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Sigmar

Sigmar

Ex Mortis
I'll be posting some basic ST stuff for beginners.:D

ZONING

Zoning is the art of which you keep your opponent away from you, various moves, (could be one).
With Shang Tsung, you'll be using 7 PROJECTILES to do so.

Forward - BB4

GROUND

Close - DU4

Medium - DB4

Far - DF4

AIR

On top - DU2

In front - DB2

Behind - DF2

Not much is to be explained in this section as you will need to be able to some what predict on where your opponent might be moving. Reading your opponent is CRUCIAL as you can't pop out random skulls anywhere you want, if you read them well, movement patterns, moves to get them across the screen faster, ect.. Zoning will become much easier.
All of the ground skulls will pop that character whom is hit up, leaving you an oppourtunity to start shoot more Skulls at them, if you catch them jumping while using the Ground skulls, they'll bounce back leaving you time to use the behind Ground Skulls to either leave them there or carry them back across the screen. Forward and Air will briefly stun your opponent if hit, unless if jumping which then will knock them back if hit with a Forward skull, and Fall is hit with an Air skull.


COMBOS, Each one starts with a Jump in.

NOTE : Some of these combos vary if you soul steal at the end due to sliding issues on the ground. (If you catch him out of the air with soul steal the combo becomes less, if he slides on the ground after you soul steal him, it'll show more damage) I'll list them as if they slid. Some of these combos, mostly in the 2bar ones, and 3 are hard as hell with timing, some of them are without the slide. If you look through the list you'll see most of them are similar just 2 different endings.

MID SCREEN (0 Bar)

221, DB4, DF4, DF4. ---- 7Hits 34%

221, DU4, DB4, DF4. --- 7Hits 34%

221, DU4, SoulSteal. --- 7Hits 34%

F434, DB4, DF4, DF4. ----7Hits 33%

F434, DB4, SoulSteal. --- 7Hits 33%

F34, DB4, DF4. DF4. ----- 6Hits 30%

F34, DB4, SoulSteal. ---- 6Hits 30%


MID SCREEN (1 Bar)

221, DB4, DF4, EXG, DU4, DB4, SoulSteal. ---- 13Hits 44%

221, DU4, DB4, EXG, DU4, 4, SoulSteal. --- 13Hits 44%

221, DU4, DB4, EXG, DU4, 4, DF4. ----- 12Hits 43%

221, DB4, DF4, EXG, DU4, Move forward, 4 ,DF4. ------ 12Hits 42%

221, DB4, DF4, EXG, DU4, Move forward, 4, Soulsteal. ----- 12Hits 42%

221, DB4, DF4, EXG, DU4, Move forward, F43, SoulSteal. ----- 14Hits 43%

221, DB4, DF4, EXG, DB2, DU4, SoulSteal. 13Hits 44%

F434, DB4, DF4, EXG, DU4, DB4, SoulSteal. ---- 13Hits 41%

F434, DB4, DF4, EXG, DU4, DB4, DB4. -----12Hits 40%

F34, DB4, DF4, EXG, DU4, DB4, SoulSteal. ----- 12Hits 41%

F34, DB4, DF4, EXG, DU4, DB4, DB4. ------ 11Hits 40%


MID SCREEN (2 Bar)

