It's honestly hard to say. When I look at the characters people are questioning, I'm more looking at the characters around them and comparing. Like I think that WW's is very good, but its probably more comparable to something like Flash's D2, and compared to someone like Bane's and Sinestro's, I don't think it quite reaches how good those are. Although maybe I'm downplaying it a little bit.
I honestly don't know how much damage Bane gets off of D2, but I figured that even with venom, I didn't think it could get to the mid 40s which grundy can get with his reset.
All depends how much meter or venom you are planning to keep. Honestly top tier should be like Aqua Bane, Joker, Flash, maybe WW.
Yeah but it has to be over a specific height to get a b3. The hitbox on her d2 sucks in comparison to others and the fact that her hurtbox doesn't lower at all means that the majority of the time it just gets beaten out by even mediocre jumping attacks, online at least. It's put me into the bad habit of not even attempting an anti-air on reaction.
The benefits of Sinestro's D2: 11 frames, a picky hitbox, it INCREASES Sinestro's own hurtbox and it is -12 on block. Yea...it's godlike. Like I said, it's overrated.Couldn't Zatanna B3 into full combo + set up off of her raw D2? how many characters in this game can do that? I saw it done a couple of times.
NW's D2 is 12 frames and has a weird hit box (hits when the opponent is at the highest point of their jump attack, can't be used against insta airs) I've seen some NWs utilize it on reaction and that's some amazing ish.
Staff D2 is a very nice defensive tool, 8 frames but it's more of a horizontal hitbox than vertical.
I can't believe a Sinestro main was downplaying his D2.
If it anti airs someone like Joker then it's pretty good. Maybe not top 3 but definitely top 5.
I'd say maybe top 8, he really doesn't have anything safe to cancel it into, and as far as anti-air it gets outclassed by bitter better hitboxes.
Arachnid. But I agree with your post.
But with the Joker or other good jump attacks, it has to be done almost as more of a read than a reaction. The best D2s imo can be used on reaction every time.
I get your point, Joker and some other characters have the luxury of being able to just throw out d2 without specifically aiming to AA while Sinestro doesn't.
Sinestro's d.2 isn't exactly known for its horizontal reach, and while its true -8 is safer (prevents Bane from punishing it on block) most of the cast can still punish it on block.You said "safer".
-8 isn't bad depending on how it's spaced.
Sword Stance uppercut is the same speed.
