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worst character

  • Kano

    Votes: 29 20.6%

  • Stryker

    Votes: 51 36.2%

  • Nightwolf

    Votes: 12 8.5%

  • Sheeva

    Votes: 54 38.3%

  • Click this if you think nightwolf is worst then sheeva also

    Votes: 10 7.1%
  • Total voters
    141
Fractured_Shadow

Fractured_Shadow

Really likes to throw things at you.
coolwhip said:
Who said anything about a 50/50? Mids have nothing to do with 50/50's. He doesn't mean that Kung Lao literally doesn't have a mid (F2 is an overhead, to be precise) since B1 is actually a mid. He just means that he lacks a fast reliable mid hitting normal. His low (B3) lacks range and his F2 overhead is only useful from certain distances and doesn't lead to much. We're talking about a mid hitting jab that is reliable for offense. Don't get me wrong, standing 2 is one of the best jabs in the game, and Kung Lao as a character on the whole is pretty complete and at worst, 6th in the game. But, the lack of a reliable mid does hurt him in many match-ups.
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In every discussion ever about MK9 a mid was refered to as a mid not an overhead sooo no I wont start refering to mids as overheads when talkibg about MK9.

Lao has a reliable mid hitting move in F2. When people complain about a characters lack of a mid when they DO have a mid Im assuming they are refering to a mid hitting launcher... so because Lao had a low luncher if he was also granted a mid launcher her would gain a 50/50....

I asked if ge was refering to a move such as Cage's f3 which is an overhead but hits low crouching characters and he said "Im done." and by reading his other posts he WAS refering to a mid launcher... or an "overhead" which would give lao a 50/50...
 
dribirut

dribirut

BLAK FELOW
Lol Stryker is not the worst. It is cleeeeearly Kano.. C'mon people.. Eeeevery single string is interruptable
 
Peckapowa

Peckapowa

Champion
Fractured_Shadow said:
In every discussion ever about MK9 a mid was refered to as a mid not an overhead sooo no I wont start refering to mids as overheads when talkibg about MK9.

Lao has a reliable mid hitting move in F2. When people complain about a characters lack of a mid when they DO have a mid Im assuming they are refering to a mid hitting launcher... so because Lao had a low luncher if he was also granted a mid launcher her would gain a 50/50....

I asked if ge was refering to a move such as Cage's f3 which is an overhead but hits low crouching characters and he said "Im done." and by reading his other posts he WAS refering to a mid launcher... or an "overhead" which would give lao a 50/50...
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f2 is ass on startup, can't be used in the up close game and doesn't provide any hit advantage, it's decent in situations, you should have read between the lines and understood what he was talking about
 
Peckapowa

Peckapowa

Champion
dribirut said:
That one kick is good and his specials are really good tools
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kano's back1 is ebtter than f3 or 4, and his roll is decent but is upball and so is that aerieal move.. atleast kano can whiff punish and punish, stryker has NONE of this, and if you just block he is worthless.
 
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Peckapowa

Peckapowa

Champion
coolwhip said:
...and still not a top 5 character. Goes to show you the importance of a true mid + great counter-poking tool. Both of which KL lacks. He's awesome, and he's pretty well rounded, but he wouldn't be on the top of my list when I talk about MK9 bullshit.
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he's top 5 imo, he doesn't have any 2-8 matchups like freddie
 
Peckapowa

Peckapowa

Champion
ManOfManyActs said:
a move that was intended to hop over low pokes? if you mean f4 then gtfo, good luck throwing out all these f4's against a serious opponent. You said he had everything, but he doesn't have a mid, that a pretty big fucking thing to not have. I agree though, he is even more complete than kabal , not having a mid is what prevents him from being broken. That is kung lao's design, to have everything except for a mid, it is up to the player to get around not having a mid using all the other tools KL has, that is what makes kung lao interesting.
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i wasn't arguing he was broken, i was arguing that the person who designed him gave him a multitude of tools other characters don't have all in one package without thinking about it... not that he is broken and all of them are perfect in the meta. you have to be naive if you think they were "balancing him" by not giving him that string, the hop kick was meant to be useful though it isn't. I didn't say he was s+ tier, i was saying when they made him in comparison to stryker it's just mentally handicapped from a balance standpoint, you are arguing a point that isn't relevant to the point i made, the point is they gave him an absurd variety of tools. You are stupid if you think they had "balance in mind" by not giving him a mid because they gave him a low anyways.
 
