel
Kabal
Shang Tsung


Defensive Kombatant
Sub Zero
Kenshi
Kano

Korner Kombatant
Raiden
Liu Kang
Sub Zero

Please lettme know what you think as well as give me your thoughts on different "playstyles"!
 
Phantom

Phantom

Kitana Prime aka MK's Rated R Superstar
I nominate Kitana for meterless kombat .

I mean you kinda have to have her there.
 
Zyns

Zyns

Grodd for Injustice 3
I don't see CSZ or Noob. CSZ should be in rushdown and Noob should be in zoning (although is anti-air game is awesome)
I wouldn't necessarily call SZ a zoner, although I wouldn't call him a turtle either
Ermac and Kano seem like zoners rather than turtles.
Doesn't Sheeva thrive on Ex Grabs?
 
cHAncEman1292

cHAncEman1292

Noob
Zyns said:
I don't see CSZ or Noob. CSZ should be in rushdown and Noob should be in zoning (although is anti-air game is awesome)
I wouldn't necessarily call SZ a zoner, although I wouldn't call him a turtle either
Ermac and Kano seem like zoners rather than turtles.
Doesn't Sheeva thrive on Ex Grabs?
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When I mentioned the folks I did for rushdown I was thinking in your face unrelenting pressure. CSZ has a unique rushdown game that focuses on zoning so I wouldn't say he's the BEST OF THE BEST when it comes to rushdown. My criteria for zoning was that they could get crazy amounts of damage with their projectiles or their projectiles could ruin the opposition. I think my choices are sound in that Sindel has crazy spammability and Shang has crazy projectile based combos, Noob just isn't as much of a terror...that's not to say he wouldn't wreck characters bad at zoning. For Turtles I was looking at move sets, getting in on Ermac is a pain if your careless. Kano has spammy knifes and good anti air plus his strings dont do much damage when viewed aside his peers. He gets most of his damage of punishing people and getting them away from him. Sub Zero was viewed on the basis of what he can do to you if he hits you with a projectile but I admit that's a stretch...I do however think he is a good turtle...after all he's responsible for the most timer wins in the game right?
 
NRF CharlieMurphy

NRF CharlieMurphy

Kindergarten Meta
No character in this game turtles. If you turtle you lose... simple as that. I'm sure people have success against others... but in the grand scheme... unless you are attacking to keep people out... you'll lose.

in any case... Sektor is def. a meterFUL. SubZero is def. a meterLESS. Noob is a zoner. Kano is a zoner. Cyber Sub is rushdown. Kung Lao is the first 3 as well as zoning. Mileena is a zoner/meterFULL.
Smoke is unique... he zones until knockdown... then pressure pressure pressure.
Jax is a rushdown type.
 
P

PunisherAlive

Noob
Have you ever seen Shang Tsungs/Sub-Zero's corner pressure? and in my opinion Reptile is in the wrong catagory, he should be in offense.
 
cHAncEman1292

cHAncEman1292

Noob
Perhaps there are "no turtles" I should perhaps change it to "defensive kombatant"

Defensive Kombatant- the best punishers and more adept at keeping the opponent off them.

Mind you this is THE BEST OF THE BEST we could put everyone in the game in every category just because they have some traits to be in the running. That's not the point however, it is to determine THE BEST character(s) to a given playstyle. In my orginal post I'll limit the folks to the Top 3 in each category. I am also going to scrap the METERLESS category because when it comes down to it It seems I am asking you to describe the best character in the game plus who doesn't use meter?
 
rev0lver

rev0lver

Come On Die Young
Anti-air: Kung Lao
Rushdown: Kung Lao
Offense: Kung Lao
Defense: Kung Lao
Meter: Kung Lao
Meterless: Kung Lao
Zoning: ...Noob/Kenshi
Turtle: Kung Lao
 
SwiftTomHanks

SwiftTomHanks

missiles are coming
Kenshi is a monster in the corner. Also Sektor as offensive?! Perhaps zoning, but there are some characters who are more of a pure zoner than Sektor. I'd put him top 3 for most robotic kombatant for sure.
 
