Getting in those situations with 4 meter is almost impossible with Batman and Scorpion due to they're always using meter. KF and Batgirl have amazing vortexes, but they can still be blocked.
Can we please stop with all this Scorpion upplay? This character isn't good. He only controls the pace of the match if you're impatient. I'll admit he's annoying if you don't know the MU, but its not that bad to deal with him.
I see- good point about the use of meter for Batman and Scorpion, as well as blocking the 50/50 vortexes.
I must respectfully disagree with you on the matter of scorpion. It may be just due to the character I play (WW), or, more likely, my lack of skill/reads/patience/matchup understanding (Which you seem to be implying about me, whether passive-aggressive or unintentionally), but I feel as though the character is still good and I know there are a few others out there that would agree. In my terms of analysis, Scorpion will always be
at least "good", if only on certain stages, because:
1) Much like MMH, the zoning game is completely irrelevant to him in terms of defense- a big deal in this game.
2) He can never be hit by an interactable and can easily abuse the ones that respawn
Its a good point that many players lose to Scorpion due to impatience and a refusal to make any reads and punish accordingly- but too much patience and suddenly you're playing right into his hands- eating mixtures of hellfire, dumpsters/barrels/pigs, and air teleports as you attempt to alternate between crouch/standing blocking or evading interactables. I suppose my point is that there is a huge difference between playing against Scorpion with WW and playing against him with Aquaman, and a huge difference between playing against Scorpion on Gotham City rooftops and Gotham City streets.
In short i feel that there is a reciprocated "downplaying" of Scorpion to his "upplaying", and that the character can still be considered "good". I must highlight the fact that since Scorpion's nerfdom I have only played one Scorpion player that made me re-examine him- accentuated by my original post's: "When played correctly."
As a side note:I always see people on TYM talking about how awesome and OP Bane is, yet I have yet to even come close to losing to one. Perhaps WW is a good matchup against Bane, but playing against somebody who knows how to use their character's tools best means a world of a difference. I also always see people complaining about Supes zoning (more so pre-patch) but I've NEVER had a problem with it thanks to IADM. My point
here is that character tier/skill is 100% subjective, and not certainly not fact even when the game is twice as old as it is now. I dislike when people suggest (with a high brow) that perception of character ability is known fact.
