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Zyphox

What is going on guys, Ya Boi Zyphox here.
I use KF and my sparring partner uses Flash.

Everything AM does is punishable. AM can't do anything without getting punished. Trait means little in this MU. AM can't FtD, can't trident rush, can't scoop; what's he meant to do? Flash can stuff up all his wakeups and AM can't zone flash. Why do you think this is a bad MU for Flash?


You can option select backdash.
i never said it was bad for flash, but he out footsies flash by a land slide, you can't dash up on him, you can't jump in on him, jumping 2 is ridiculous in this MU. its 5 - 5.
 

Pan1cMode

AUS FGC represent!
i never said it was bad for flash, but he out footsies flash by a land slide, you can't dash up on him, you can't jump in on him, jumping 2 is ridiculous in this MU. its 5 - 5.
You can anti-air AM j2 with db3 into full trait combo. Flash b2 has slightly more range than AM b1 (even if it's slower). [Not arguing that Flash out footsies him just saying it's not that bad]

I could see it being 5-5, but my sparring partner agrees it's prolly in Flash's favour.
 

Zyphox

What is going on guys, Ya Boi Zyphox here.
You can anti-air AM j2 with db3 into full trait combo. Flash b2 has slightly more range than AM b1 (even if it's slower). [Not arguing that Flash out footsies him just saying it's not that bad]

I could see it being 5-5, but my sparring partner agrees it's prolly in Flash's favour.
yes i know i was the one who posted that tech, but you see i play aquaman players that have more options that jump back 2, if i for a minute stop trying to react to a dash just to try to react to a jump back 2 with FU (which jump back 2 seems to stuff a lot) then it makes it harder to deal with, and j2 cannot be anti air for that amount of damage at the range aquaman wants it, his jump is too short. trust me i lost the top 8 placing match to brady only to beat him to get top 3 at WB i think i know what i am talking about.
 

DevilMaySpy

Mama's Little Bumgorf
At first I thought Foxy was a huge optimistic upplayer, but he may be right about Wonder Woman.

My top 5 is

Batgirl
Martian
Zod
Wonder Woman
Aquaman
 

HomeLee1121

Warrior
Interesting. I know nothing about WW so I won't comment there but what is it that cyborg can do to BM that Zod can't? Zipline?
See this is where im gonna disagree with @AK Pig Of The Hut on the cyborg mu :p if zod trades iazb with grapple we both get knocked down but bm is launched. Cyborg, if we trade cyborg is knocked down but bm just staggers a bit. Gives bm more than enough time to call trait and dash in, worth the trade imo. Idk never played a top tier cyborg. Also one last thing bm vs zod is 5-5 ANYONE that disagrees with me is playong the mu wrong...period :)
 

Pig Of The Hut

Day 0 Phenomenal Dr. Fate and Darkseid player
People are so biased of what they think a top 5 character is. From what I've read thus far, it appears that people are listing which characters they personally have a hard time fighting the most.
I have zero issues w Aquaman , ZOD mirror, and do well vs BG and others

Blow out most WW and go even w foxy

MMh I need work so no for me this don't true
 

Yoaks

A spaceman
You gotta play some good WOWO players. I thought she was good to but after I played foxy and skeezer I was convinced.
I developed a DEEP hatred for WoWo after playing Skeezer's! And I'm saying that in the nicest way possible lol.
 

Pan1cMode

AUS FGC represent!
yes i know i was the one who posted that tech, but you see i play aquaman players that have more options that jump back 2, if i for a minute stop trying to react to a dash just to try to react to a jump back 2 with FU (which jump back 2 seems to stuff a lot) then it makes it harder to deal with, and j2 cannot be anti air for that amount of damage at the range aquaman wants it, his jump is too short. trust me i lost the top 8 placing match to brady only to beat him to get top 3 at WB i think i know what i am talking about.
Oh, I'm not doubting what you're saying at all :). Maybe my friend just plays the MU differently because he seemed to have no trouble.

We'll both be at EVO this year though so look forward to running games with you.
 

Yoaks

A spaceman
People are so biased of what they think a top 5 character is. From what I've read thus far, it appears that people are listing which characters they personally have a hard time fighting the most.
I have a hard time fighting Zatanna and Hawkgirl but their not Top 5. EDIT: I mind as well put Doomsday (I even play the character), Grundy,Catwoman, Ares and Nightwing in staff stance to my list.
 
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G4S KT

Gaming4Satan Founder
this game is too match up heavy for the community to agree on anything probably ever, unless everyone starts playing every character.

character paradigms and toolsets vary too wildly
 

SEV

Apprentice
1. Zod - I am a believer
2. Batgirl - One touch is more than enough
3. MMH - Amazing but dirt not dirty enough to be #1 or 2
4. WoWo - Most balanced character with no visible drawbacks
5. AM - Trait, normal reach, and D2
6. Batman - Push block or gtfo
7. Superman - Footsies and divebombs among us
8. Sinestro - Hold the boulders... and the vortex
9. Bane - Breaks the bat and the meta
10. Black Adam - Always a world of dick takers
 
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Laos_boy

Meow Hoes
Out of my top 5
MMH
Zod
Bat girl
Aquaman
Wowo

I have no problems fighting any of them except aquaman but I don't have Exp.

I do have problems with 6 and 7 BAne and Sinestro
 

Paul the Octopus

Slow Starter
These lists are far too influenced by the latest set of tournament results, which is silly because of (1) how varied results have been and (2) the humongous role of player skill in determining results. Number of top 5 lists with batgirl increased exponentially after sonic fox won FR.
On batgirl's cartwheel - maybe I'm missing something, but I think the value is greatly overstated. Yes it's annoying to guess as a defender, but the trade off is actually in your favor. If you get hit you take 10% if you guess right, all versions are punishable for much more than that.

Her other footsie tools seem to have problems too. They are easier slow or punishable for more than the damage they deal. What am I missing?