MK for EVO 2011?!?

Discussion in 'EVO Championship Series' started by AK Juggs, Jan 7, 2010.

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  1. 9.95

    9.95 Lead Moderator Staff Member

    You're absolutely right... you can plan for perfection, but if you don't have a contingency... or at the very least, plan for more and(at least for now) expect that some of them won't show, that's still ok. Right now we usually hope for 10-15 for each local and shoot for 20 for the majors... we had 22(but a legit 15) at Play N Trade and 19 at NECX(when there were easily 21-22 players in the house).

    I def. appreciate you taking the time to respond though... this is all necessary if we're going to work toward this... this is called communication, people.
  2. STORMS

    STORMS "I said... shake, rattle and roll!" Staff Member

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    is this play-n-trade place in NY? when's this taking place?

    edit: n/m... smithtown, ny, right?
  3. Dark_Rob

    Dark_Rob Lead Moderator Staff Member

    Play-n-Trade is a chain. The particular one he was reffering to was the one from last weekend in Smithtown, Long Island.
  4. AK Juggs

    AK Juggs Lose without excuses Staff Member

    With enough money and man power, this can be done. However, I agree that we need to start small and then build up. MK gets a bad rap. MK games and the community are looked down upon. The only respectful people are UMK3 players and the game itself. At least this is what I have perceived. Now the part about MK games being bad, there's really nothing we can do about that. The only thing we can do is tell them why they are good, or what good aspects they have. Like 9.95 said, education.

    Another thing about education I thought would be nice is teaching. If more people knew how to play MK games, there would be a lot more interest. I am not suggesting everyone go out and find players and teach them individually, albeit you can do this. One idea is through YouTube. I saw this on SRK and thought it was a good idea. We can post match videos of top players, and put in commentary of the match. What's going on, what the players are trying to do, etc. For example what UltraDavid did for SFIV here: . Some tutorial videos would also be very helpful.

    Another thing we can do is start hosting tournaments. Hosting them ourselves. MK would be the main titles, and we could have other games there as well. The problem is finding people in your area that likes MK. This can be done by visiting the various gaming websites. Such as MKU, MKE, CMK, SRK, etc. See what MK games they like/play.

    As far as the big picture, Evo for MK, this is a goal we all should have. Hopefully, MK9 is good. If so, this may be a lot easier. In any case, keep the ideas coming.
  5. AK Juggs

    AK Juggs Lose without excuses Staff Member

    With enough money and man power, this can be done. However, I agree that we need to start small and then build up. MK gets a bad rap. MK games and the community are looked down upon. The only respectful people are UMK3 players and the game itself. At least this is what I have perceived. Now the part about MK games being bad, there's really nothing we can do about that. The only thing we can do is tell them why they are good, or what good aspects they have. Like 9.95 said, education.

    Another thing about education I thought would be nice is teaching. If more people knew how to play MK games, there would be a lot more interest. I am not suggesting everyone go out and find players and teach them individually, albeit you can do this. One idea is through YouTube. I saw this on SRK and thought it was a good idea. We can post match videos of top players, and put in commentary of the match. What's going on, what the players are trying to do, etc. For example what UltraDavid did for SFIV here: . Some tutorial videos would also be very helpful.

    Another thing we can do is start hosting tournaments. Hosting them ourselves. MK would be the main titles, and we could have other games there as well. The problem is finding people in your area that likes MK. This can be done by visiting the various gaming websites. Such as MKU, MKE, CMK, SRK, etc. See what MK games they like/play.

    As far as the big picture, Evo for MK, this is a goal we all should have. Hopefully, MK9 is good. If so, this may be a lot easier. In any case, keep the ideas coming.
  6. EGP Wonder_Chef

    EGP Wonder_Chef Earth's Mightiest Mortal (Kombat Player)

    Something I was thinking about on a similar note last night:

    Is there a dedicated MK Wiki? I think that would be a huge addition to the community.

    I understand that there's one for the story and character history, but nothing really game related.
  7. Tim Static

    Tim Static ULTRAAAA KOMBO Staff Member

    UltimateMK.com has one for UMK3, and the guides and starts are THE wiki for UMK3. I've also been getting some stuff ready to propose to Mr Wizard aka Joey Cuellar about adding UMK3 to the SRK wiki.
  8. EGP Wonder_Chef

    EGP Wonder_Chef Earth's Mightiest Mortal (Kombat Player)

    AFAIK, the SRK wiki is still down right now from when they updated SRK to 4.0

    But yea, good idea.
  9. STORMS

    STORMS "I said... shake, rattle and roll!" Staff Member

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    this seriously needs a big bump. If you guys are serious MK fans and believe that we need a shot @ EVO... we have got to make our voices heard. MKDC, UMK3, MK9... etc, are all EVO quality. Have you seen Melty Blood? C'mon now... MK needs to be there.

