I've played the match a bunch of times offline but I'll try it again just to make sure.
@Krayzie please remind me to test this.
I've played the match a bunch of times offline but I'll try it again just to make sure.
Oh well then that sucks for them. LMAO. So we have One really good tool. Hurray! Shazam OPNo they can't !
SHAZAM !
Needs nerfs!
22 you can backdash and you may actually be able to Poke out of it. he does not need Nerfs. You can Punish his Wiffed Command Grabs. You just need good reactions. If you are not expecting it then you will probably miss the punish. His entire Game is about 50/50 and guessing games really. Nerfing him would be really sad actually.
I know. F*ck'n 50/50 to get out of a 50/50. 50/50's on top of 50/50's...
So Killer Frost And BatGirl. Grundy Doesnt really make you guess. Shazam Does to some extents but his Mix ups are not that amazing. his Game when you are on knock down is really good though. At least its not bane where you dont have to care about the opponents WU at all.
Yea standing 3 is awesome cause it beats traited 3 for mmh. But mmh can simple jump teleport (on a read) if I do stand 3 at the beginning.
Instant air or jump then teleport?
MMH isnt kabal though. This game is more balanced and MMH doesnt win for free. He has a lot of MUs that are legit 5-5 I think. The game is only a year old so there is always more to learn but for now i think its a fairly accurate chart
Jump back than tele
I can't see this mu being any better than 4/6 for sinestro. 2,2 in trait has just as much range as b12 and it's faster. Any time mmh blocks b12 sinestro is forced to block a follow up 2,2, which could potentially lead to Sinestro losing his entire life bar. MMH also outchips sinestro in the zoning war and makes building trait very risky because of the pillars and teleport. Every time sinestro gets knocked down, he has to guess for his life because MMH can easily reverse the wakeup inputs. The mu becomes even worse on some stages since MMH controls all interactibles and has guaranteed setups for them.
I can't teleport when close orb is out. I'll get knocked out of the animation almost every time. Also MB Pillar will body any teleport attempt without even needing to make a read. I do however, do pretty well on the post OH Teleport guessing game.
I actually was pretty sure this match up was like 2-8, it was the entire reason I dropped the character. Turns out my match up sense was just mis-calibrated. All those other match ups that I thought were 3-7 or 4-6 for Ares must be even or winning match ups. Ares is viable!Wow Ares must be really good to only go 4-6 vs Martian.
I agree.
how is mmh vs lex not in mmh favor on the stages that have a million interactables and toys for him to throw and abuse?
Because I'm one of the few who can safely throw them at him and not have to deal with them as much.
Wait really?! That's dumb...
Are you serious? I thought you were trolling but this is like the 15th post calling for Shazam nerfs...
mmh still gets guaranteed 22% added on top of his combos with interactables otgs and can use his uber knock down game to abuse lex's unsafe wake up game. i dont see how this is a non factor. lex doesnt have trait up 24/7 up vs a char who fills the field with orbs, ground bursts and teleports
1. yes i do
The reason people think he's mad op is because MMH absolutely destroys a lot of people's characters(and judging by this mu chart Jupiter doesn't even realize how much over time a lot of people are putting in against him just to never even have a fighting chance) and those people are forced to counter pick with a character goes maybe 6-4 but probably really 5-5. And even worse, the character they're counter picking with might not even be particularly good for any other match ups and the MMH player is almost guaranteed to know the match up super well because it's one of only like 3 match ups that's "hard" for him.
Jupiter is so Hollywood.
