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ForeverKing

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5-5 vs Grundy according to Brady, The character with the best anti air in the game has a hard time against Hawk Girl? If your mentioning BA then you probably haven't played the newest patch.

Who does Aquaman lose to again?
Aquaman beats Grundy for sure, 6-4. He probably has slight advantage over Black Adam now. I have no idea about Hawkgirl, but I doubt he loses
 

Doombawkz

Trust me, I'm a doctor
I don't need to say much aside from you'd think with all those good MUs they would actually do better in tourneys, but honestly I can't say much more than I see a lot more Banes and Hawkgirls in top placements than I do KF and MMH.
 

Red Reaper

The Hyrax Whisperer
Yea, seriously. I swear it has to be a typo or something. 5f overhead is beyond broken.
If he had a 5 frame overhead I'd bump him up from 3rd! lol..

I would say that it kould be possible that he meant 15* but then the argument that it's faster than Martian's "more than 10 frames" F2 would be null. It seems like just spontaneous unresearched information from someone who thought Flash was mega broken or a troll.
 

Skkra

PSN: Skkra
I especially like this cause I get to downplay Scorp. :)
At first I saw Scorpion at the bottom and thought "King, I bet Slips would like to have a word with you..."

...then I realized you were probably happy as hell since you get to look like a low tier hero hahaha.
 

Red Reaper

The Hyrax Whisperer
I don't need to say much aside from you'd think with all those good MUs they would actually do better in tourneys, but honestly I can't say much more than I see a lot more Banes and Hawkgirls in top placements than I do KF and MMH.
I think it's the fact that MMH players have a lot of even match ups that they're not used to and with everyone saying how broken he is, they get overkonfident. Plus, some of them are used to getting away with stuff that they really shouldn't be getting away with so when they play someone that has the answers they get screwed over. That and he has a big hitbox so he sometimes gets hit by shit you wouldn't expect him to.. When you airdash with Martian, you gotta watch your feet and plan your dashes, not just Superman/WonderWoman your way around the stages.
 

Doombawkz

Trust me, I'm a doctor
I've got a tier list for you, most accurate one. You guys ready?

GGA -insert name here- / EMP -insert name here-
Everyone else
Joker

Honestly no one is just picking up MMH and having a top 8 placement.
Its characters who have great players and scenes representing. So the list should be pretty much everyone in S tier barring a few people.
 

EMPRESS_SunFire

Regina George of discord
Dodging a 5-5 matchup says more about the player than the matchup.
Lol OMG i didn't mean someone declining, but an Aquaman player willalways try to evade this mu, it's pretty annoying for Aquaman, it could be on HG favor tho, but i will stay with 5-5 also you were saying that Aquaman didn't have problems fighting her because he has the best AA XD lol wtf, actually Aquaman will barely use his AA in this MU, he will just to hit her on her pressure and we can punish him for trying that.
 
Lol OMG i didn't mean someone declining, but an Aquaman player willalways try to evade this mu, it's pretty annoying for Aquaman, it could be on HG favor tho, but i will stay with 5-5 also you were saying that Aquaman didn't have problems fighting her because he has the best AA XD lol wtf, actually Aquaman will barely use his AA in this MU, he will just to hit her on her pressure and we can punish him for trying that.
In no way to I mind fighting this character. If anything, this is more annoying for the HG player because she CAN NOT get up. Aquaman gets to check her every time and she can not punish him for it. This forces her to block, allowing Aquaman to mix her up.


Also, Aquaman hasn't been top 3 in a LONG TIME. He's somewhere around #9-11. Just because he beats Bataman, WHO BY THE WAY IS EASILY TOP 5, doesn't make him SS tier.
 

EMPRESS_SunFire

Regina George of discord
In no way to I mind fighting this character. If anything, this is more annoying for the HG player because she CAN NOT get up. Aquaman gets to check her every time and she can not punish him for it. This forces her to block, allowing Aquaman to mix her up.


