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Initial MkX Tournaments and seeding.

TakeAChance

TakeAChance

TYM White Knight
Will the first few MKX tournaments have random seeding?

I think we should start the game off with a clean slate. MKX is not MK9, or Injustice. Personally, I feel that we truly shouldn't have any seeds until after EVO.

Have Chicagos tournament, Toryuken, CEO, etc...all count for consideration of seeds, but not declare actual seeds until post EVO (with evo performance carrying the most weight).

This way, we will have some real hype tournaments and nothing to complain about when it comes to victories and losses. Random seeding, or seeding based on region only.

After Evo, we compile tournament results and then dictate seeds from there.

Is this idea a good one or not? Why/ why not?
 
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TakeAChance

TakeAChance

TYM White Knight
kabelfritz said:
i think its ok to just seed the "usual suspects" in the beginning.
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See, I disagree. If we seed the usual suspects, they have a higher chance of locking in an early seed. If history has proven anything, it's that winning early pretty much guarantees you a seed for the games entire lifespan. I don't think it's fair to give "the usual suspects" that type of advantage off the start for free.

It also makes all of those beginner tournaments hold a lot of weight for the future of the game.
 
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TakeAChance

TakeAChance

TYM White Knight
EMPEROR_THEO said:
Clean slate. Seeding people most likely to do well sounds really stupid and unfair.
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See, I agree. The question now becomes, how do we seed initially? Randomly generated? Or segmented by region?

I would not be opposed to random generation, but having to face a fellow training partner early in tournament would kind of suck. Then again, it's random so it's still somewhat fair.

In "Theo's wonderful tournament of wonderfulness" how would you seed?
 
TakeAChance

TakeAChance

TYM White Knight
EMPEROR_THEO said:
Skype Illuminati all get byes until top 16, everything else is up to TOs.
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LOL

coolwhip said:
Capcom guys all get top seeds since obviously they are able to pick up games faster and dominate NRS scrubs.

PS: Theo is a SF player now and therefore, a Capcom guy so he should be seeded.
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All hail our capcom overlords.

In all seriousness tho, I think this is something we need to figure out.
 
coolwhip

coolwhip

Noob
TakeAChance said:
LOL



All hail our capcom overlords.

I all seriousness tho, I think this is something we need to figure out.
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I can't have a strong opinion about this since it is up to tournament players and TO's to figure out, but my two cents, for what they're worth, is to go with a clean slate.
 
Braindead

Braindead

I want Kronika to step on my face
I think clean slate is a no-brainer. We saw how in Injustice the regular top 8 placers were waaaaaaaaaay different than the MK9 top 8 placers.

MKX is a new game and different from both. It makes zero sense to seed players on their placement in one of the previous games.
 
TakeAChance

TakeAChance

TYM White Knight
DanCock said:
theres going to be 3 months between the release of the game and evo. im sure a few majors between that time will have MKX there. the players that go to those tournaments and will be attending EVO should get some seed points for the MKX pool at EVO.
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That's fine. But I feel the majors leading up to evo have to be randomly seeded by region. It's the only fair way.

I will give you Evo, as the players who do travel to the tournaments should be rewarded...but the initial tounaments should in no way shape or form have pre determined seeds imo.
 
16 Bit

16 Bit

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I have two questions that need to be answered. I am not saying there's a right or wrong answer. They're just two questions that have to be answered honestly.

1. Is it ok for Sonic Fox and REO to play first round at the first major?

2. Is it ok for the winner of Combo Breaker to fight the winner of the Common Wealth first round at CEO?
 
TakeAChance

TakeAChance

TYM White Knight
GGA 16 Bit said:
I have two questions that need to be answered. I am not saying there's a right or wrong answer. They're just two questions that have to be answered honestly.

1. Is it ok for Sonic Fox and REO to play first round at the first major?

2. Is it ok for the winner of Combo Breaker to fight the winner of the Common Wealth first round at CEO?
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Valid questions.

Sonic Fox and Reo would have a low chance of playing each other as they would be classified as East Coast region. (I think) Would it be possible? Yes. But unlikely. If itdoes happen, it's random so they would have to suck it up and play.

2. If the winner of Combo Breaker and Common Wealth were in two seperate regions, and got RANDOMLY selected to play each other...then yea I think it would be ok. It's still very unlikely tho.
 
StevoSuprem0

StevoSuprem0

I'm gonna make this skill gap... disappear.
By and large, I say fresh game, fresh slate. Let it rock and see where it goes.
GGA 16 Bit said:
1. Is it ok for Sonic Fox and REO to play first round at the first major?
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Yes. First off, it's generally double elimination. If either of them is as good as they have been at everything in the past, they should be able to fight their way back out. If not, then it kinda further justifies allowing this to happen anyway... just make sure it gets streamed ;).
I think if there is any seeding, it should only be done on people that have had their hands on the game more than the general populus (testers). Not a shot at you or anything, I just think that's the only thing that truly gives people an advantage going into a new game. Beyond that, if whatever seeding systems are in place factor in locals and such, I think that could help with some preliminary seeding as well.
 
Charybdis

Charybdis

We are returned! Death to the False Emperor!
This is great and all guys but the real questions are should testers be banned and what will the tournament standard console be?
 
haketh

haketh

Noob
GGA 16 Bit said:
I have two questions that need to be answered. I am not saying there's a right or wrong answer. They're just two questions that have to be answered honestly.

1. Is it ok for Sonic Fox and REO to play first round at the first major?

2. Is it ok for the winner of Combo Breaker to fight the winner of the Common Wealth first round at CEO?
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Yes to both it is, it's a new game & going to be a mix of new & old players. This early nothing is going to be set in stone with who's likely to win what.
 
Chaosphere

Chaosphere

The Free Meter Police
Can't we just start with a clean slate and use the "Road to Evo" tournament placings to award seeding points for all other "Road to Evo" tourneys until the EVO tournament?

Isn't this common sense? Not trying to sound condescending, but I didn't think this would be a real conversation.
 
TakeAChance

TakeAChance

TYM White Knight
Chaosphere said:
Can't we just start with a clean slate and use the "Road to Evo" tournament placings to award seeding points for all other "Road to Evo" tourneys until the EVO tournament?

Isn't this common sense? Not trying to sound condescending, but I didn't think this would be a real conversation.
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So you think the top 8 in April should also be seeded for May and June?

The topic at hand does not apply for the duration of the games lifespan, only it's early stages. I am concerned seeds are just going to get handed out "willy nilly" and would like to see the community rally around the idea of Randomly selected seeds per region until Evo /After evo.

I agree that this should be common sense, however, Injustice started off having seeded players. I would like to see common sense prevail this time around, just like you :)
 
Chaosphere

Chaosphere

The Free Meter Police
TakeAChance said:
So you think the top 8 in April should also be seeded for May and June?

The topic at hand does not apply for the duration of the games lifespan, only it's early stages. I am concerned seeds are just going to get handed out "willy nilly" and would like to see the community rally around the idea of Randomly selected seeds per region until Evo /After evo.

I agree that this should be common sense, however, Injustice started off having seeded players. I would like to see common sense prevail this time around, just like you :)
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I would imagine that we would just start seeding after the first road to evo event. Only the road to evo tourneys would be used to award seeding points up until Evo, after that we'd have to figure out our own methods of seeding.
 
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