Question Which character should Zod players use against Martian Manhunter?

[M2Dave]

I actually go even with his sups, kdz said its a 5-5 Kappa. His martain I can get wins off of with ARES, FAR MORE UNWINNABLE, in tournament, you bet im in that ass. So why are you whining?

I am not whining. I am stating a fact. Zod loses to Martian Manhunter 8:2.

your trait is already 9 seconds

12 but should be 8.

 

[16 Bit]

The matchup is probably 4-6. Add two points for Jupiter for him being a superior player and Dave wanting to do nothing but zone and you have a 2-8. So it's fine.

 

[M2Dave]

You can have the trait cooldown buff if Sinestro's trait charges faster

Fool, you have already had a trait buff.

But you can have slightly faster shackles and -3 b+1,2 to help in the Aquaman match up.

 

[Mr Aquaman]

Daves searh for an answer to MMH

 

[M2Dave]

The matchup is probably 4-6. Add two points for Jupiter for him being a superior player and Dave wanting to do nothing but zone and you have a 2-8. So it's fine.

Catwoman versus Bane is 5:5.

Get on the best GGA player's level, fool.

 

[Fromundaman]

I think Doomsday is the best choice. Doomsday is a great character for players with strong fundamentals and a 5-5 against MMH.


Lex is another option, but much harder to become good with execution wise. Or just chose MMH himself since that is a guaranteed 5-5

Execution-wise Lex is easy though... I mean sure he's harder than DD, but there are divekick characters that require more execution than DD...

It's just that you need to know a lot about the character/matchup to make him work since he's unsafe on everything and relies heavily on being able to set up.

Speak for yourself. I had rather fight pre-patch Black Adam than Martian Manhunter.

Speak for youself. I had rather fight MMH than pre-patch BA.


Also:

The point is, the whiners who demanded that characters like pre-patch Black Adam and pre-patch Superman be normalized need to show consistency and demand that Martian Manhunter's overhead teleport and trait also be normalized.

Are you serious? Everyone is complaining about MMH
Also aren't you one of the people who has been complaining for roughly a year that your "beta" character was nerfed? Show some consistency and don't call for nerfs on the others.





On a side note, if an 8-2/9-1 MU is a basis for nerfing a character, can we nerf Zod since I heard he 8-2s Joker?

 

[cR WoundCowboy]

Fool, you have already had a trait buff.

But you can have slightly faster shackles and -3 b+1,2 to help in the Aquaman match up.

I might take that...

 

[WITNESS]

12 but should be 8.

no its 9 real seconds, trust me i already done a stopwatch test multiple times and no it shouldnt be any faster

 

[16 Bit]

Catwoman versus Bane is 5:5.

Get on the best GGA player's level, fool.

It's possible but there's evidence to suggest otherwise. I see no reason to not assume Jupiter is just out playing you.

 

[VenomX-90]

Ahhhhhhhhhh Noooowwwww I Seeeeeee, whatever happen to you Zod players say "I win I always win?" Lol fuck outta here.

 

[Big Pampering]

I'm surpirsed dave didn't mention scorpion as one of those beta characters @General M2Dave care to explain u fool

 

[7L]

The match up is arguably 8:2 in Martian Manhunter's favor. It is as good as unwinnable.

Zod players are losing to Martian Manhunter, not the player.

I think you misspelled green arrow.

 

[M2Dave]

I might take that...

Honestly, perhaps b+1,2 should be 0 on block. If Martian Manhunter can have the most simple-minded footsies in the game, 0 on block b+1,2 is fine.

no its 9 real seconds, trust me i already done a stopwatch test multiple times and no it shouldnt be any faster

Fool, I count Zod's trait cool down for a living. It is 12 seconds. You have to wait another second to activate trait even after all the glass pieces retract. Count again.

 

[M2Dave]

I'm surpirsed dave didn't mention scorpion as one of those beta characters @General M2Dave care to explain u fool

I have attempted to avoid arguments because some of GGA believe that beta Scorpion was fine.

 

[Chakk dizzle]

Catwoman versus Bane is 5:5.

Get on the best GGA player's level, fool.

7-3 bane.

Also jupiter is awesome guys. He has superb defense and makes good reads. If he put forth as much effort towards maining a different character he would still be a top player.

 

[16 Bit]

Why can't you just give MMH players there props?

 

[Big Pampering]

I have attempted to avoid arguments because some of GGA believe that beta Scorpion was fine.

so the other beta characters were fine? even now you have people talking about aquaman who has already been nerfed significantly, still top tier, but the nerfs were big. prepatch superman black adam were fucked up

 

[M2Dave]

Why can't you just give MMH players there props?

They win because of their character, not their skill.

For the record, I lose to BiPolarExpress, Cowboy, Theo, etc. and I give them props, even when the match ups are very hard for Zod.

This is not about winning or losing for me.

so the other beta characters were fine? even now you have people talking about aquaman who has already been nerfed significantly, still top tier, but the nerfs were big. prepatch superman black adam were fucked up

If the current version of Martian Manhunter is fine, then so are the beta characters. Martian Manhunter basically has a special move that should have been MB.

 

[oP Twist]

Grow some balls and play a bad matchup with zod, non broken characters have to do it all the time.

 

[DarthArma]

MMH is balanced, he's got great attributes and winning match up allllll across the board...thats balanced right?

In all seriousness, if you want to put time into another character for a less disadvantaged match up, I'd say go lex or doomsday.

 

[Groove Heaven]

My Deathstroke is pretty lackluster and I still feel so much more comfortable playing against MMH with him over Zod. For the people going "just use Zod bruh," it's really not a fun MU and I very highly doubt we're ever gonna figure anything out that changes it. Mars just bops Krypton and that's it.

I'm still working it out and DS can clearly hang with Martian, but I think MMH has a slight advantage.

Dave stop downplaying Zod, there is literally no reason to give trait an 8-second cooldown and even suggesting that is dumb as all fuck tbh...
MMH will also never be nerfed, this is the game.

 

[16 Bit]

Just play footsies with him.

 

[WITNESS]

Fool, I count Zod's trait cool down for a living. It is 12 seconds. You have to wait another second to activate trait even after all the glass pieces retract. Count again.

Fool, even so it should not be 8 seconds, you would have your trait out the entire match, which zod basically already does anyway, if you want your 8 second trait buff then every time i hit you when your trait is out it should disappear, ( which it should already).

 

[Pig Of The Hut]

Just like Max's Bane is out playing you?

Good one

Maybe.

Ehh idk about that

I actually go even with his sups, kdz said its a 5-5 Kappa. His martain I can get wins off of with ARES, FAR MORE UNWINNABLE, in tournament, you bet im in that ass. So why are you whining?

KDZ called superman ares 5/5???

Sigh, I'm convinced everything KDZ says is passive aggressive or downplaying

 

[M2Dave]

Just play footsies with him.

I think even Catwoman out footsies Zod.

Stop trolling.

Eight seconds of cool down on Zod's trait is the answer.