Invincible Salads
Seeker of knowledge
f4, 1, d2 hellspark mb run f4 can't be interrupted? i don't even run depending on how close they are, i just kinda inch forward and do it.
and u said that can't be interrupted?
112 Hell Sparks MB 1st hit run into f41d 2 CAN'T be interrupted either. Why would it be if it is the same 2 frame link.
F41d2xxHell Sparks MB 1st hit, run xx f41d2 can not be interrupted if done right. Without the short run you will be interrupted. With the run the f4 comes out faster at the space you need it to be. MB HS always pushes you back at the same distance, if you are not running into f4 it comes out like 2 frames slower and is interruptable by armor.
It is -4 on blocki hate how people are saying that dark beam needs a nerf too. its good that its +8 on hit and -5 on block, no different than lao's low hat really. and he's a zoner for crying outloud he deserves good projectiles. let the character live a little jeez
He shouldn't get nerfed at all.
Well I expect a good amount of changes...like his F4,1,D2 to be more negative on block...his projectile to get toned down a bit...and maybe a heavy nerf to EX Spark. All speculation of course, but who knows...
I don't really want him to get nerfed either because I'm a day 1 Shinnok main, but his options after F41D2xxDB
On hit he's at +8, the only thing guaranteed is f4, which is a low block. The OH is risky and generally not worth it unless you need a comeback. After f4 you do the combo, f4 1 d2 xx DB for 4% chip, which means his one bar BnB is 34-35%. If you end with MB HellSpark, you get 9.10% (if you follow up with f4 1 d2 xx DB), but it costs a bar. So 2 bars for 39-40%. Each time you do f4 1 d2 xx MB HS that's 5.10%, so you could do 44-45% for 3 bars, which is not at all broken or needing to be nerfed.
I'm not talking about the restand. Thats fair.
After a Dark Beam is blocked, Shinnok is at -4. Meaning the opponent can make a read now and isn't locked into block strings. If you read another f4, you can easily jump and punish it. Or you can armor through it. Or you can backdash it. Not being able to poke means you shouldn't try to poke, there's other options to beat an 11 frame gap window. And there's plenty of characters that have moves quicker than 11 frames and can reach shinnok to beat out f4 after a blocked dark beam.
most the cast being forced to make a read after blocking the string is ok then.
Boneshaper. It's the easiest to learn and also the best variation.
Easily Boneshaper Shinnok. In theory, all you need to know are his f41d2 Ex HS blockstring and Bnbs into restand.
"Shinnok" in general won't get nerfed at all, or at least shouldn't be getting nerfed. I'll assume you mean just Bone Shaper since it's the only real candidate for nerfing for obvious reasons in which case I've no idea how he'll be nerfed. It's hard to say what'll happen because even though we suggest one thing on TYM they usually end up changing something else entirely or they change two things where we only asked for one lol. We could assume they'll make F41D2 and/or BF1 more unsafe but they might also change the hit advantage of BF1 or god knows what else.
Tomorrow?! Where'd you find that out?
I don't think it'll be that bad...to some, maybe so.
Where'd you hear that? But i'm expecting him to get nerfed slightly in boneshaper, hopefully nothing universal
Just guessing. I think NRS are releasing the patch at the beginning of the month, which would be tomorrow.
