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The MK9 Revival: Beyond Grassroots

The_SNKE

BLT | RM
Before you read: Whatever is written below, applies to BOTH MK9 AND Injustice. This is a topic related to NRS games in general :)

I know there are other threads that talk about this same topic, but I want to start seeing some initiative when it comes to making sure not only does MK9 not die, but to keep Injustice going strong as well. Now, I started competitive fighting games with the Smash Bros. community back in 2003-04. I witnessed my region (NorCal) go from a region with basically 1 top player to easily the most stacked region in the scene. Smash is a game that for most of its life has literally NO sponsership of any kind. There was zero monetary incentive for TOs to run something. That's the problem with us, we've been piggybacking way too hard on the Capcom majors...and honestly, as history has shown, it seems like only Capcom games survive in their circuits.

It makes sense though, it's their league.

WE have to make OUR own league.

I'm not saying we have to have our own EVO and stuff...I'm just saying that we need a reason to keep playing MK9. We need a reason to talk trash and hype each other up. We just need a reason to keep getting together. No EVO points, just props and cash. A great example of what I'm talking about is Atlanta's B&B. While it's definitely not a huge scale major it's exactly the type of initiative I'm talking about. We have to advertise our grassroots majors as if they were bigger than MLG or EVO qualifiers.

I've even started the process of attempting to host an NRS major here in NorCal. I'm talking EVERY NRS game to date. I have a good feeling about it. I feel like it's the kind of statement we need to give to let the rest of the world know how strong we can be on our own.

But all of what I said would be pretty useless if no one else is willing to go that extra mile.

This is what I'm asking:

If NorCal had a community ran NRS major, would GGA show up? Would NY show up? Would Atlanta show up? Would even SoCal showup? And this doesn't apply to just NorCal, it's anywhere! Does anyone give a shit? And if you do, how much of a shit do you really give?


EDIT: Frothy made me aware that I wasn't clear enough on how these would work in terms of financial incentive....here it is:

"Well, the way normal tournaments work that are not called MLG...there's a pot. If there's no pot bonus from WB or wherever, and for the most part most majors don't have pot bonuses...then it's just the pot. I remember GGA 16 Bit saying he didn't even make his money back at SCR 2011...and MK9 wasn't even announced for EVO at the time so I don't even know if he received EVO points. His incentive was to win and receive the props for winning. I mean, if you ONLY want to win so you can get some cash...then I really don't know what to say. But on that note, the fact that what I'm talking about is community driven, there would NOT be a ridiculous $30-$50 venue fee. Depending on the type of location we'd get, we can have a lot more control on how we run things. Maybe we find a cheap place that isn't exactly huge but it's big enough. Depending on how many people show up, we could charge like $10 for venue and $20 for pot which is literally DOUBLE the pot at a EVO circuit major. I'm definitely not saying that everyone come and just get bodied or body people for free"
 
How do you advertise something to be huge if there is no incentive for winning? ULTRA EXTREME FIGHTING GAME TOURNAMENT, EXPLOSIONS AND WOMEN EVERYWHERE! 1ST PLACE WINS $500!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1

Bottom line, how much cash is on the line? If it's not enough, why should anyone care to gamble their money to come out to a brand new unproven line of events that doesn't have a very worthwhile reward for the winners?

None of those scenes listed, or any of the other scenes in the US like Ohio, Vegas, etc. would show up to that when they have perfectly good local competition that doesn't cost them an arm and a leg to get to, and majors that have a reputation for being solid events and chances at better money than any grassroots NRS major could provide in the next 5 years at least.

The enthusiasm's good but nobody's gonna be motivated to travel to something like this
 

The_SNKE

BLT | RM
How do you advertise something to be huge if there is no incentive for winning? ULTRA EXTREME FIGHTING GAME TOURNAMENT, EXPLOSIONS AND WOMEN EVERYWHERE! 1ST PLACE WINS $500!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1

Bottom line, how much cash is on the line? If it's not enough, why should anyone care to gamble their money to come out to a brand new unproven line of events that doesn't have a very worthwhile reward for the winners?

None of those scenes listed, or any of the other scenes in the US like Ohio, Vegas, etc. would show up to that when they have perfectly good local competition that doesn't cost them an arm and a leg to get to, and majors that have a reputation for being solid events and chances at better money than any grassroots NRS major could provide in the next 5 years at least.

The enthusiasm's good but nobody's gonna be motivated to travel to something like this
Well, the way normal tournaments work that are not called MLG...there's a pot. If there's no pot bonus from WB or wherever, and for the most part most majors don't have pot bonuses...then it's just the pot. I remember @16bit saying he didn't even make his money back at SCR 2011...and MK9 wasn't even announced for EVO at the time so I don't even know if he received EVO points. His incentive was to win and receive the props for winning. I mean, if you ONLY want to win so you can get some cash...then I really don't know what to say. But on that note, the fact that what I'm talking about is community driven, there would NOT be a ridiculous $30-$50 venue fee. Depending on the type of location we'd get, we can have a lot more control on how we run things. Maybe we find a cheap place that isn't exactly huge but it's big enough. Depending on how many people show up, we could charge like $10 for venue and $20 for pot which is literally DOUBLE the pot at a EVO circuit major. I'm definitely not saying that everyone come and just get bodied or body people for free ;)
 
No reason why we can't play MK9 and Injustice at the same time especially when they're both so easy to play.
You got other people playing AE and UMCV3 at the same time...
 