Saint

Saint

Mortal
I think you're smoking something, which isn't necessarily bad.

Kung lao if not dominates, is a candidate for all of the above.
 
cHAncEman1292

cHAncEman1292

Noob
Anyone can shout a name...but can you give a reason associated with the name and discount the folks in the list?

Kung Lao has good rush down but...he's not the best. Before I can crucified look at the other canidates. Johny literally is unparalleled at keeping the pressure on close range and his popup kick is every bit as effective as kung's spin on punishing jumpins. Jax as one of the best low strings in the game and is anti-air and dash push are devastating when you bait the opposition. Sonya is THE UNSEEN menace of rushdowns. She has a dive kick that comboable, she has an aerial throw, resets similiar to the Johny nutpunch and can inflict quite a bit of damage. When Kung Lao's get over their low hat mix ups and their spin defense its really hard to see how they measure up in the rush down apartment next to Johny, Jax and Sonya.

OFFENSIVE Kombatant- which combatant has the tools to be devastating at all ranges: good projectiles/ tele...good pokes...good mix-up game.

Sektor more than fills the bill.
 
Saint

Saint

Mortal
cHAncEman1292 said:
Anyone can shout a name...but can you give a reason associated with the name and discount the folks in the list?

Kung Lao has good rush down but...he's not the best. Before I can crucified look at the other canidates. Johny literally is unparalleled at keeping the pressure on close range and his popup kick is every bit as effective as kung's spin on punishing jumpins. Jax as one of the best low strings in the game and is anti-air and dash push are devastating when you bait the opposition. Sonya is THE UNSEEN menace of rushdowns. She has a dive kick that comboable, she has an aerial throw, resets similiar to the Johny nutpunch and can inflict quite a bit of damage. When Kung Lao's get over their low hat mix ups and their spin defense its really hard to see how they measure up in the rush down apartment next to Johny, Jax and Sonya.

OFFENSIVE Kombatant- which combatant has the tools to be devastating at all ranges: good projectiles/ tele...good pokes...good mix-up game.

Sektor more than fills the bill.
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Are you seriously telling me Cages aa can compete with Kungs spin?

Kungs spin is ridiculous, it's the best aa in the game hands down.
 
CaliJokerstyle

CaliJokerstyle

Dies A Lot
while i mainly agree with the Zoning, to not have noob makes no sense. Zoning is based on control of the screen and Noob can control both air and groung high low with all his shadows. So he must definitely be there.

With the Corner combatant to not have Jax is just wrong, he is unstopable in the corner. If you have ever played a good Jax you would not even consider anyone else for this, as if played right you are done. CSZ also fits well in the corner pressure with the mixups and high damaging corner combos (but he would not be at the top).

offensive combat need Scorpion, Mileena and Kung Lao. Kung lao is a mixup pressure character and works the best on the Offensive format as PL showed throughout EVO. Mileena also is a up front char as you need to play pressure and mix ups to get anything going with her. Scorpion is a offensive char that is why he is difficult as he is full risk reward you need to take offensive risks to make him work well. He could also be considered on pressure as he has some great pressure techniques utilizing crossover and his tele.

Anti air to not have Kung Lao is wrong. He has the single strongest anti air move in the game. Spin is not only utilized to give full combo it anti airs on both sides of KL so even controlled teles like Quans can be hit by it. It also has a quick start up, so it can be used even if the reaction is not perfect unlike some other anti airs. Also the Hitbox is huge which gives even more chance to hit. Edit: JCs kick is no where close to this based on hitbox and timing alone.

also i dont agree on Jax as defensive he is actually best served when played in more rushdown situations though his GP cancel baits are helpful in a defensive set once you can get in you want to as he has great mix ups and strong pressure inside, plus you want to push to the corner.
 
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