Did Black Adam Really Deserve The Scorpion Treatment?

[zoofs]

I don't see why they did more damage scaling, the rest was justified I guess, but the damage scaling was too much.

 

[Lumpymoomilk]

I must be one of the few people around here that thinks no character should have safe combo starters and free escapes.

 

[R3CK3Dx]

Scorpion is worse black Adam still has ex divekick, amazing trait, safe launcher and much more y'all need to calm the fuck down

 

[JAZZY RULEZ]

can someone tag reo in this

 

[TRY_HARD]

Would Killer Frost still be very good if slide were -21 on block?

Would killer frost still be very good if slide was -15?

 

[Big Pampering]

he was overnerfed, forward dash, damage and divekick shouldnt have been nerfed. The question is not '' is black adam still good'' the question is were these nerfs deserved and the answer is no.

 

[Rampage254]

They should give him an air dash and new alt to make up for the nerfs.

I also can't wait to fight the random BA players that loved to abuse backdash but have no idea about the patch.

 

[Matix218]

Black Adam is still going to be good and tournament viable post patch. Just not broken like before

 

[Lord Hollow]

Don't whore out full screen divekicks, is the point NRS was tryng to make to the public, I believe.

 

[Chaosphere]

The patch isn't out yet. BA will still be a good character. You can't even speculate on how hard he was hit before the patch is even out.

One thing is for sure, he won't be exploiting a ridiculous back dash to get out of literally everything. No character should have something like that, especially when they have full screen full combos.

 

[Vagrant]

He's fine.

Shut up.

 

[A New Angel Is Advent]

Nobody knows yet. This thread would be more interesting in a couple weeks. I'm most concerned about forward dash affecting his MB BS, but his two buffs might open up some good tech. The damage might not be that bad, as his mega damaging stuff is usually sacrificed for oki/vortex anyway. And his meterless damage was admittedly too much though I doubt most people have seen his optimal meterless stuff.

 

[LEGI0N47]

He absolutally did.

 

[Lord Hollow]

The patch isn't out yet. BA will still be a good character. You can't even speculate on how hard he was hit before the patch is even out.

One thing is for sure, he won't be exploiting a ridiculous back dash to get out of literally everything. No character should have something like that, especially when they have full screen full combos.

Agreed. They only took the yolo aspect of him, imo. He had two full screen options to take 35+% at any given moment with (one?) bar. That's ridiculous. Coupled with his insane backdash, you have a character that can literally run the entire match with very little effort. He will still be very good, but not as brain dead. His risks match his rewards now.

 

[IrishMantis]

Did he deserve it soem of it some was overkill, i always said they can nerf everything the fuck they want except the mobility

what do they do?

Nerfed everything the fuck they want,,, and his mobility

didn't think his damage needed it either
see since they nerf ed the backdash the GL MU is def going his worst MU
his backdash frame reduction nerf is big because, he use to be able to bd GL B1, and still have enough time to do a just frame lightning zap, now thats gone

Are people over reacting, until we play the patch ourself we cant know,
so most definitely people are Overreacting, im betting hes still top 10, maybe top 7, he will still win tournys

Over nerfed - yes
Over reaction - yes
No longer Top tier - No fuckin way, hes not still top tier

 

[SaJa]

Interesting, let's see if this is the player or the character

 

[Lord Hollow]

Interesting, let's see if this is the player or the character

Exactly. Now, it will be the player, imo.

 

[zaf]

He didn't get rendered useless like Scorpion... he's still really good.

They are fixing Scorpion by giving him his damage back and making his overhead string not whiff.

the damage buff is enough to make me use him again
wish trait got some re-working instead of being a half ass BA trait.
the overhead not whiffing on crouch anymore is finally being fixed... shit was so retarded.

 

[Paranoia]

patches come out, and characters change. You either accept it and adapt, or just pick another character if you think your character got nerfed to smithereens. Crying about it won't change anything, or would it? lol ... but I mean seriously, it happens all the time in MOBA games and people are fine with it, so why can't we accept it in fighting games as well?

 

[SaJa]

Black Adam deserves the Shazam treatment. This is justice !

Morality ? The good guy always wins at the end.

 

[A New Angel Is Advent]

patches come out, and characters change. You either accept it and adapt, or just pick another character if you think your character got nerfed to smithereens. Crying about it won't change anything, or would it? lol ... but I mean seriously, it happens all the time in MOBA games and people are fine with it, so why can't we accept it in fighting games as well?

I think crying helped get the changes in the first place. I predict a lot of BA players will sub MMH since he covers BA's bad matchups really well. On the plus side, maybe this means fewer mirrors for me when I run him in the next couple events. And mirrors have always been my weakness

 

[insomnia_ftw]

patches come out, and characters change. You either accept it and adapt, or just pick another character if you think your character got nerfed to smithereens. Crying about it won't change anything, or would it? lol ... but I mean seriously, it happens all the time in MOBA games and people are fine with it, so why can't we accept it in fighting games as well?

Because we are entitled man-children, and crying about things apparently does work.

 

[Abbneto]

Yep, getting proper fixes sure is terrible

I always see you staying true the to definition of normalizing.

 

[jaym7018]

Would Killer Frost still be very good if slide were -21 on block?

This is the worst comparison ive ever seen. If killer frost also had hella reach and hella frame advantage on strings as well as not having the worst trait in the game and instead one of the best shed be fine. Comparing dive kick and slide in a vaccum is laughable even by your standards.Fool

 

[Silverharp]

Interesting, let's see if this is the player or the character

Wow, I was actually enjoying the video until the Dubstep came in....