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Question - Erron Black Is Erron too strong?

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  • Gunslinger

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MadeOfMetal

Kenshi Srubtastic,Cyrax, Special Forces Mains
Yeah, bottom ten might be exaggerating but these nerfs did hurt quite a bit.
yes they did hurt.. but im excited to see what sonic does to make him look top tier.. he might even pick up marksman with those supposed plus cancels.

it might level out with the universal throws work on hit meta... that might make a few strings like, 211, 11B+3, F24. work on hit.. im sure he lost F12 forever though.. and it seems the startup boost on Sand trap didnt hurt him that much either...

like i said im excite to see where he stands a month from now, assuming all this carries.
 

stamatis

Όσα δε φτάνει η αλεπού. ........
A girl mains Erron and her boyfriend says that he is broken.I need to see this.
 

Ayyjayyy

DevilApes
yes they did hurt.. but im excited to see what sonic does to make him look top tier.. he might even pick up marksman with those supposed plus cancels.

it might level out with the universal throws work on hit meta... that might make a few strings like, 211, 11B+3, F24. work on hit.. im sure he lost F12 forever though.. and it seems the startup boost on Sand trap didnt hurt him that much either...

like i said im excite to see where he stands a month from now, assuming all this carries.
Armor option select the first 1 in 211 and 11b3 string is straight up abysmal. Marksman cancels haven't changed so they're still minus or neutral.
 

CaptainCM

Certified trash
Seems like your boyfriend is on the more casual side of MKX. EB has good tools to overwhelm someone who lacks match-up knowledge and is unwilling to learn. If he can't deal with 21122 into tick throw or f13 shenanigans, the ass-whooping will never stop.
 

stamatis

Όσα δε φτάνει η αλεπού. ........
TYM becomes couples therapy.



Judging by the profile pic and the user profile saying male, I think you didn't take it right... unless you mean the gaming term G.I.R.L (guy in real life).
Excuse me I didn't see the profile,I thought there was a boy and a girl.
My apologies @Misky
 

omooba

fear the moobs
So me and my boyfriend have been arguing... Is Erron black too strong? My boyfriend gets real mad when i play him and complains he has every tool (which I won't argue too much with) but I don't think Erron is too strong, strong for sure but not so strong I'd call him broken like my boyfriend argues, he really despises him across all variations. So yeah what do you think? Too strong? Fine? and also why? What are his weaknesses? Does he have any?
what tools? lmao what variation? lmao he's ass. tell your bf to start option selecting 21122. he'll have such a better time dealing with him
 

omooba

fear the moobs
Yes, and it promotes that scrubby philosophy every new member is bringing with them to the site. First thing they do when they join here is make a thread or profile post about the game's balance.
bruh chill
you're definitely just being bogus
 

xxFalcon Loverxx

Ignorant slaves, how quickly you forget.
So me and my boyfriend have been arguing... Is Erron black too strong? My boyfriend gets real mad when i play him and complains he has every tool (which I won't argue too much with) but I don't think Erron is too strong, strong for sure but not so strong I'd call him broken like my boyfriend argues, he really despises him across all variations. So yeah what do you think? Too strong? Fine? and also why? What are his weaknesses? Does he have any?
Sorry to tell you, but your boyfriend is a scrub then lolIn the beta erron black is considered Lower mid tier in this game there is no way whatsoever that erron is broken...:D
 
If his nerfs in the beta are permanent, he is now a bottom ten character.
Yet sonic fox, Reo, and other REAL top players will still whoop everyone's ass with him. Sounds like it has more to do with the player's then the character. No matter what they do to any character, wither its erron black, or any other character. Wither they nerf them to hell, or buff them to a god, will not change how much most of you will still suck with him. He can be buffed to unstopable god tier, and still will be stopped if picked up by most of you whine babies on this, and every other crybaby forum.
 

Sage Leviathan

I'm platinum mad!
Yet sonic fox, Reo, and other REAL top players will still whoop everyone's ass with him. Sounds like it has more to do with the player's then the character. No matter what they do to any character, wither its erron black, or any other character. Wither they nerf them to hell, or buff them to a god, will not change how much most of you will still suck with him. He can be buffed to unstopable god tier, and still will be stopped if picked up by most of you whine babies on this, and every other crybaby forum.
Your consistent use of the word "wither" is actually bothering me.

