DubiousShenron
Beware my power.
I'm doneHis recovery on the fireball gives you some breathing room and you have to aim the floor laser
I'm doneHis recovery on the fireball gives you some breathing room and you have to aim the floor laser
batmanquestion for everyone who complains about zoning. other then deadshot who is actually zoning you out for the whole game?
That was my 3rd suggestion.I know certain picks do have very hard times getting in, I rather them "adjust" their kits (not the zoners) to assist in getting in instead of nerfing zoners across the board. I have a feeling that's why your getting so much backlash OP, in general you don't want to break something to fix something.
#buff don't nerf
We've established Firestorm is legit already don't worry lolwho is zoning you out please tell me. because I swear to god if someone says they're being zoned out by someone like firestorm I'm gonna give up on humanity
there is a difference between zoning and defensive play. aquaman and adam are not zoning anyone out lolWe've established Firestorm is legit already don't worry lol
Batman
Adam
Aquaman
Deadshot
I hesitate to call some of these guys zoners but that's just how stacked their kits are. You either need to get everyone else up to speed (Super Injustice 2 Turbo when?) or tone this shit down
Mixing people to death is easy compared to not being mixed to death.I see, reading comprehension is hard to come by on TYM. I'll break it down for you.
As in. Zoning someone to death is actually EASY compared to NOT being zoned to death. This is due to several game systems not working as intended. If they were to fix these systems then dealing with zoning with be a challenge instead of a war of attrition.
We've established Firestorm is legit already don't worry lol
Batman
Adam
Aquaman
Deadshot
I hesitate to call some of these guys zoners but that's just how stacked their kits are. You either need to get everyone else up to speed (Super Injustice 2 Turbo when?) or tone this shit down
FTD spam is defensive? :/ feels like he outzones dr. Fate to me in that MU but anyways...there is a difference between zoning and defensive play. aquaman and adam are not zoning anyone out lol
If you can't get in on aquaman from full screen I don't know what to tell you. Weather or not aquaman is to good and has a ton of winning matchups is a different issue but in terms of pure zoning he's not keeping you out the whole gameFTD spam is defensive? :/ feels like he outzones dr. Fate to me in that MU but anyways...
Moving on, I think it's more of a character toolkit issue. I was a massive fan of Knicks' goro in mkx, and he is the reason I learned Swamp thing, but the fact knicks drops a character because of its inability to counter zoning and open people up is an issue.
Been playing a fair bit of fate and I can confidently say his zoning is fine, but only against certain characters. Others (swampy, grodd, scarecrow, etc) get bodied hard, with minimal effort on my part. His up close game sucks baaad, and characters like batman blow him up for sure imo.
I mean, watch a couple of RHS with coach steve's grodd and even though his grodd is hype AF, it still gets drowned by zoning ... alot. He is a complicated character, but gets beat by keep away 8/10 times by sometimes mediocre zoning.
Zoning is ok tbh, but MB roll needs some tweaks, and rushdown characters with no answers for hard zoning need to be looked at
Disagree with me or not, I raised some very good points
Never said I couldn't, even swamp thing can punish FTD spam from full screen. I was stating that many aquaman use FTD as a full screen pressure tool, not a defensive mechanic, and that FTD can beat hard zoning, at least in my experience but that might just be meIf you can't get in on aquaman from full screen I don't know what to tell you. Weather or not aquaman is to good and has a ton of winning matchups is a different issue but in terms of pure zoning he's not keeping you out the whole game
From the deep is really just meant to check your movement not keep you out. It's really good against zoners tho but the character as a whole is a defensive characterNever said I couldn't, even swamp thing can punish FTD spam from full screen. I was stating that many aquaman use FTD as a full screen pressure tool, not a defensive mechanic, and that FTD can beat hard zoning, at least in my experience but that might just be me