221, DU4, DB4, EXG, DU4, 4, EXG, 4, Soulsteal. --- 16Hits 45%

221, DU4, DB4, EXG, DU4, 4, EXG, 4, DF4. ---- 16Hits 46%

221, DB4, DF4, EXG, DU4, Move forward, 4, EXG, 4, SoulSteal. ----- 17Hits 45%

221, DB4, DF4, EXG, DU4, Move forward, 4, EXG, 4, DF4. ------- 16Hits 45%

221, DB4, DF4, EXG, DB2, Move forward, 4, EXG, 4, SoulSteal. ------ 17Hits 46%

221, DB4, DF4, EXG, DB2, Move forward, 4, EXG, 4, DF4. ------ 16Hits 45%

F434, DB4 DF4 EXG, DU4, Move forward, 4 EXG, 4 SoulSteal. ----- 17Hits 42%

F434, DB4 DF4 EXG, DU4, Move forward, 4 EXG, 4, DF4. ------- 16Hits 42%

F434, DB4, DF4, EXG, DB2, Move forward, 4 EXG, 4, SoulSteal. ----- 16Hits 45%

F434, DB4, DF4, EXG, DB2, Move forward, 4 EXG, 4, DF4. ------ 16Hits 45%

F34, DB4, DF4, EXG, DU4, Move forward, 4 EXG, 4, DF4. ----- 15Hits 42%

F34, DB4, DF4, EXG, DU4, Move forward, 4 EXG, 4, SoulSteal. ------ 15Hits 42%

F34, DB4, DF4, EXG, DB2, Move forward, 4, EXG, 4, SoulSteal. ------ 15Hits 42%

F34, DB4, DF4, EXG, DB2, Move forward, 4, EXG, 4, DF4. ------- 15Hits 42%


MID SCREEN ( 3 Bars )

221, DU4, DB4, EXG, DU4, 4, EXG, 4, EXG. -------- 17hits 46%

221, DU4, DB4, EXG, DU4, 4, EXG, 4, EX SoulSteal. ------- 17Hits 46%

221, DB4, DF4, EXG, DU4, Move forward, 4, EXG, 4 EX SoulSteal. ------- 17Hits 45%

221, DB4, DF4, EXG, DU4, Move forward, 4, EXG, 4 EXG. -------- 17Hits 45%

221, DB4, DF4, EXG, DB2, Move forward, 4, EXG, 4, EXG. ------- 17Hits 45%

221, DB4, DF4, EXG, DB2, Move forward, 4, EX SoulSteal. ------- 17Hits 45%

F434, DB4, DF4, EXG, DU4, Move forward, 4, EXG, 4, EXG. ------ 17Hits 42%

F434, DB4, DF4, EXG, DU4, Move forward, 4, EXG, 4, EX SoulSteal. ----- 17Hits 42%

F434, DB4, DF4, EXG, DB2, Move forward, 4, EXG, 4, EXG. ----- 17Hits 42%

F434, DB4, DF4, EXG, DB2, Move forward, 4, EXG, 4, EX SoulSteal. ---- 17Hits 42%

F34, DB4, DF4, EXG, DU4, Move forward, 4, EXG, 4, EXG. -----16Hits 42%

F34, DB4, DF4, EXG, DU4, Move forward, 4, EXG, 4, EX SoulSteal. ----- 16Hits 42%

F34, DB4, DF4, EXG, DB2, Move forward, 4, EXG, 4, EXG. --------- 16hits 42%

F34, DB4, DF4, EXG, DB2, Move forward, 4, EXG, 4, EX SoulSteal. --------- 16hits 42%

(With these 2 bar combos, and 3 bar, when you're about to launch the EXG try to make the EXG low as possible to the ground when lauching it, this will make the combo much easier to do... as you will not have to move forward.

These are some good combos for now, i'll be going over many things... I'll explain why the B1214 string is awful mid screen, and how to use it. Wall combos, resets, traps, more soon to come. There are many combos, I hope to go over many of them, or at least try to, IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT A SPECIFIC COMBO, LEAVE A COMMENT ABOUT IT.
 
WhooFlungPoo

WhooFlungPoo

Noob
Sigmar said:
I'll be posting some basic ST stuff for beginners.:D
I'm sure most beginners with ST already know his skull placements, so I won't go over that.

Some of these combos vary if you soul steal at the end due to sliding issues on the ground. (If you catch him out of the air with soul steal the combo becomes less, if he slides on the ground after you soul steal him, it'll show more damage) I'll list them as if they slid.


COMBOS, Each one starts with a Jump in.