EDIT: I just checked your profile and we joined TYM on the exact same day. What the fuck.
 

xxFalcon Loverxx

Ignorant slaves, how quickly you forget.
Yet sonic fox, Reo, and other REAL top players will still whoop everyone's ass with him. Sounds like it has more to do with the player's then the character. No matter what they do to any character, wither its erron black, or any other character. Wither they nerf them to hell, or buff them to a god, will not change how much most of you will still suck with him. He can be buffed to unstopable god tier, and still will be stopped if picked up by most of you whine babies on this, and every other crybaby forum.
The beta isn't even out yet, i don't see anybody winning with erron (beta erron) Because the patch changes aren't confirmed yet nor is the beta available for tourneys because the full cast isn't in the beta yet.You say it as if you're better than everyone else on here mate, you're probably just as bad as the rest of us here.
Nerfing a character that isn't broken whatsoever makes no sense.[NEWSFLASH]
 
The beta isn't even out yet, i don't see anybody winning with erron (beta erron) Because the patch changes aren't confirmed yet nor is the beta available for tourneys because the full cast isn't in the beta yet.You say it as if you're better than everyone else on here mate, you're probably just as bad as the rest of us here.
Nerfing a character that isn't broken whatsoever makes no sense.[NEWSFLASH]
Key word was (WILL) win with him. Even if they keep the game in its current state, sonicfox and other top players will still go ham with him as time goes on, while you and others will continue to want buffs, while still getting your asses kicked. Remember before when erron got so called nerfed bad the first time? People like you was saying the samething if not worse, then sonicfox ended up winning esl season two with him. And he beat perfect legend with him on top of that. And hell yea i am bad, infact i might be the worst player here when it comes to this game. But i am also not on this forum crying and complaining about my character, asking for buffs that will not do nothing but still get you owned. Buffs do not help you stop getting your ass kicked, actually knowing how to play the game/character stops