Also, Aquaman hasn't been top 3 in a LONG TIME. He's somewhere around #9-11. Just because he beats Bataman, WHO BY THE WAY IS EASILY TOP 5, doesn't make him SS tier.
I really have no much problem against him, i don't see her losing this MU either, it's either that the Aquaman players i play just need more MU experience or this MU seems annoying for him tho.

About the Aquaman placement i don't know about his MU's at all but really #9? Wow lol
 

RIF

Noob
I don't need to say much aside from you'd think with all those good MUs they would actually do better in tourneys, but honestly I can't say much more than I see a lot more Banes and Hawkgirls in top placements than I do KF and MMH.
Results do not determine tier placement.

Top: Aquaman, Batgirl, Batman, Black Adam, Doomsday, Flash, Green Lantern, Killer Frost, MMH, Raven, Superman, Wonder Woman, Zod
Middle: Ares, Bane, Catwoman, Cyborg, Deathstroke, Green Arrow, Harley Quinn, Hawkgirl, Lex, Lobo, Nightwing, Scorpion, Shazam, Sinestro, Solomon Grundy, Zatanna
Bottom: Joker (Potential Mid)

If I had to break out the tiers a little more, I would list them as the following:

S: MMH, Wonder Woman, Flash
A+: Aquaman, Batgirl, Batman, Black Adam, Doomsday, Killer Frost, Superman, Zod (Possible S)
A: Bane, Hawkgirl, Green Lantern, Raven, Sinestro, Solomon Grundy
A-: Ares, Catwoman, Deathstroke, Harley Quinn, Lex, Lobo, Scorpion, Zatanna
B+: Nighwing, Shazaam, Green Arrow
B: Cyborg, Joker

You can win with a middle character. There are a number of meta-breakers in this game: Bane, Batgirl, Hawkgirl, MMH, and Scorpion. They are going to be winning tournaments because they don't need to play Injustice. They can play whatever the hell they want.
 
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RIF

Noob
In no way to I mind fighting this character. If anything, this is more annoying for the HG player because she CAN NOT get up. Aquaman gets to check her every time and she can not punish him for it. This forces her to block, allowing Aquaman to mix her up.


Also, Aquaman hasn't been top 3 in a LONG TIME. He's somewhere around #9-11. Just because he beats Bataman, WHO BY THE WAY IS EASILY TOP 5, doesn't make him SS tier.
He might not be top 3, but he's definitely not below 7.
I agree Batman is Top 5, but Aquaman is right there.
 
I really have no much problem against him, i don't see her losing this MU either, it's either that the Aquaman players i play just need more MU experience or this MU seems annoying for him tho.

About the Aquaman placement i don't know about his MU's at all but really #9? Wow lol
They don't know the mu then. Fight an Aquaman that knows it and you will see different.
 

Doombawkz

Trust me, I'm a doctor
Results do not determine tier placement.
You're right. Its theory crafting, and whoever the community is convinced about by top players.
Otherwise you'd have top 5 Bane because hardworking players have made consistent top placing as of late.

And lord knows we can't have that, right? :p
 

RIF

Noob
You're right. Its theory crafting, and whoever the community is convinced about by top players.
Otherwise you'd have top 5 Bane because hardworking players have made consistent top placing as of late.

And lord knows we can't have that, right? :p
Bane is a legit character with a plethora of tools. I have him as an 'A' character. If that upsets you....shrug.

I did not come to this conclusion based on the opinions of others. It's looking at tools.
 

Red Reaper

The Hyrax Whisperer
Bane is a legit character with a plethora of tools. I have him as an 'A' character. If that upsets you....shrug.

I did not come to this conclusion based on the opinions of others. It's looking at tools.
Yeah. Ridiculous forward and backdash. Meterless Armor. Good oki. Easy knockdowns. Long Range fast low (albeit lower damage). etc...