221, DB4, DF4, EXG, DU4, DB4, SoulSteal. ---- 13Hits 44%


221, DU4, DB4, EXG, DU4, 4, SoulSteal. --- 13Hits 44%


221, DU4, DB4, EXG, DU4, 4, DF4. ----- 12Hits 43%


F434, DB4, DF4, EXG, DU4, DB4, SoulSteal. ---- 13Hits 41%


F434, DB4, DF4, EXG, DU4, DB4, DB4. -----12Hits 40%


F34, DB4, DF4, EXG, DU4, DB4, SoulSteal. ----- 12Hits 41%


F34, DB4, DB4, EXG, DU4, DB4, DB4. ------ 11Hits 40%

More work will be done but those are some good combos for now.
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The first combo, what is the timing on the SS at the end. I can get the du4 and db4 and he just falls too fast to SS at teh end of that.
 
F

Fraga

Magical Beard
WhooFlungPoo said:
The first combo, what is the timing on the SS at the end. I can get the du4 and db4 and he just falls too fast to SS at teh end of that.
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There's a trick to it I learned awhile ago. While the EX Skulls hit, you want to do :d:u:bk as the 2nd Skull (Middle Skull) is about the hit the opponent, and continue with the :d:l:bk. Hitting the Soul Steal is a bit tricky, because if :d:l:bk hits before the SS they drop too fast. You need the :d:l:bk and SS to hit at about the same time to work. Sometimes it won't count as a combo (It's happened to me before) but it still does the damage.
 
RustedShank

RustedShank

Noob
WhooFlungPoo said:
The first combo, what is the timing on the SS at the end. I can get the du4 and db4 and he just falls too fast to SS at teh end of that.
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aim about midscreen. the ss is the trickiest part to his combos. Im still waiting on sigmars F1,1,2.. corner combos lol.
 
bloodsport

bloodsport

wat
Im still waiting on sigmars F1,1,2.. corner combos lol.
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JIP, 221, DU4, JK, B1,2,1,4, DU4, you can change the first 221 to pretty much any of his combos, also the B1214 you can change to F434, as well as the last upskull you can change to a downskull for pressure

one of my bnbs is is:
JIP, 221, DU4, DB4, EXDF4, DU4, DU4 - 47% you can change the last upskull to an EX SS for 49% or 50% i forgot

ending combos in downskulls is <3
F34, DB4, DB4, EXG, DU4, DB4, DB4. ------ 11Hits 40%
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impossible!
 
Sigmar

Sigmar

Ex Mortis
bloodsport said:
JIP, 221, DU4, JK, B1,2,1,4, DU4, you can change the first 221 to pretty much any of his combos, also the B1214 you can change to F434, as well as the last upskull you can change to a downskull for pressure

one of my bnbs is is:
JIP, 221, DU4, DB4, EXDF4, DU4, DU4 - 47% you can change the last upskull to an EX SS for 49% or 50% i forgot

ending combos in downskulls is <3


impossible!
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I fixed it thanks, it's DF4... and the combo you've said is IMPOSSIBLE.
 
spongebob

spongebob

ಠ__ಠ
Thnx for the combos.

What I like to do after 221 is DU4 DF4 EX Skull DU4 B2 (tiny bit after close skull hits) then either SS or up skull. I like this combo because theres no hit confirming then with doing DB4 and the inputs feel more lax in that the third ex skull doesn't seem to drop like in other close skull starter combos.

If you don't want to SS after b2 then you can up skull and thanks to the knockdown that b2 causes the up skull is free and you have time to block any wake ups or even recovery rolls into wakeup. You can do the behind up skull to catch rollers.
 
Khaos Effekt

Khaos Effekt

" For His Dead Brother"
Sigmar said:
I'll be posting some basic ST stuff for beginners.:D

ZONING

Zoning is the art of which you keep your opponent away from you, various moves, (could be one).
With Shang Tsung, you'll be using 7 PROJECTILES to do so.

