Guide Wake Up Super Breaker "Turn that juice to level 3"

[Nonameformedude]

We all know bane is the strongest in the cast(sans superman), but sometimes he can get a little excited and eat a yolo super on wake up. Whenever I'm hit by anything on trait I think, "damn I have armor why did I get hit by that" so I thought I would do some super breaker testing to find the best way to pressure when the opponent has the threat of yolo super.

The first set is after a double punch and dash in follow up. The second set is after a d3 hard knockdown. The third set is after a body press. I did not do a fourth for the venom upper because it sometimes hits at a strange angle that would change the timings needed to break super, but know that it would be about the same as the double punch results if its a full hit(Can dash for this too). Body press after body press im leaving a blank mostly because I believe it will still eat up all non grab immune supers, but the window is too tight for me to get the command so I dont know. Charge after body press is just too much start up

Flash:
1. Double punch OK, Vupper OK, Body press OK, Charge only connects if done without the dash
2. Double punch OK, Vupper OK, Body press OK, Charge NOT OK
3. All too slow for Flashes super

Nightwing:
1 Double punch OK, Vupper OK, Body press OK, Charge only connects if done without the dash
2 Double punch OK, Vupper OK, Body press OK, Charge OK
3. All to slow for NW super

Batman:
1 Double punch OK, Vupper OK, Body press NOT OK, Charge OK
2 Double punch OK, Vupper OK, Body press NOT OK, Charge OK
3 Double punch OK, Vupper OK
I believe batmans super is grab immune, but its possible I was just missing the frame gap

Lobo:
Didnt buy, couldnt test

Joker:
1. Double punch OK, Vupper OK, Body press OK, Charge only connects if done without the dash
2. Double punch OK, Vupper OK, Body press OK, Charge OK
3. Double punch OK, Vupper OK

Harley:
Same as joker

Grundy:
lol gooby plz

Cyborg:
1. Double punch OK, Vupeer OK, Body press OK, Charge only connects if done without the dash
2. Double punch OK, Vupper OK, Body press, OK, Charge OK
3. All too slow for cyborgs super

GA:
He wouldnt ever super out of a combo/knockdown, but if he does you dont even need lvl3 to punish

Superman:
Good luck with those two frames kids

MMH:
1. Double punck OK, Vupper OK, Body press OK, Charge only connects if done without the dash
2. Double punch OK, Vupper OK, Body press OK, Charge OK
3. Double punch OK, Vupper OK

Zod:
1. Double punch OK, Vupper OK, Body press OK, Charge only connects without the dash
2. Double punch OK, Vupper OK, Body press OK, Charge OK
3. Double punch OK, Vupper OK

Lex:
This super is ass, you can push block it or break it like the others

Catwoman:
1. Double punch OK, Vupper OK, Body press OK, Charge only connects without dash
2. Double punch OK, Vupper OK, Body press OK, Charge OK
3. Double punch OK, Vupper OK, Body press NOT OK(I got the body press out in time but it lands on ungrabable frames

Deathstroke:
1. Double punch OK, Vupper OK, Body press OK, Charge OK
2. Double punch OK, Vupper, OK, Body press OK, Charge OK
3. Double punch OK, Vupper, OK, Body press NOT OK(same as catwoman)

Raven:
1. Double punch OK, Vupper OK, Body press OK, Charge only connects without dash
2. Double punch OK, Vupper OK, Body press OK, Charge OK
3. Double punch OK, Vupper OK, Body press NOT OK(same as catwoman)

Aquaman:
1. Double punch OK, Vupper OK, Body press OK, Charge only connects without dash
2. Double punch OK, Vupper OK, Body press OK, Charge OK
3. Double punch OK, Vupper OK, Body press NOT OK(same as catwoman)

Wonderwoman:
1. Double punch OK, Vupper OK, Body press OK, Charge only connects without dash
2. Double punch OK, Vupper OK, Body press OK, Charge OK
3. Double punch OK, Vupper OK, Body press NOT OK(same as catwoman)

