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That's a good thing.seems like 20 characters are top 5
That's a good thing.seems like 20 characters are top 5
But how will he ever have a good tier list?!That's a good thing.
There's no way Lobo is worse than Doomsday or Nightwing at this point. The other really likely candidates for top 10 characters come down to MMH, Zod, Superman, Adam, Frost, Flash, Lantern, Batgirl, Batman, Wonder Woman and Aquaman. I think Lobo stands a very fair shot of muscling his way past a couple of them in the tiers. If he's not top 10, then he's only just barely missed it.He's much better, a top tier character hardly. Everything that made him better this patch still needs meter and still needs some breathing room to set up traits. It's not like some idiot character that can just throw shit out over and over until it works. His normals are ok but nothing to brag about. If he's top 10 what about Zod and his bitch ghost, Martian Muff Hunter, Superdouche, Wonderwhore, Green Lanturd, Black Asshole, Derpsday, Nightwang, Buttgirl and Fatman. They are still all better than him.
All of Grundy's chains are clash-able. double GR won't be used in a real match. I don't see how he can get to 60% with 20% dmg bonus (unclash-able)This is also wrong. Bane and Grundy have better damage in terms of damage itself. (Grundy having 60% unclashable mid screen if Power Chain is up with double GR and both having 70% transition combos)
In terms of actual viable damage Bane FAR surpasses everybody. For the same amount of bars + traits Bane gets 49% 3 bars and has 59-65% super links.
I would say in terms of unclashable damage he is on par with Raven now. (Who has very good unclashable damage)
you read my post wrong.All of Grundy's chains are clash-able. double GR won't be used in a real match. I don't see how he can get to 60% with 20% dmg bonus (unclash-able)
Grundy got 100% corner resets, and 80% midscreen resets (inescapable, so it's a combo in some way)
Also one good bane once told me that Bane can get 70% combo full meter.
Lobo got a loooong way to go before he can outdamage Grundy and Bane.
I didn't read it wrong, I just said why I don't understand why it's possible to get to 60% unclash-able, if you know please tell me.you read my post wrong.
I didn't mention his grabs outside of using power grab to get that damage later. Double GR is absolutely used in a real match. But I did not say his maximum unclashable damage would be entirely viable,
Who'd you say his bad matchups are now Ketchup?Wouldn't argue he could be top 10, but not top 5. He still has some really rough matchups.
There is no doubt he was the most improved character though, definitely very dangerous now.
Zero to hero lolHe definitely went from zero to hero with this patch. Assuming we have KF, Aqua, MMH, WW, Zod in top 5, there are still a lot of top 10 contenders as well that may be placed against him. Probably top 15, maybe top 10. Game is very balanced now though. It's time to stop focusing on tier placement and start learning matchups. That's all that really matters.
I actually haven't played loads of Injustice lately with a new job I recently got.Who'd you say his bad matchups are now Ketchup?
Everyone has so much stuff to say about the new Lobo, but the matchup discussion is all over the place.
Oh, my bad.I didn't read it wrong, I just said why I don't understand why it's possible to get to 60% unclash-able, if you know please tell me.
Maybe Doomsday I'll give you that, but Nightwing really? He has much faster normals in escrima, decent damage an air projectile, a ground spike special, safe against a lot of characters in staff stance up close because of the speed and range. Do moderate speed 50/50 mix up's a grab starter and a high damage traited special really beat that? plus there's also Flash, Frost Aquaman, top 15 sure, top 10 doubtfulThere's no way Lobo is worse than Doomsday or Nightwing at this point. The other really likely candidates for top 10 characters come down to MMH, Zod, Superman, Adam, Frost, Flash, Lantern, Batgirl, Batman, Wonder Woman and Aquaman. I think Lobo stands a very fair shot of muscling his way past a couple of them in the tiers. If he's not top 10, then he's only just barely missed it.
But Nightwing players themselves rate him as being dead average. He's as mid-tier as it gets by any metric. And the other three characters you named, I already listed. Twelve characters and he'd only have to be better than two in a matchup average sense. It wouldn't be impossible - probably not even hard.Maybe Doomsday I'll give you that, but Nightwing really? He has much faster normals in escrima, decent damage an air projectile, a ground spike special, safe against a lot of characters in staff stance up close because of the speed and range. Do moderate speed 50/50 mix up's a grab starter and a high damage traited special really beat that? plus there's also Flash, Frost Aquaman, top 15 sure, top 10 doubtful
He never was.Am I the only on that thinks Lobo is still the worst character in the game?
Never was and definitely isn't now. He's not without some issues, but I'd definitely place him in top 15-20.Am I the only on that thinks Lobo is still the worst character in the game?
Don't be a MylesWright.Am I the only one that thinks Lobo was and still is the worst character in the game?
Hey, there's this new 1.08 patch out now, I think you should download itAm I the only one that thinks Lobo was and still is the worst character in the game?
He's much better, a top tier character hardly. Everything that made him better this patch still needs meter and still needs some breathing room to set up traits. It's not like some idiot character that can just throw shit out over and over until it works. His normals are ok but nothing to brag about. If he's top 10 what about Zod and his bitch ghost, Martian Muff Hunter, Superdouche, Wonderwhore, Green Lanturd, Black Asshole, Derpsday, Nightwang, Buttgirl and Fatman. They are still all better than him.