Fulgore gameplay discussion

[deathblooms2k4]

With meter he's really strong, but not gaining meter under pressure can be a problem.
Nothing that can be overwhelmed by a really good player but Iron Galaxy wants to buff Fulgore by gaining meter in an other way beside what we already know.
But I can't really figure how he can gain meter beside like the other characters do.

I still don't see why he needs a buff. Valle is doing great with him in tournament, as is Rico. Both can speak better to his weaknesses than I can. Have they said anything about whether or not he should be buffed? He has some tools to get out of pressure, teleports a great dragon punch his standing heavy kick causes knockdown, great dashes. I understand he doesn't get free meter for blocking pressure like most other characters do, but I'm still hesitant on whether or not he needs any other meter building mechanics. He's really strong with meter, being able to cancel into specials is huge. Much of the cast only have meter for shadows.

 

[supernumian]

I still don't see why he needs a buff. Valle is doing great with him in tournament, as is Rico. Both can speak better to his weaknesses than I can. Have they said anything about whether or not he should be buffed? He has some tools to get out of pressure, teleports a great dragon punch his standing heavy kick causes knockdown, great dashes. I understand he doesn't get free meter for blocking pressure like most other characters do, but I'm still hesitant on whether or not he needs any other meter building mechanics. He's really strong with meter, being able to cancel into specials is huge. Much of the cast only have meter for shadows.

I read some information about a buff from Iron Galaxy.
I don't say that he really need it, but it seems that they want to rebalancing KI and Fulgore is one of those character that want to buff because of his meter management.
And I wonder how he can gain meter outside his auto triple and typical setup we already know.

 

[Tony at Home]

So I'm not good enough to get matched up with good Fulgores online, but even if only from my casual-level matches with other Fulgores- it feels like Sabrewulf completely dominates him because of Fulgore's meter mechanic.

When Fulgore is low on meter he can't get it from blocking, he has to charge it. That basically means whenever I catch him without meter he's going to eat a 7-move block string that gives me an entire bar of meter. It feels like without Shadow Counter readily available, Fulgore doesn't have any options to get out a pressure that don't put him at extreme risk. He has to either DP out of it, which is extremely unsafe, or backdash out of it- which he can only do if he's not in the corner.

Basically, if I get Fulgore in the corner, I can do my overpower/cr.lk frame trap, and it's basically a block infinite that Fulgore needs to DP out of if he doesn't have meter. Every other character in the game can wait until the blockstring allows them to build enough meter to shadow counter- thus forcing me to watch out for both a DP and a SC when I'm applying pressure.

And what's more dangerous than a Sabrewulf that can get meter easily? It's Shadow Eclipses all day. The moment Fulgore finds himself without any bar of meter, he's taken away the only thing in the game that keeps Sabrewulf in check- which is his vulnerability to Shadow Counters.


So my 2 cents (and 2 cents = literal monetary value of my scrub opinion), this is the worse matchup in the game and Sabrewulf completely dominates Fulgore.

Any thoughts?

 

[supernumian]

I'm not an experienced KI player, but I think that Sabrewulf is a hard matchup for Fulgore because of the constant pressure that doesn't allow him to gain meter.
However, I think that his worst matchup is Spinal.

 

[deathblooms2k4]

I'm not an experienced KI player, but I think that Sabrewulf is a hard matchup for Fulgore because of the constant pressure that doesn't allow him to gain meter.
However, I think that his worst matchup is Spinal.

Honestly rico would be the guy to ask about the saberwolf matchup. But I think the spinal matchup may be overated. I understand the struggle is that fulgore gives him free skulls with his projectiles, and spinal can drain instinct which Fulgore really needs but on the flip side spinal is used to perpetually gaining shadow meter with skulls and juggles and since fulgore doesn't typically have a lot for him to steal the skulls are less powerful. Spinal also needs meter to drain instinct.

I just don't know, I hear a lot that this is a bad matchup for fulgore but I think Valle beat tyrant in tournament and they are both very good player.