Red Venom

The Main Man of TYM
Back when I played MK9 (I still have it) I wasn't really following the scene and competitive play. But that being said I'm sticking with Injustice for now, but if this tournament of your's ends up becoming a thing. I'll support it in any way I can.
 

WannabePlayer

Apprentice
Again, I say whatever it takes. I don't care how much gas money I have to waste, I don't care how much entry fees are, I don't care if I have to do the most exhausting kind of work ever, I want this. All of this. When I get a job, idc, if school doesn't get in the way, I'm wasting my paycheck on a roundtrip ticket to wherever one of these NRS/MK majors are going on. I don't care if I go 0-2 every time, I just love this game and the kommunity <3

Also, to anyone who doubted me when I said MK in NorCal is still alive and kicking (I'm looking at you, testyourchat :rolleyes:), get ready to watch us kick some ass while the rest of you guys lazily retire from a game that still has plenty to offer ;)
 

Son ov Timett

Bork, No Jin
The_SNKE, bring your NorCal crew to Vindication on the 17th of August. Vegas/AZ showed up last time and we had a 40+ man tournament. With your crew and a little more candles being lit under local asses we can easily hit 50-60. There were some locals, that didn't even know that the last Vindication took place. So if we all spread the word, sound the horns to Outworld's portals, we can have a nice hearty tournament that's exceptionally well ran.

:)
 

NightwingDayZero

Truth, justice and the American way.
The_SNKE, bring your NorCal crew to Vindication on the 17th of August. Vegas/AZ showed up last time and we had a 40+ man tournament. With your crew and a little more candles being lit under local asses we can easily hit 50-60. There were some locals, that didn't even know that the last Vindication took place. So if we all spread the word, sound the horns to Outworld portals, we can have a nice hearty tournament that's exceptionally well ran.

:)
I wish I didn't have my finals the following week. I loved coming out for WNF.
 

The_SNKE

BLT | RM
Again, I say whatever it takes. I don't care how much gas money I have to waste, I don't care how much entry fees are, I don't care if I have to do the most exhausting kind of work ever, I want this. All of this. When I get a job, idc, if school doesn't get in the way, I'm wasting my paycheck on a roundtrip ticket to wherever one of these NRS/MK majors are going on. I don't care if I go 0-2 every time, I just love this game and the kommunity <3

Also, to anyone who doubted me when I said MK in NorCal is still alive and kicking (I'm looking at you, testyourchat :rolleyes:), get ready to watch us kick some ass while the rest of you guys lazily retire from a game that still has plenty to offer ;)
<3 you Hassam. Me and you gotta show that it's not just Wafflez that has a good Smoke out there ;)



Edit:
I'm gonna tag anyone who I feel still has passion for MK, even though I keep saying this also applies to Injustice as well haha...

EGP Wonder_Chef
AK Reno_Racks
AK Pig Of The Hut
GamerBlake90
Perfect Legend
Cat
GGA Dizzy
GGA HAN
 

The_SNKE

BLT | RM
The_SNKE, bring your NorCal crew to Vindication on the 17th of August. Vegas/AZ showed up last time and we had a 40+ man tournament. With your crew and a little more candles being lit under local asses we can easily hit 50-60. There were some locals, that didn't even know that the last Vindication took place. So if we all spread the word, sound the horns to Outworld's portals, we can have a nice hearty tournament that's exceptionally well ran.

:)

I'm going to definitely try, it's tough because Vindications usually take place around the same time we have locals here. There's a local happening on August 11th so it's going to be tough going to 2 events back to back. Definitely going to try to make it happen though :)
 

TaffyMeat

Infinite Meter Kombos
How do you advertise something to be huge if there is no incentive for winning? ULTRA EXTREME FIGHTING GAME TOURNAMENT, EXPLOSIONS AND WOMEN EVERYWHERE! 1ST PLACE WINS $500!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1

Bottom line, how much cash is on the line? If it's not enough, why should anyone care to gamble their money to come out to a brand new unproven line of events that doesn't have a very worthwhile reward for the winners?

None of those scenes listed, or any of the other scenes in the US like Ohio, Vegas, etc. would show up to that when they have perfectly good local competition that doesn't cost them an arm and a leg to get to, and majors that have a reputation for being solid events and chances at better money than any grassroots NRS major could provide in the next 5 years at least.

The enthusiasm's good but nobody's gonna be motivated to travel to something like this
Mortal Kombat will always continue, regardless if it's being played on the Tournament scene or not. The Tournament scene is not the only part of MK. There is the story scene as well, which has kept MK going for 20 years. The motivation comes from loving the story of MK, it's called Passion.
 

LEGEND

YES!
Elder God
MK9 is still a blast to play and i'll be laying it as long as its around
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i tried going back into the lab in MK9 and almost immediately had a character crisis. . .what is it with me and this game?
 

Goldi

Warrior
I travel from Indiana to Seattle every month for a local that features MK if there are no majors going on.

I'll go wherever. I don't expect to win much more than a few drinks <3
 

JacopeX

Playing: Injustice, Persona, Blazblue, and MK
Add Klassic MK games in this league (MK1-UMK3) with a dose of Post UMK3-Pre MK9 games.

I'd totally pick up MK 4 again if there's anyone out there that is actually good at it. LOL But yeah I really like this idea. But all the way in Cali....damn. -_-