    Discuss!
  10. Tim Static

    Tim Static ULTRAAAA KOMBO Staff Member

    oh, plans are already made involving MK one way or another at EVO 2011, and yes, I will be there too.

    I've been talking to Mr Wizard, admin of SRK and one of the guys behind EVO. keep supporting MK on SRK too.

    ummmmmm, no.
  11. STORMS

    STORMS "I said... shake, rattle and roll!" Staff Member

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    MK. Period. Stop shitting on MKDC. It certainly looks better than Melty Blood.

  12. ZAQ

    ZAQ On Leave

    I doubt they would even allow MKDC to be there, especially when there will be a newer, better game out. UMK3 would probably be allowed because it has been getting noticed lately and a top SF player plays it. MKDC couldn't even get the game at a tourney (FUMBLLLLLLLLLLLLE!), or a setup, let alone players to play it at NEC. And that was waaay closer to its release date.
  13. Tim Static

    Tim Static ULTRAAAA KOMBO Staff Member

    I wouldnt travel 10 minutes to play it, it sucks, and i would rather play Melty Blood and thats sad. Just because its MK doesnt mean its quality and should be exalted. Doing so would embarrass the people that have worked so hard to put MK where its at now.
  14. STORMS

    STORMS "I said... shake, rattle and roll!" Staff Member

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    Come mk9. .. I'm gonna get my own setup for Xanadu. Games.in balt, MD.
    I'm done arguing about mkdc. .. LOL.
  15. MKF30

    MKF30 We Are Many,You Are But 1 Premium Supporter

    LOL@Melty Blood...wow, if that game made it just saying MK4 and MKDC could easily be there...

    But at this point I'd really like to hear about UMK3 and MK9 or either being there.

    Evo should have a thing where a certain amount of votes have to be heard/mailed or something in order for a game to qualify, I mean Melty Blood? Really? I never even heard of this game until this thread lol
  16. AC1984

    AC1984 Kaballin!

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    Guys, the idea is good, but I prefer to stay little bit more patient and wait until spring of 2011....UMK3 is getting a lot of attention but it is not gonna make it to EVO by it self....maybe as side-game to MK9....MkDc looks very very good...but that is mostly its strengths. Actually...UMK3 will make it to EVO if there is a good scene for it...and right now the places where ultimate is being played offline are mostly New Jersey, Long Island, Ohio and Philly....There needs to be a lot more than that.

    P.S. Melty Blood is a ridiculous game...shity art, shit sound and shity anime type of vision....
  17. 9.95

    9.95 Lead Moderator Staff Member

    The one thing I will give Melty is that it's got 2 things... a good scene/good following and apparently, it's got good gameplay that isn't broken.

    We can crap on Melty all we want, but the game has survived many years and endured a long process of being brought to the forefront of attention by its followers who started, much the same way we are with Mortal Kombat. Melty also doesn't have different player properties for identical characters based on whether you choose p1 or p2... again, this is important in a good game.
  18. Check

    Check Well-Known Member

    that is all. carry on.

    p.s - support UMK. not MK9.
  19. EGP Wonder_Chef

    EGP Wonder_Chef Earth's Mightiest Mortal (Kombat Player)

    Ok going to address two different topics here:

    1. To those of you dissing Melty Blood you are totally fucking ignorant, Melty is a really good game with a huge following. Don't judge it just because you've never played it.

    2. Sorry guys, but you need to stop trying for UMK3. I don't care how much you like UMK3, it will never make it to Evo as a main event. Ever. Honestly, there are what, like 40 dedicated offline players in the US? And how many of those will travel to Evo? Sorry, but be serious guys, UMK3 isn't ever getting revived. The only way you can see MK at Evo at ALL is to push MK9 as hard as you possibly can. It has got to get some hype, just ride that.
  20. Dark_Rob

    Dark_Rob Lead Moderator Staff Member

    Dude wtf? What rock have you been living under? You must have missed the UMK3 streams from
    East Coast Throwdown 2, Road to Evo and Lake Erie Summer Slam. Not to worry you can catch the
    next stream from GVN Summer Jam on August 15th.
    UMK3 is hyper than its ever been. Dont pretend to know what your talking about here because you
    dont. Your not part of it and you have no idea what we can do with UMK3. Maybe if we are feeling
    generous and MK9 is good enough we will bring it along for the ride.
  21. 9.95

    9.95 Lead Moderator Staff Member



    This is exactly what I meant when I said back in January, but don't say "Yeah, I'm in, I'm down" and then not be willing to work... if you're going to commit to helping the cause... then go balls to the wall... or don't bother to post in this thread.


