Throw tech while blocking. Almost completely safe.

[Sprint]

I hereby declare throws useless by the power of the Stance Dance.

 

[MagicMan357]

ok...

 

[RYX]

Overheads are GGs.

 

[Gesture Required Ahead]

LMAOOOOOOOOOOOOO GOOD FIND!!!

 

[Sprint]

Overheads are GGs.

You can block in any direction.
The only drawback to doing this is that you are immobile for a several frames due to the stance animation. Anything that hits you during it can be blocked or teched as normal.

 

[Seapeople]

I already didn't like that you can tech while blocking but this makes it even worse lol. Nice find.

 

[RYX]

You can block in any direction.
The only drawback to doing this is that you are immobile for a several frames due to the stance animation.

That's more than enough to set any rush-down character up for free pressure. Good luck dealing with frame traps with something that supposedly negates throws.

Are you able to be hit while stance switching like in MK?

 

[Gesture Required Ahead]

You can block in any direction.
The only drawback to doing this is that you are immobile for a several frames due to the stance animation.

1 question though, could you use The Stance Change button to tech normally without dancing? This way I can react-tech easier than hitting my RB/R1 or having to put my thumb across 1+3

 

[Sprint]

That's more than enough to set any rush-down character up for free pressure. Good luck dealing with frame traps with something that supposedly negates throws.

Are you able to be hit while stance switching like in MK?

You can block during the switch. That's the whole point. It lets you input a throw tech without opening yourself up to frametraps at all.

 

[Cat]

I hate that you don't need to tech for
Different sides. Makes grab useless as they can always be teched on reaction

 

[RYX]

No you can't be hit. That's the whole point. It lets you input a throw tech without opening yourself up to frametraps at all.

Except blocking does open you up to frame traps.

I'd like you meet my good friend, Bane.

 

[G4S KT]

lol, this is silly. Useful, but silly.

Patch this out please

 

[shaowebb]

Really? Holy crap this is gonna be beautiful to watch.​

EDIT: Shared on Neogaf. I want this to spread. This will be hypnotic to watch people do. Stickying this.

 

[NY_Jailhouse]

Mostly I want this patched because I don't have room for throw/flip stance buttons in my config lol but still lame easily an obvious patch
You should not be able to tech OR block at all during stance switch.

 

[Sprint]

Except blocking does open you up to frame traps.

I'd like you meet my good friend, Bane.

You seem to misunderstand the meaning of frametrap. A frametrap is where you intentionally leave a gap for the opponent to press a button with the goal of hitting them right out of the startup of whatever move they try to do.

For example, if I do b3 > f2 with Raven. There is a small gap between the attacks. In this gap, if the opponent tries to do anything without some sort of invincibility or armor then they will get hit clean out of it. That is a frametrap.

Unblockable / command grab setups are not frametraps, they are more like a type of mixup. But yes this leaves you vulnerable to it.
Throw+Stance is basically a way to safely input a tech. If a character has an option that you cannot tech then there isn't much point in trying to tech against them in the first place.

 

[ShadowBeatz]

Oh man I hope this catches on. Could you imagine both players stance dancing like crazy in grand finals at EVO?

Or better yet, could you imagine the reaction of the Capcom players? LOLOLOL

 

[MashPotatoTower]

This is awesome hahahahahha!!!! I can't stop giggling
but seriously patch dat shit..

 

[Obanye]

Stance dance patch please

 

[Dandy J]

god like

 

[RYX]

You seem to misunderstand the meaning of frametrap. A frametrap is where you intentionally leave a gap for the opponent to press a button with the goal of hitting them right out of the startup of whatever move they try to do.

For example, if I do b3 > f2 with Raven. There is a small gap between the attacks. In this gap, if the opponent tries to do anything without some sort of invincibility or armor then they will get hit clean out of it. That is a frametrap.

Unblockable / command grab setups are not frametraps, they are more like a type of mixup. But yes this leaves you vulnerable to it.
Throw+Stance is basically a way to safely input a tech. If a character has an option that you cannot tech then there isn't much point in trying to tech against them in the first place.

No. Bane has a low that's +12 on block and strings that give you very small windows to counter before he hits you with the follow up. You tell me he doesn't have frame traps, lol

 

[Sprint]

Ah, we seem to be misunderstanding each others phrasing.
Yes making someone block Bane's b1 sets up a frametrap, but it doesn't mean they will get hit by it.

Normal example:
- You do Bane's b1 and I block it.
- I expect a normal throw and input the tech.
- You press b23.
- My tech input causes my throw animation to come out and the b23 hits me out of it into a huge combo. Whoops.

With stance flipping:
- You do Bane's b1 and I block it.
- I expect a normal throw and hit down+Throw+Stance.
- You press b23.
- It gets blocked.

See what I'm getting at?
A misread throw tech should normally cause someone to eat a frametrap.
Buffering the throw tech into a stance change removes that risk.

 

[Obanye]

So um, everyone should be talking about this and the cyborg block stun infiinte. Those are the only game breaking things currently, not the the scrub's bleeding crying vaginas over meatstroke.

 

[Juggs]

As a UMK3 player, I'm okay with this, lol.

 

[shaowebb]

My response after testing this for awhile. So safe. So hypnotic to watch. I imagine this video is how crowds will react on stream lol.

 

[PND_Mustard]

wut