TomlulsBrady

TomlulsBrady

Kombatant
Kung lao is lucky, he has shit that can compensate for his lack of mid hitting strings. Jax has all highs, and a slow ass mid and a unreliable low that doesn't even lead to anything mid screen. Jax has it way worse against low hitbox chars than Lao ever did.
 
coolwhip

coolwhip

Master
Fractured_Shadow said:
In every discussion ever about MK9 a mid was refered to as a mid not an overhead sooo no I wont start refering to mids as overheads when talkibg about MK9.

Lao has a reliable mid hitting move in F2. When people complain about a characters lack of a mid when they DO have a mid Im assuming they are refering to a mid hitting launcher... so because Lao had a low luncher if he was also granted a mid launcher her would gain a 50/50....

I asked if ge was refering to a move such as Cage's f3 which is an overhead but hits low crouching characters and he said "Im done." and by reading his other posts he WAS refering to a mid launcher... or an "overhead" which would give lao a 50/50...
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Cage's F3 is not an overhead. WTF are you talking about?

And nobody ever refers to mids as in overheads. That's part of the reason NRS went back to using universal fighting game terminology in Injustice. Again, WTF are you talking about?
 
Fractured_Shadow

Fractured_Shadow

Really likes to throw things at you.
coolwhip said:
Cage's F3 is not an overhead. WTF are you talking about?

And nobody ever refers to mids as in overheads. That's part of the reason NRS went back to using universal fighting game terminology in Injustice. Again, WTF are you talking about?
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Ugh.... in MK9 language Cage's F3 IS an overhead. Im pretty sure I already covered the fact that I would be using MK9 lingo... here... Ill do this really slow so you can understand.

In MK9 a "mid" is what will hit a low crouching character and has to be stand blocked. An "overhead" is an attack that can be low blocked.

You and what's-his-face were saying that Lao lacks a mid. Which is not true no matter what fighting game lingo you are using. Assuming that both of you were not talking out of your ass I figured that you ment he was lacking a mid hitting combo starter because everyone knows he has a F2.

You came along and said that you ment "mid" as a reliable jab that would not wiff on low block (I drew this conclusion because you kept talking about his S2... which is GDLK btw). So I asked if you were refering to a move such a Cage's F3... which is AN OVERHEAD in MK9 lingo...

Either way you are bitching about Lao lacking a move only a fraction of the cast has (a fast jab that cannot be ducked) or you were trying to say Lao doesnt have all the tools because he is lacking an mid hitting combo starter...

If you cant figure that out then just dont reply.

Edit: Im assuming you are thinking in the form that

Cage S1 is jab
Smoke B2 is and overhead
Cage F3 is a mid
Lao B3 id a low

If this is the case then Lao lacking a "mid" is not true again because he has B2. Additionaly his "lack of a mid" as you would say is not unique or what makes him tough to use because a large portion of the cast lacks a fast mid with faaaaaar less tools than Lao.

Either way the Devs fucked up when they put together the cast.
 
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ForeverKing

ForeverKing

Patreon.com/MK_ForeverKing
Peckapowa said:
oh he must have spaced out when he was thinking about two projectiles including a low which can be held down as a clone for meter, a 6 frame launcher that encompasses his entire hitbox, a 7 frame jab and a 4 hit pressure string, a grounded fast and aerial teleport with 4 options 2 leading to a full combo and one as a grab, plus the tp can be armored for meter, a fast spacing covering divekick, a ground roll which goes under projectiles, an overhead, a low, a string that does extra chip which can be canceled , two strings that end in overheads for a mixup, and a move that was intended to hop over low pokes.
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He's pretty decent
 
THTB

THTB

Arez | Booya | Riu48 - Rest Easy, Friends
dribirut said:
Lol Stryker is not the worst. It is cleeeeearly Kano.. C'mon people.. Eeeevery single string is interruptable
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Who cares? Kano actually has viable strings, interrupts aside. Stryker's ONLY viable string is a super slow low...and his best footsies options are only single hits and don't lead to any actual damage.

I thought Kano was the worst, and then someone brought up Stryker (I think 16 Bit), and then I was like...yeah, what the fuck does this character even do vs anyone?
 
Deyrax

Deyrax

Skarlet who ?
Fractured_Shadow said:
Ugh.... in MK9 language Cage's F3 IS an overhead. Im pretty sure I already covered the fact that I would be using MK9 lingo... here... Ill do this really slow so you can understand.