    I don't know why you're crapping on the best game that the MK series has to offer, but rest assured, no matter how good MK9 is, UMK3 will be better and I can give you an easy 5 page essay as to why(though I will spare you the reading time...LOL). MK9, if it's even good(remember who's making it), still already looks like it's nothing more than a slightly revamped MKDC, will be riding on the coattails of the current UMK3 success. While there are alot of people who aren't playing UMK3, by comparison, to SSF4, what makes you, or anyone else think that those same people are going to flock to MK9 just because it doesn't have Superman in it? It's going to take some MK hype to get people playing MK9....and since the only MK being requested by tournament directors and organizers is UMK3...guess whose shoulders that hype falls squarely on? The exact same people you just told to STFU and stop supporting UMK3.

    MK9 isn't even out yet and you're blindly devoting yourself to it's hype. Lets wait on it before we jump on it like many of us(including myself) did with the MKDC bandwagon.

    So to everyone else, keep supporting UMK3... tournaments can, and will develop at local and major tournaments in the area. The hype for UMK3 is continuing to grow. UMK3 is up on stream at major tournaments, being requested by directors and organizers, and getting massive attention and hype. I said back in January that this was going to be a long hard road....but it's that much closer now. We're making waves, getting noticed.... Melty would not be here in the US, not to mention at major tournaments if it weren't for the dedicated hard core crew they had who did the exact same thing with their game. We'll explore MK9 when it's time comes... UMK3 is in the spotlight now, and if you aren't gonna get on the train, then get the hell off the tracks because we're not stopping.
  22. Krayzie

    Krayzie Safeties disabled. Krayzie mode engaged! Staff Member

    This entire community is confused. The point in reference to Melty Blood wasnt to bash it, it was for everybody to see what the community can do to a game, and the pointless arguments we have with eachother that keep us where we currently are.

    At this point in time, we are doing good with UMK3, and MK9's hype. There is a big chance that we can get it hosted at Evo. All we need is support.

    Anything is possible. If we have a large following, then the game will be recognized. And for those of you who are trying to push MK9 out of bounce, then keep UMK3, I will support MK9 as an evolution worthy tournament game. If you don't want to be part of it, then so be it. Let it be 2 completely different games, let Melty Blood push their scene, UMK3, and MK9 have theirs.

    I'm sorry guys, I grew up with UMK3, and I would love to see a scene for it, but myself personally... I will not play that 600 year old game competitively. If others and myself want to have MK9 up there too, then get the fuck out the way. We arent stopping.
  23. Dark_Rob

    Dark_Rob Lead Moderator Staff Member

    I see no reason why UMK3 and MK9 could not be supported by the same scene, providing MK9 is actually tournament worthy.(Which by no means has been proven yet, where as UMK3 has.) In fact I think the community will be stronger as a whole if we stick together. But none of us are doing what we are doing with UMK3 on the east coast so it can just build up the hype for MK9. UMK3 stands on its own, the growing hype and its being embraced both at tournaments and on the streams proves this.
    My problem with Chef's statements wasnt that he wanted to support MK9, hell I want to support MK9 and I will do so if its worthy of it. But when he says things like "Sorry, but be serious guys, UMK3 isn't ever getting revived", well thats just not true because its already been revived and is stronger than ever.
    Also I dont believe a game being old has anything to do with whether its good or not. MVC2 is old and it is still played at tourneys.SSF2T was old and was being played right up until HDR succeeded it.(And HDR is basically ST with a new coat of paint.) UMK3's age is more a testament to its staying power. The game is just that good. And believe me I had to be shown that. I didnt just take any ones word on it. I saw it for myself and was hooked.
    From my point of view the community isnt confused. On the contrary I think our course is clearer than its ever been.
  24. 9.95

    9.95 Lead Moderator Staff Member

    Very well stated.... heed these words people
  25. Krayzie

    Krayzie Safeties disabled. Krayzie mode engaged! Staff Member

    I never said that UMK3 being old had anything to do with anything besides my personal dislike to compete on it. Which again, I will not. The only reason I will support, play and host tournaments is for the purpose of getting MK heard here on the West Coast. UMK3 is just not my game, sorry.

    The point here is the entire community has to stop bashing games like if it means something. All you guys have to do is stick together, scream MK and show up.

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