that. http://data:image/webp;base64,UklGRiANAABXRUJQVlA4IBQNAABwVACdASrcABIBPw18sE+pJiOiJzMrGSghiedu4XCA/p5doOTabUeNYq/nPtJyMbOHtVl6ftPOzTE/SPYG/THpJ6GtRLpXegj+25a+ZS9W8L2UmpNSaWiEQ2mw5Yo/GxeVu1CVHrnKf+7aEpoCV/A6JdXjiDS/cVgdOF+NoFtsBo1OhDM6PNEPY2lQbDSdmsedw6tZkAe8CK5ObY5LvTUhQv6ZM+8gPIkf2tuLkbKVMtj3aT2KQWOrPKzPPFqqkfXIuLp+0C3zLB5oYIx1GzVSDcpDLYmh4yMpUsE48abtESXKtmw/RbLxFCCP6S2z4VZU+93ahqNIikB2nzdfxnLQrxe2/JBTH3zXSrkIarQFBLBg/KWkZJ9+bqfmVZjlwfqNcV5Ryk6UTDjQvGoKaU7nySeVEd007Nyr5B5fHMB4HF11tQne0/uFPvknoll3U6mBitRSpJUb+y47er3Ybvkp3q1f4YDRvyXuDnTIbRAftH2Up39AeNhqqHzrIfw2jStfyexLQ1uQn03lcvaUx/jyOYA+VXIQy/uGUbQTTkzf3qzqsxLdmR7O9s/6KSTy2bgMaTUD8pDNJFFSq3sVbUOrJ7Yfxu+Dnu/kDj9J2Xjvj8uyHUPi7uBYkvqWV7JirnEDQ4NR7+VwMowh1Mff3F0UzBqc5VZYAElN0ymr4Wyk2bpUe3gXhLakqIs4aUrPhcODUe7o3Vlq/YbeZmKVXNMQFhCUCvq6g0ils3A/561SuK6LZW7bUOFMAk5/MwRyIl/oNv5MvAUcLX0dmXLRNWf+8BT1oYovaO4ayasEhajzC/mRItaHtcY2rJDI7nUzISqnDd6TnTpn8dfJyvlQZPCEJp2b2RUtABau6UgSMdL7Z8Jc74P5FmUtNP/A7Q0Qjg4/p+nXuH0I7PO9uAAA/uTQ8/btnHWUpVtfAMW54Va8y7MNXRMulLPlPZz4Kb5Eaqv/ZiXVcQ0tHHRSWQpFu03681OQGhJE52hLJDk+FE+L4ZQiLuzeMHOeoWxsdAEeSaR689rbZzFHSlUhn2V/J+g9c0v8Qtzrkh6CQK+2+/mftXdUu4GZ9j3E74Li5etXcznUdaNUtbMeLeC/lXf4OERMNQ3rNWpzC1mKlC1hs+Izs3bGD8lZirP1H1oc3lOAUitBthdJ56nEef3jLxH59Q+potQW6Wax67mjXXyJsLqgegrhQW+Bsx+14EPe3gPcS5mK6xRjldzgGpuLab/8O9jBxRjIrhNKPqx2dAS8Rz8lfGVV414o8gSrify6uOeKlciFwa8t9TaariQQMq0ZHUCucl5ApYV4oCX5f/H0miFkzJGXB4ZoWxGP/myOc98oqBj9RcLGQmSbpak8VJWtPIm7rAwFFBiROtBcSzj820lEG5AlDZGuJ12oAaJklP5eaHQ+w+FN8CjeTSsawbHqpBgO9ecIqcyaJGKSncw0TNvfAQEHhX7ZzeMDUneq4hkurPMtk56OXQ0TmnaupvyPEX2jviIn6pwE1MUVtA64ZguzJjvN63auNiFaNWkMDK5pXX4WHkyxBKyEA1uB4tCf+sybILM+BdCH1FQtn0XQ2e5Cm+aLWARiRCCcDN0E4JElTDVA30OdTT16Drr0o56W7en0Plan3QpHcg36kAu9vF0eVVfs4mOo/RYxPCdaiXcJE2cWnW0gOfEQ8s50O4xsL9/ZyshMW2GDg5SYzgu332A+tbFcirzX4ojJS4tC79YvkupBaEng3hiyKuKC0hMY9T/h0N89PhitL+WTJisqvMor4sZOCNfgHjao43UGHAwuPYZFEz5E/X3w1vb6Q0+YbW0cS4FVRmo5TZrXzhFbRfDuSfg1/sFwZEqVL1WorVNmAg4/DguIWiqGC4VYQqEYqYO1QOEwCItaWs6lQBd4Z7Kz8TdKMyoiIbWNjBKk5kU+WDM+v83hFhgONULJtJD8trxbOGA2zvzdBwY9RQjH5nQd3I7k9Y6aYxL0sZE6yBHnacvIx+BWtsLq1Rqor1K1L5aFhX65Q3pPc+PcWPKEcY7Mtt6xMSFe8INS/uK4+cRl8hZ2dz8/jt0GADZB07UjIZzdMzTZqWt1vV2lg097cd98g9LNsl3zSuGuUD9bn6XKlxjx110YbsE1Ap46EgwsVIUXwkwPCmsJEcZwv84yE2V49te4wdcfN9tFz7zz7EFensgRH/2GETxf1ngzRb6pkCDfsg7Mk5ENyuao3U3DvW2bPmZ8CApP5iiXYReibV/pOA/rnKKnUmbYBtsu+80bla+J53kNps6sQ/agdSE9R9TnRFH76laX0JNshFZ169d+Gm+mUx90tZSTkw51KE3kbcUMcLSczJf3QlkdKJq1tQBbjX/sWr/vZ1TAbyQPcs060MQCMCZWAoH6RkdRhz9GXcKFrRjekVcSG8J6Wb8anStMwK98K4bTJ8ZKQC+YCI/8DsbLnjaTtiMABVSClRzy+0URxMNegh4GcdioK8XTs8nPF7yUykdsk6MOG5SGBTS2op2UwYrVQ/8hStegMN99Qlra1jXsMOePYlqtT6R3UW0uks+w1WgMtwJ8HJBFnOvL4HlOfsvhO9nrApyScVNYFpGtoRwelzshP9s+N51J+3FuT8mZeTwrwqwVttecyyFXGXzgDU04YlZ4XDIiEqx6ZUtRj+qQyAopT1oRM++6ewxCd0Bq4Hri3KswNdrd0X8XSQVoe+09Uiy64hcZkNxhPxhr8Sn0ZxQDilWcRw5/ai9PqkW82bMnKQHFRq+5y0xlG0CbcY0HF0dfGalF0s6fsx43P/xDPThzWbXKYxC3Fh++PCM/qK6G1FqZ8riR7BTPx2L540Mg/ZBbNhX7q0vp3GbuTmhlA+e8MLkm3LKkwmE3+Yg+SMf9OJgIMpbKwFl3othnY14LvGluqCODqEfliiHYBflxGBCgRN4aO69KXvYq4UiLljJ2x0GL/zJcXccx7oQ34V7T09SLg9j2PxEexuRiLRJlDJJjiNKTgYNPPREr4ohLaVlNlX8H0bmVbAmfOrHgjmEUBHcU914nHLsYSaKhLhvbn2pPdpIeWZm5VpLVbs6xyQ3n0jMO9uxYZykQBmZanrK7LrBjgdYGBwytcxFEWZ5e1BLNMeJJchDXwENicwXYW5yH4NojivA0/vQUkDNgcEL+3X9BGZ/eWBVhwTetmQx1qE8Rk41ocNurbgIapLv17D4+JP37z/LsBhrterIQyDakx1BL2SsOq2AuJP+8IksWGqBUPIDYixIlMOxuXfzmqaAh/UNFnawOAWFflMSadcwX3K092TTLYe3nReesgWPPqiGmHebU02Tq7rUxC0TWAXdO6yvDmrymhiqjvtcEORx5q9dv1gEl/j0kLxHIZ2n9vvOpciJll7SYva66Th4U2wtp1hY/oX4b402xGyPshuK6nWed1ti7NxLOfINfpZQ9yuq9f0Bb5LYSmI+6JXQN1Dniqjt+gp8f7CceQNgtyX0Keoe+3IBqwu0p2lUB8fwwmxAyiF1vaYC9ggqNNjgYYXONY0KQ0Sxv3viKaRGkOruW2n7JEFXn0G3CnphzKGaDO05lv9oWg1iYxm0+ReP0O3oJULMMy1+bbVXykprY8ZqKnKsPJbAHa8CC0aky7avMBCTjHj5yK8UiMyczJ0HI3ZcJtZjGCq/udXkopj7wqNX+s3VoP6/bowFyXSnWYEmeoh0tGbgZRBvBe114KEhdbqTRiSoo7MazNu1/yZZFRVaiFftaOel2WMbtgsHHGaW15xzTRSBD3wz8D/XRRPBYkTHUNcnJuMm5PtpVOEzN8fvrqOodsmGQ50XTCgyZ5wI9fJcIKoJ8Uwws60XDpOVPbfHAXSkKrvZI5nLmkGPkxXSbAT2tbluNrA56vuoQ5/zKFwHukHBysgfQ9jk6s650kEESzUTMlQZx9VS+yuSIbDrTAlFo1Wb9zStn5B9mNIutoKx6zt7qTVJoxzEr7b0aqa4N/L/aX6bQJBcEJflA63PiHAm0XxXiaeRaFp7dWT6G9o+kLSDwTBiLceg2CKtlFu+qO8XoVENikTD1blm8tt1kVs8G3g6CoUTbC2jdn5jzeIezlyokGlztZ9AW+neogf4rEODJh4bXCW29sRVVH2sXGzwiM/ure/ewuO955r2AfXv0LfG+JbsfaqP1SQXMsmc/MpgotfHz6fljNyB0A/EYaOqL6tT7FjkR5KxvSJ/FyWQQI52pZpc6f+iZN0grv0iZ8T5jwNN056RgR3ioz5K5utp+CrpwZR8/Mp7owMhO7RIJgMtcAvdoaw+9bQ4zLiAHtnhIbOlVtwEJjnQft8ISH17AQ42sxnkg43q3ikPqaHKL3sYRseBTR6oX1wm2+iczgOaKfX3rXX2UUcbNDc4SGOeeIldU/sz2dWeoZ91eSuaZ6qCiUOI4O9p8Sg28sZED+zm8a88ZYUS0ZQt7NU6Xrwo+YJPAV1ae7rKkpaC6cbmmEbmTv+p/kgbKyNGMAAA=
 
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Dankster Morgan

It is better this way
Yet sonic fox, Reo, and other REAL top players will still whoop everyone's ass with him. Sounds like it has more to do with the player's then the character. No matter what they do to any character, wither its erron black, or any other character. Wither they nerf them to hell, or buff them to a god, will not change how much most of you will still suck with him. He can be buffed to unstopable god tier, and still will be stopped if picked up by most of you whine babies on this, and every other crybaby forum.
Sonicfox played gunslinger for one match in ESL. The vast majority of the ass whippings he's been dealing has been with Ms. Cage. So we will only see less and less of erron because others do what he can but better, and KP2 is gonna be broken as shit. It doesn't mean erron players are bad, it just means that a lot of players don't play him exclusively. No need to get so hostile man.