Shamwow0w0w
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I'm going to go through the thread and catch up today. I was AFK for a minute but I'm back. I'll be updating the OP and replying to comments soon.
wait seriously lol? Well I mean how long does it last though? Can we 50/50 the opponent and combo them long enough for the cloak to wear off so we can vortex them properly?So we are stealing the f...ing invisibility from Predator. If you think that is fine- you are WRONG! You can't even do the Mimicry while you are invisible)
No, it takes too long to expire, about 10 seconds ..wait seriously lol? Well I mean how long does it last though? Can we 50/50 the opponent and combo them long enough for the cloak to wear off so we can vortex them properly?
Well I mean at least it isn't Jason's armourNo, it takes too long to expire, about 10 seconds ..
This is a good question. I will say this, even if the cartwheel kick connects, we appear to be hella safe. My friend was using KJ and I would do f4xxcartwheel kick in training- he couldn't punish it.I haven't used the other Shinnok variations at a decent level. So I'm going to spend a lot of time trying to make this match up work for imposter Shinnok. I'll let you know if I come up with something worth noting.
Also a side note. Can you whiff Kung Jin's cartwheel kick and still recover in time to continue the vortex?
According to the Vortex Options Megathread by Shamwow0w0w, you cannot : (Also a side note. Can you whiff Kung Jin's cartwheel kick and still recover in time to continue the vortex?
You can do jip 321 (or 312 don't remember) cartwheel and stay safeAccording to the Vortex Options Megathread by Shamwow0w0w, you cannot : (
Since Shinnok generally steals EX moves, and EX Cartwheel is -5 according to my MKX Frame Data app, it would appear that a blockstring combo into it by Shinnok should be safe. But I wonder if it is a true blockstring, or perhaps interruptible by armored moves.
thats what I was thinking.The invisibility might be helpful by making it harder to react to the slow overhead. I haven't gotten the chance to mess around with it yet though.
You do know that you can OS armor out of block strings which are not real block strings. So if you start going for chip Predator can just buffer armor in block, and then double tap block just before the next hit of a "blockstring". He will continue blocking if it is a true blockstring and he will armor out if you leave a hole, he doesn't need to see you, just the explosion of MB HS. Plus his invisibility sucks at concealing your actual moves, you can tell what he is doing while invisible:/Stealing invisibility is actually not bad imo. Theory crafting leads me to believe you get a higher chance of opening the opponent up after mimicry, and if you have meter after your bnb then that means you can afford to take risker approaches for higher chip (add an extra jump in punch, run cancel 112 for more chip, scarier mixups, etc).
For Smoke in the corner I got B3,112xxdb1,NJP,F3xxdb1 (31%)KP2/XL characters' moves here we go. These all are meant to end in another mimicry for a vortex while also optimizing damage and stuff WITHOUT meter. These are all post mimicry obviously.
Alien:
Midscreen
B3 F2xxDB1 F2xxDB1. 23%
F4xxDB1 Ji1 F22xxDB1. 26%
Corner
F4xxDB1 NJP Ji3 112xxDB1. 35%
B3 22xxDB1 112xxDB1. 34%
Leatherface:
Midscreen
F4xxDB1 Ji1 312xxDB1. 28%
B3 F22xxDB1 Ji1 312xxDB1. 34%
Corner
F4xxDB1 B3 B3 D1 112xxDB1. 30%
B3 B3 D1 112xxDB1 312xxDB1. 39%
Smoke:
Midscreen
F4xxDB1 NJP Ji1 RCxx112xxDB1 26%
No B3 combos midscreen :'(
Corner
F4xxDB1 NJP Ji3 112xxDB1. 28%
B3 1xxDB1 NJP Ji1 112xxDB1. 29%
Cyber Sub-Zero:
Midscreen
F4xxDB1 Ji2xxDUxxNJP Ji1 F224xxDB1. 27% ( you can switch sides after tricky portal)
B3 F22xxDB1 NJP Ji1 F2xxDB1
Corner
F4xxDB1 back dash Ji2xxDUxxNJP Ji3 112xxDB1. 28%
B3 B3 D1 112xxDB1 NJP F3xxDB1. 34%
Sektor:
Midscreen & Corner
F4xxDB1 112xxDB1. 23%
B3 F224xxDB1 22xxDB1. 31%
(You can run under after F4xxDB1 and still do 112xxDB1 for positioning)
Cyrax:
Midscreen
F4xxDB1 Ji2xxDUxxNJP Jip1 F224xxDB1. 26%
B3 F22xxDB1 NJP Ji1 F2xxDB1. 26%
Corner
F4xxDB1 back dash Ji2xxDUxxNJP Ji3 112xxDB1. 27%
B3 B3 D1 112xxDB1 NJP F3xxDB1. 33%
(Basically the same combos as CBZ but less damage)
Bo Rai Cho:
Unfortunately I couldn't find any combos with his Fart after a F4 or B3 anywhere :'(
Feel free to change anything to make it more optimal and stuff.