In MK9 a "mid" is what will hit a low crouching character and has to be stand blocked. An "overhead" is an attack that can be low blocked.

You and what's-his-face were saying that Lao lacks a mid. Which is not true no matter what fighting game lingo you are using. Assuming that both of you were not talking out of your ass I figured that you ment he was lacking a mid hitting combo starter because everyone knows he has a F2.

You came along and said that you ment "mid" as a reliable jab that would not wiff on low block (I drew this conclusion because you kept talking about his S2... which is GDLK btw). So I asked if you were refering to a move such a Cage's F3... which is AN OVERHEAD in MK9 lingo...

Either way you are bitching about Lao lacking a move only a fraction of the cast has (a fast jab that cannot be ducked) or you were trying to say Lao doesnt have all the tools because he is lacking an mid hitting combo starter...

If you cant figure that out then just dont reply.

Edit: Im assuming you are thinking in the form that

Cage S1 is jab
Smoke B2 is and overhead
Cage F3 is a mid
Lao B3 id a low

If this is the case then Lao lacking a "mid" is not true again because he has B2. Additionaly his "lack of a mid" as you would say is not unique or what makes him tough to use because a large portion of the cast lacks a fast mid with faaaaaar less tools than Lao.

Either way the Devs fucked up when they put together the cast.
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Not sure if you're trying to get on MKST list, but Cage F3 was never an overhead. The last part of the string is. Lao's F2 is not a mid, it's an overhead. And it is not a combo starter. But you can continue to make fool of yourself, I'm sure everyone is entertained by this.
 
coolwhip

coolwhip

Master
Fractured_Shadow said:
Ugh.... in MK9 language Cage's F3 IS an overhead. Im pretty sure I already covered the fact that I would be using MK9 lingo... here... Ill do this really slow so you can understand.

In MK9 a "mid" is what will hit a low crouching character and has to be stand blocked. An "overhead" is an attack that can be low blocked.

You and what's-his-face were saying that Lao lacks a mid. Which is not true no matter what fighting game lingo you are using. Assuming that both of you were not talking out of your ass I figured that you ment he was lacking a mid hitting combo starter because everyone knows he has a F2.

You came along and said that you ment "mid" as a reliable jab that would not wiff on low block (I drew this conclusion because you kept talking about his S2... which is GDLK btw). So I asked if you were refering to a move such a Cage's F3... which is AN OVERHEAD in MK9 lingo...

Either way you are bitching about Lao lacking a move only a fraction of the cast has (a fast jab that cannot be ducked) or you were trying to say Lao doesnt have all the tools because he is lacking an mid hitting combo starter...

If you cant figure that out then just dont reply.

Edit: Im assuming you are thinking in the form that

Cage S1 is jab
Smoke B2 is and overhead
Cage F3 is a mid
Lao B3 id a low

If this is the case then Lao lacking a "mid" is not true again because he has B2. Additionaly his "lack of a mid" as you would say is not unique or what makes him tough to use because a large portion of the cast lacks a fast mid with faaaaaar less tools than Lao.

Either way the Devs fucked up when they put together the cast.
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A) Cage's standing 1 is a high. Cage F3 is a mid. Cage f4 is an overhead. Liu Kang B3 is a low. This is universal fighting game terminology. Nobody, and I mean NOBODY, not around here, not anywhere, uses MK9 terminology.

B) Nobody bitched about Kung Lao's standing 2. We just pointed out that he doesn't have a reliable string that starts with a mid (again, fighting game terminology NOT MK9).

C) If you want to write an essay condescendingly the least you can do is... get your fucking facts staright, because even in MK9 lingo Cage's F3 is NOT an overhead. In fact, MK9 DOES NOT use the term overhead. They use the terms high, mid and low. So in MK9 terms, Cage's F3 is a high.

D) Read post C), go to training mode, read what the game says when you hit someone with Cage's F3. I literally just tested this and it says "HIGH." Mk9 terminology uses "high" for both highs and mids, and uses mids for overheads.

E) I don't want to be a douche but Jesus Christ you're obnoxious.

F) After you do step D come back here and admit you're wrong.
 
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coolwhip

coolwhip

Master
Fractured_Shadow said:
If this is the case then Lao lacking a "mid" is not true again because he has B2.
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I forgot to add, Kung Lao does not have a B2 move. So I mean yeah, your post is all around pretty embarrassing. The move you're thinking of is B1 which I BROUGHT UP in an earlier post, but I said it's too slow to be reliable.
 
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