scarsunseen
Miley Cyrax®
Not to sound like a jerk, but I leveled up by picking a new main, even though I still love playing as Jacqui
Looks to me like several good points.Good point.
I disagree. I believe you may be biased because you main a midtier character in a game with fairly definitive top tiers. I would argue the only characters that have seen significant deliberate positive change are Kenshi, Kitana, Shinnok who at least at launch were obviously bottom tier and therefore priority. From what I've seen there are others (maybe just Reptile at this point) that still need legitimate buffs to compete.I think considering characters significantly better than her have received buffs, that argument is moot hahaha.
If there are 15-19 characters that are better than you, you are low mid tier at best.I disagree. I believe you may be biased because you main a midtier character in a game with fairly definitive top tiers. I would argue the only characters that have seen significant deliberate positive change are Kenshi, Kitana, Shinnok who at least at launch were obviously bottom tier and therefore priority. From what I've seen there are others (maybe just Reptile at this point) that still need legitimate buffs to compete.
IMO, Jacqui exists in the games ample mid tier, with characters like Ermac, Jason, Sonya, F/T, Takeda, Kano (and others I'm definitely forgetting) who thus far have really only received "fixes" which this community is incapable of distinguishing from legitimate buffs / nerfs. Its a bummer when a bug (or glitch, or oversight) is the deciding factor between a character being good or bad, but no developer (with the opportunity to address it) will leave a known bug in his product, even if it renders a shitty character worse or a good character better.
I don't know but I think it might have been like that originally and deemed too much to give her more opportunities for free mixups off her best normalf121 still does not come out on block. The last hit is an OVERHEAD that only comes out on hit. There is block advantage listed in the frame data. The move itself is practically useless on hit considering she can hitconfirm into bf4 or something else for much better positioning, frame advantage and damage. That seems like a pretty big glitch to me...
Stop with this bullshit. The Mileena community kept quiet and never complained at all and she still got some really nice buffs.you know what helps? Constant whining. It's how characters get nerfed or buffed. If the Jacqui community stays quiet then I'm afraid this character won't ever live in the competitive scene.
Why are you complaining about things that aren't even an issue?If there are 15-19 characters that are better than you, you are low mid tier at best.
While we disagree, on where she is tier list wise I will say this.
f121 still does not come out on block. The last hit is an OVERHEAD that only comes out on hit. There is block advantage listed in the frame data. The move itself is practically useless on hit considering she can hitconfirm into bf4 or something else for much better positioning, frame advantage and damage. That seems like a pretty big glitch to me...
I wanted to know just how bad you guys have it, so I went into training mode with her. B3 is possibly the saddest thing I've ever seen.Jacqui's great movement speed doesn't make up for the lack of range on her normals. Not in the effin' slightest.
She probably can't scratch her own ass without some type of an extension with those T-Rex limbs that they're trying to pass off as arms.
I personally feel that is all she would ever "need" in her current state: a bit more range.
The biggest problem is her lack of a good Rapidly Advancing Normal. RANs are so common in this game that, as I've mentioned before, footsies in this game are sometimes played from 2-3 character lengths away. Jacqui has nothing close.I don't think people realize how ridiculous Jacqui would be with any better normals than she already has in conjunction with her insane movement speed.
B33 is really good toe to toe, its a safe launcher.I wanted to know just how bad you guys have it, so I went into training mode with her. B3 is possibly the saddest thing I've ever seen.
yep, b33 whiffs off a jump-in 1 or 2 most of the time, pretty rad lol.I wanted to know just how bad you guys have it, so I went into training mode with her. B3 is possibly the saddest thing I've ever seen.
hey revolver I've tried reading a thread of this and I've tried asking people but maybe you can do this is there some chance that you can upload some matches of you using high tech because there is literally none on here nor YouTube of this variation being played in an actual match and if there there they have no idea what they're doing not trying to sound harshYou don't have to though. I play Jacqui because I like the character. If you really want to play her you should stick with her
I am not trying to upplay your character or start a debate (although I think 15-19 better is a little egregious). I'm just trying to get you to see the difference between a functional character (FA Jacqui) and a bad one (vanilla Kenshi, Shin, Reptile, Kitana) and express to you that in terms of actual balance patching, one deserves priority over the other.If there are 15-19 characters that are better than you, you are low mid tier at best.
I suspect similar discussions are going on at this very moment at NRS regarding what is a "pretty big glitch" and what isn't, but as I mentioned in my last post; NRS has been raked over the coals MANY TIMES for digging too deep and too greedily with their patches. Jacqui just got a bunch of changes. A wise balancer (who knows he still has 6 or 7 at bats) would wait longer than a single patch to go back to the well.f121 still does not come out on block. The last hit is an OVERHEAD that only comes out on hit. There is block advantage listed in the frame data. The move itself is practically useless on hit considering she can hitconfirm into bf4 or something else for much better positioning, frame advantage and damage. That seems like a pretty big glitch to me...
That's a big lie lol. The early Mileena bitching was kept to the general Mileena thread instead of its own fix my character thread. Just because you didn't see it doesn't mean it wasn't there. Really tired that people keep throwing that out there as an example of a community that doesn't bitch. Every community bitches.Stop with this bullshit. The Mileena community kept quiet and never complained at all and she still got some really nice buffs.
I don't have any unfortunately. I'm mostly staying away from high tech until the combo bug gets fixed (if it does) since I feel it gives FA too much of an advantage without that damage.hey revolver I've tried reading a thread of this and I've tried asking people but maybe you can do this is there some chance that you can upload some matches of you using high tech because there is literally none on here nor YouTube of this variation being played in an actual match and if there there they have no idea what they're doing not trying to sound harsh
If you use Full Auto, there are much better alternative zoning characters, namely Bone Shaper Shinnok and Summoner Quan Chi. I think Pyromancer Tanya is a lot better than Full Auto too.Who would you recommend?
Im sorry, but you're misinformed. Her jabs and pokes have very bad range and this is a problem for her because in most cases she can't punish things because she gets pushed back too far and none of her moves reach. For example, after sub zero's clone smash he's -9 but she actually gets blown up for trying to punish because she can't reach that far.so I went into training mode and now I dont know why you guys are complaining
jacqui's pokes, jab, f12, b14, b2 are all great and probably all you need
also literally everything is plus???
only thing thats worth complaining about is maybe b33 hitbox, but you should be glad your 50/50 into 45% combos is even -5 and easily hit confirm-able to begin with
damn son you went into training mode for 5 minutes and deemed this character not only viable in the current meta but also almost flawless? please tell me and everyone else more about about the character we've used to compete with since the games release.so I went into training mode and now I dont know why you guys are complaining
jacqui's pokes, jab, f12, b14, b2 are all great and probably all you need
also literally everything is plus???
only thing thats worth complaining about is maybe b33 hitbox, but you should be glad your 50/50 into 45% combos is even -5 and easily hit confirm-able to begin with