Scorpion:
I didnt buy him so I dont know, but his supers cross up so I doubt any of this will help him since you input before they wake up or as they wake up

Zatana:
1. Double punch OK, Vupper OK, Body press OK, Charge only connects without dash
2. Double punch OK, Vupper OK, Body press OK, Charge OK
3. Double punch OK, Vupper OK, Body press NOT OK(same as catwoman)

Ares:
1. Double punch OK, Vupper OK, Body press OK, Charge only connects without dash
2. Double punch OK, Vupper OK, Body press OK, Charge OK
3. Double punch OK, Vupper OK, Body press NOT OK(same as catwoman)

Killer Frost:
1. Double punch OK, Vupper OK, Body press OK, Charge OK
2. Double punch OK, Vupper OK, Body press OK, Charge OK
3. Double punch OK, Vupper OK, Body press NOT OK(same as catwoman)

DoomsDay:
1. Double punch OK, Vupper OK, Body press OK, Charge only connects without dash
2. Double punch OK, Vupper OK, Body press OK, Charge OK
3. Double punch OK, Vupper OK, Body press NOT OK(same as catwoman)

HawkGirl
1. Double punch OK, Vupper OK, Body press NOT OK, Charge only connects without the dash
2. Double punch OK, Vupper OK, Body press OK, Charge NOT OK
3. All to slow for HG super

Shazam:
1. Double punch OK, Vupper OK, Body press OK, Charge only connects without dash
2. Double punch OK, Vupper OK, Body press OK, Charge OK
3. Double punch OK, Vupper OK, Body press NOT OK(same as catwoman)

Green Lantern:
1. Double punch OK, Vupper OK, Body press OK, Charge only connects without dash
2. Double punch OK, Vupper OK, Body press OK, Charge OK
3. Double punch OK, Vupper OK, Body press NOT OK(same as catwoman)
When doing the body press be very strict about your timing because he becomes airborne and immune to grabs quickly. If you do it too fast you will also whiff hard, but it can be done

Batgirl:
Didnt buy, didnt test but I would assume its much like GL since she jumps in the air before she does it.

Sinestro:
1. Double punch OK, Vupper OK, Body press NOT OK, Charge only connects without dash(timing strict)
2. Double punch OK, Vupper OK, Body press OK, Charge NOT OK
3. All too slow for Sinestro super(didnt know it was only a frame slower than HG's)

Black Adam
1. Double punch OK, Vupper OK, Body press OK, Charge only connects without dash
2. Double punch OK, Vupper OK, Body press OK, Charge OK
3. Double punch OK, Vupper OK, Body press NOT OK(same as catwoman)

Bane:
1. Double punch OK, Vupper OK, Body press OK, Charge OK
2. Double punch OK, Vupper OK, Body press OK, Charge OK
3. Double punch OK, Vupper OK, Body press OK(so far him and grundy are the only ones it was ez as butter to land another body press out of body press with)

It seems like Supers dont get any immune frames(sans the grab immune ones)since all these moves have to hit right in the space where a wake up move would be immune. I didnt test extensively with tech rolls but the only move they seem to effect is the body press. Keep the pressure up Banes.

 

[Doombawkz]

Wait, what is this...?

 

[SUPARNOVAX]

I think he's talking about armoring past wake up Super's

 

[Doombawkz]

So this is basically "if they are waking up with super, we can do X to trade armor hits with it and not lose out"?

 

[Nonameformedude]

Yes, I mean armoring and stuffing wake up supers. The title maaay be misleading

 

[Doombawkz]

This is... wow...
Handy.

 

[OutlawNightmare]

I think he means using Level 3 Venom to Armor break a Wake up super after certain set ups. Seeing as all supers armor break so you couldn't possibly armor through them.

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[SUPARNOVAX]

Also most players above scrub level aren't going to wake up super. Bitches be saving it for clash or a fat 60% meter burn filled bnb on Bane during his debuff.

But it is good to know someone is doing some sort of work and posting it up.

 

[Doombawkz]

Also most players above scrub level aren't going to wake up super. Bitches be saving it for clash or a fat 60% meter burn filled bnb on Bane during his debuff.