Forward - BB4

GROUND

Close - DU4

Medium - DB4

Far - DF4

AIR

On top - DU2

In front - DB2

Behind - DF2

Not much is to be explained in this section as you will need to be able to some what predict on where your opponent might be moving. Reading your opponent is CRUCIAL as you can't pop out random skulls anywhere you want, if you read them well, movement patterns, moves to get them across the screen faster, ect.. Zoning will become much easier.
All of the ground skulls will pop that character whom is hit up, leaving you an oppourtunity to start shoot more Skulls at them, if you catch them jumping while using the Ground skulls, they'll bounce back leaving you time to use the behind Ground Skulls to either leave them there or carry them back across the screen. Forward and Air will briefly stun your opponent if hit, unless if jumping which then will knock them back if hit with a Forward skull, and Fall is hit with an Air skull.


COMBOS, Each one starts with a Jump in.

NOTE : Some of these combos vary if you soul steal at the end due to sliding issues on the ground. (If you catch him out of the air with soul steal the combo becomes less, if he slides on the ground after you soul steal him, it'll show more damage) I'll list them as if they slid. Some of these combos, mostly in the 2bar ones, and 3 are hard as hell with timing, some of them are without the slide. If you look through the list you'll see most of them are similar just 2 different endings.

MID SCREEN (0 Bar)

221, DB4, DF4, DF4. ---- 7Hits 34%

221, DU4, DB4, DF4. --- 7Hits 34%

221, DU4, SoulSteal. --- 7Hits 34%

F434, DB4, DF4, DF4. ----7Hits 33%

F434, DB4, SoulSteal. --- 7Hits 33%

F34, DB4, DF4. DF4. ----- 6Hits 30%

F34, DB4, SoulSteal. ---- 6Hits 30%


MID SCREEN (1 Bar)

221, DB4, DF4, EXG, DU4, DB4, SoulSteal. ---- 13Hits 44%

221, DU4, DB4, EXG, DU4, 4, SoulSteal. --- 13Hits 44%

221, DU4, DB4, EXG, DU4, 4, DF4. ----- 12Hits 43%

221, DB4, DF4, EXG, DU4, Move forward, 4 ,DF4. ------ 12Hits 42%

221, DB4, DF4, EXG, DU4, Move forward, 4, Soulsteal. ----- 12Hits 42%

221, DB4, DF4, EXG, DU4, Move forward, F43, SoulSteal. ----- 14Hits 43%

221, DB4, DF4, EXG, DB2, DU4, SoulSteal. 13Hits 44%

F434, DB4, DF4, EXG, DU4, DB4, SoulSteal. ---- 13Hits 41%

F434, DB4, DF4, EXG, DU4, DB4, DB4. -----12Hits 40%

F34, DB4, DF4, EXG, DU4, DB4, SoulSteal. ----- 12Hits 41%

F34, DB4, DF4, EXG, DU4, DB4, DB4. ------ 11Hits 40%


MID SCREEN (2 Bar)

