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vicious1024

vicious1024

Does it matter?
Why do people never alternate their wakeup timing against Tremor? Or poke out of up-rock pressure?

Everytime someone has asked me how to deal with Tremor's corner pressure, I tell them two things: Do not let me do that gimmicky-ass up-rock nonsense in a block string and alternate your wakeup timings.

I know lag is a factor, but dealing with some of these options really comes down to conscious decision-making.
 
ShArp

ShArp

Dedicated Broly main
vicious1024 said:
Why do people never alternate their wakeup timing against Tremor? Or poke out of up-rock pressure?

Everytime someone has asked me how to deal with Tremor's corner pressure, I tell them two things: Do not let me do that gimmicky-ass up-rock nonsense in a block string and alternate your wakeup timings.

I know lag is a factor, but dealing with some of these options really comes down to conscious decision-making.
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Worst part is how they start yelling at me and telling how tremor is ridiculiously OP and "BS". How his corner setups are unblockable and even compare him to Quan lmao. I mean - you have atleast THREE options - Try blocking oh rock+low (won't recommend) ; delaying get up, and just blocking the low string which then u can punish (unless Tremor cancels B33 into rock shatter); and time your wakeup rightly.
 
1man3letters

1man3letters

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im more interested in the patch notes stream friday than the alien one, really want to know what changes tremor gets :confused:
hopefully they leave rockdrop and flex alone haha can see a damage decrease in ex dd4 and crystalline ex shatter no longer being plus but be interesting what they change it to
 
marietta1200

marietta1200

Best Coast
1man3letters said:
im more interested in the patch notes stream friday than the alien one, really want to know what changes tremor gets :confused:
hopefully they leave rockdrop and flex alone haha can see a damage decrease in ex dd4 and crystalline ex shatter no longer being plus but be interesting what they change it to
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Heard around the campfire after ESL that the rock drop got whacked :(. Hopefully a buff or two to compensate, at least, because that's gonna eff him up. Find out soon I guess...
 
honeybooboo

honeybooboo

I speak truth, no lie
Shot out of a canon here, but it be great if tremor could cancel specials into the delayed low on aftershock. Seeing that boracho can cancel specials into drink.
 
The Highlander

The Highlander

There can be only one
I think the plus frames should go and maybe some damage scaling off of rolling magma but damn it will be such an uphill climb if they nerf rock drop...
Marinjuana said:
In some thread talking about Tremor nerfs somebody mentioned something about a slower b1, an 8 frame d1 and up rock going away on hit on the way up but not the way down. Can't remember if they were just suggesting nerfs or saying what they heard about it but those seemed very realistic to me. People bitch about up rock so that makes sense. Tremor get's low profiled so slightly faster d1 makes sense. b1 kind of goes into the up rock thing.

I've mentally prepared myself for the up rock nerf because that's something you see people complain about a lot. I throw that shit out all the time, favorite way to end a match is to end one of their combo's with it. But that stuff is kind of gimmicky, I'm more concerned about it's trade value if they choose to nerf it. Could take a little while to get used to.
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Do you mean f1? Why would they nerf b1?
 
T

T-box88

Noob
Marinjuana said:
Idk tbh man but that was part of the reason I found the suggestions to be realistic, it just didn't sound like something a fan would come up with. I think the idea was that blocked uprock into b1 was too strong but IIRC they just said the nerfs not why. If I'm doing my math right it becomes an 8 frame mid after uprock with good range on it. But that's just me speculating at nerfs someone else mentioned, if I even remember them right.
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this is a huge nerf, cuz now we cant counter poke with d1 oh rock. i use it all the time to bait pokes. god dammit all lol
 
dennycascade

dennycascade

UPR_ghastem
1man3letters said:
im more interested in the patch notes stream friday than the alien one, really want to know what changes tremor gets :confused:
hopefully they leave rockdrop and flex alone haha can see a damage decrease in ex dd4 and crystalline ex shatter no longer being plus but be interesting what they change it to
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All I'm hoping to see is a slight cool down on flex so people can quit bitching about it. If they make EX shatter unsafe I'm out lol. Also really hope they leave his damage alone.
 
InFlames

InFlames

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Marinjuana said:
Idk tbh man but that was part of the reason I found the suggestions to be realistic, it just didn't sound like something a fan would come up with. I think the idea was that blocked uprock into b1 was too strong but IIRC they just said the nerfs not why. If I'm doing my math right it becomes an 8 frame mid after uprock with good range on it. But that's just me speculating at nerfs someone else mentioned, if I even remember them right.
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that would be such a useless nerf considering rock drop into 21d4u4 and f121 are way better options
 
Ragnarök Tyr

Ragnarök Tyr

Noob
I don't understand the need to give Up Rock more recovery. Good players never had much of an issue avoiding it. I'll have to see exactly how much the OTG is scaled in his combos. As far as Crystalline's low shatter, given the other adjustments some pressure characters received that was almost a given.
 
dennycascade

dennycascade

UPR_ghastem
At the end of a combo ending with db2 it will usually be scaled down to around 3.50% damage instead of its regular unscaled 12%. Now apply that scaling to his EX dd4 and possibly more if the db2 ender adds to it. He'll probably get like 5%ish extra for a bar which is pretty meh. Also if i heard them right he has no more armor break setups in the corner so no more semi-guaranteed pressure on knockdown and not even a faster d1 or mid to make up for it?

Not saying he's destroyed but I can't see him in S tier anymore tbh
 
InFlames

InFlames

dead
Crystal's interactable got buffed and his armor was untouched. I'd say he was let off easy considering it was a very strong variation.

The Up Rock nerf will only affect Aftershock seriously, which is a bummer but I'm guessing his airquake was left untouched as well so it's not bad.
 
Ragnarök Tyr

Ragnarök Tyr

Noob
5% off of a basic BNB wouldn't be worth the meter expense unless it finished the round. I'd rather use it on BF4 or BF2.

I don't remember hearing anything about his Armor Break setups, though I Imagine the added recovery to Up Rock will ensure that any you once had will be harder to do. If they can be done at all.
 
D. R.

D. R.

Noob
Well this sucks. If nothing else comes from the patch notes then I don't see Tremor being a threat at all anymore, even in Crystalline. No fast mid, uprock increased recovery, damage scaling and the one tourney viable variation losing it's juice, he's done. Glad I went back to Shinnok. That Imposter buff is nuts.
 
GrimJack

GrimJack

Rock paper scissor specialist
Sharp said:
Worst part is how they start yelling at me and telling how tremor is ridiculiously OP and "BS". How his corner setups are unblockable and even compare him to Quan lmao. I mean - you have atleast THREE options - Try blocking oh rock+low (won't recommend) ; delaying get up, and just blocking the low string which then u can punish (unless Tremor cancels B33 into rock shatter); and time your wakeup rightly.
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I don't understand why people cannot block oh rock into b3. the only thing that I found that can lead to a very close OH-low is hit f121 rock into b3. other than that, most of it is quite easy to block(I can block it 90%+ offline)
 
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