But it is good to know someone is doing some sort of work and posting it up.

Yeah no kidding, and this has its uses. Namely, it makes sure theres one less thing to worry about when doing our resets and junk. Prevent someone from using super in the last few bits of the match and you'll be thankful for the info lol.

 

[BiPolarExxpress]

Yea solid finds, gj. I've found alot of these out the hard way -_-

 

[chief713]

Yea solid finds, gj. I've found alot of these out the hard way -_-

QFT

 

[big_aug]

This is good info. Thanks for doing this. We all have some experience with stuffing supers, but getting it all in one place and which moves for which characters is really nice.

I know I've lost more than one match because of the yolo super. I can't be the only one.

 

[ColdBoreMK23]

Black Adams Mb lightning doesn't care about your venom sadly.


I broke my back... It's spinal.

 

[Doombawkz]

Black Adams Mb lightning doesn't care about your venom sadly.


I broke my back... It's spinal.

We know :/

 

[Nonameformedude]

Black Adams Mb lightning doesn't care about your venom sadly.


I broke my back... It's spinal.

We know :/

I hope thats coming soon in a patch near you

Also does GL Oas Rocket not count as a projectile, or am I just making a mistake. I swear I juiced passed one yesterday, but he meter burned it and I still took damage.

 

[Doombawkz]

I hope thats coming soon in a patch near you

Also does GL Oas Rocket not count as a projectile, or am I just making a mistake. I swear I juiced passed one yesterday, but he meter burned it and I still took damage.

Meter burn doesn't count as a projectile, its an "explosion" hitbox. Like how you can't level 3 through the blast of some interactables.

 

[Nonameformedude]

Also most players above scrub level aren't going to wake up super. Bitches be saving it for clash or a fat 60% meter burn filled bnb on Bane during his debuff.

But it is good to know someone is doing some sort of work and posting it up.

Yeah I know its not the most actively useful information, mostly for meta game in MU's since I was doin massive MU work yesterday.
Though now that you mention it, I do remember seeing tom brady lose because of a wake up super in something not too long ago(ufgt9? Im not going to look through old footage to find out exactly). No shots being fired, Im sure he would never ever do that again lol

 

[chief713]

It does. You can lvl 3 through MB rocket. But on 1 and 2, you get hit since MB is 2 hits.

 

[Nonameformedude]

Meter burn doesn't count as a projectile, its an "explosion" hitbox. Like how you can't level 3 through the blast of some interactables.

That..completely changes my view of the MU...
Damn son, bein bane aint ez

 

[Doombawkz]

That..completely changes my view of the MU...
Damn son, bein bane aint ez

We didn't pick the character because it was going to be easy.

 

[SUPARNOVAX]

I don't know about you guys, I only picked it cuz I randomly cosplayed him at comic con.

 

[Doombawkz]

I don't know about you guys, I only picked it cuz I randomly cosplayed him at comic con.

I picked him, honestly, because I heard that "YEAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH" in the Battle Arena and got so hype for no reason that I determined myself to choosing him. I don't regret it.

 

[sling1414]

Lol bane shits on GL, dont worry, Oas rocket wont save him xD

Besides, bane is nowhere near as bad as he was/ppl said he was

 

[Nonameformedude]

I picked him, honestly, because I heard that "YEAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH" in the Battle Arena and got so hype for no reason that I determined myself to choosing him. I don't regret it.

I picked him because every time I body press someone I can say, "scooped ya"(that glorious hat trick of three raw body presses in a row, banes got balls). Also when I land b23 when they have half their health bar I can immediately say, "thats a dead guy".

 

[LEGI0N47]

Also most players above scrub level aren't going to wake up super. Bitches be saving it for clash or a fat 60% meter burn filled bnb on Bane during his debuff.

But it is good to know someone is doing some sort of work and posting it up.

LOL pretty much this. But it is handy for when you know it's gonna happen. For some reason nearly all Supermans that I play use it...strange...

Nice thread OP.