221, DU4, DB4, EXG, DU4, 4, EXG, 4, Soulsteal. --- 16Hits 45%

221, DU4, DB4, EXG, DU4, 4, EXG, 4, DF4. ---- 16Hits 46%

221, DB4, DF4, EXG, DU4, Move forward, 4, EXG, 4, SoulSteal. ----- 17Hits 45%

221, DB4, DF4, EXG, DU4, Move forward, 4, EXG, 4, DF4. ------- 16Hits 45%

221, DB4, DF4, EXG, DB2, Move forward, 4, EXG, 4, SoulSteal. ------ 17Hits 46%

221, DB4, DF4, EXG, DB2, Move forward, 4, EXG, 4, DF4. ------ 16Hits 45%

F434, DB4 DF4 EXG, DU4, Move forward, 4 EXG, 4 SoulSteal. ----- 17Hits 42%

F434, DB4 DF4 EXG, DU4, Move forward, 4 EXG, 4, DF4. ------- 16Hits 42%

F434, DB4, DF4, EXG, DB2, Move forward, 4 EXG, 4, SoulSteal. ----- 16Hits 45%

F434, DB4, DF4, EXG, DB2, Move forward, 4 EXG, 4, DF4. ------ 16Hits 45%

F34, DB4, DF4, EXG, DU4, Move forward, 4 EXG, 4, DF4. ----- 15Hits 42%

F34, DB4, DF4, EXG, DU4, Move forward, 4 EXG, 4, SoulSteal. ------ 15Hits 42%

F34, DB4, DF4, EXG, DB2, Move forward, 4, EXG, 4, SoulSteal. ------ 15Hits 42%

F34, DB4, DF4, EXG, DB2, Move forward, 4, EXG, 4, DF4. ------- 15Hits 42%


MID SCREEN ( 3 Bars )

221, DU4, DB4, EXG, DU4, 4, EXG, 4, EXG. -------- 17hits 46%

221, DU4, DB4, EXG, DU4, 4, EXG, 4, EX SoulSteal. ------- 17Hits 46%

221, DB4, DF4, EXG, DU4, Move forward, 4, EXG, 4 EX SoulSteal. ------- 17Hits 45%

221, DB4, DF4, EXG, DU4, Move forward, 4, EXG, 4 EXG. -------- 17Hits 45%

221, DB4, DF4, EXG, DB2, Move forward, 4, EXG, 4, EXG. ------- 17Hits 45%

221, DB4, DF4, EXG, DB2, Move forward, 4, EX SoulSteal. ------- 17Hits 45%

F434, DB4, DF4, EXG, DU4, Move forward, 4, EXG, 4, EXG. ------ 17Hits 42%

F434, DB4, DF4, EXG, DU4, Move forward, 4, EXG, 4, EX SoulSteal. ----- 17Hits 42%

F434, DB4, DF4, EXG, DB2, Move forward, 4, EXG, 4, EXG. ----- 17Hits 42%

F434, DB4, DF4, EXG, DB2, Move forward, 4, EXG, 4, EX SoulSteal. ---- 17Hits 42%

F34, DB4, DF4, EXG, DU4, Move forward, 4, EXG, 4, EXG. -----16Hits 42%

F34, DB4, DF4, EXG, DU4, Move forward, 4, EXG, 4, EX SoulSteal. ----- 16Hits 42%

F34, DB4, DF4, EXG, DB2, Move forward, 4, EXG, 4, EXG. --------- 16hits 42%

F34, DB4, DF4, EXG, DB2, Move forward, 4, EXG, 4, EX SoulSteal. --------- 16hits 42%

(With these 2 bar combos, and 3 bar, when you're about to launch the EXG try to make the EXG low as possible to the ground when lauching it, this will make the combo much easier to do... as you will not have to move forward.

These are some good combos for now, i'll be going over many things... I'll explain why the B1214 string is awful mid screen, and how to use it. Wall combos, resets, traps, more soon to come. There are many combos, I hope to go over many of them, or at least try to, IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT A SPECIFIC COMBO, LEAVE A COMMENT ABOUT IT.
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HAHA SIGMAR lol u took the time to do all this but good job
 
Dat Al

Dat Al

Stay Frosty
On the subject of frame trapping, what is the go to string/special combination? I'm guessing 221 and F434, but does it matter whether the string is finished with upskull or ground skull in order to maintain advantage? Also, is soulsteal a safe option to end a string with?
 
Sigmar

Sigmar

Ex Mortis
Dat Al said:
On the subject of frame trapping, what is the go to string/special combination? I'm guessing 221 and F434, but does it matter whether the string is finished with upskull or ground skull in order to maintain advantage? Also, is soulsteal a safe option to end a string with?
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221, DU4


and ss is safe for it
Edit, traps... :(

though many fast people can escape after the 221, (reptile dash, Nw charge)

usually the du4 for this.
 
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