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Proper Way to punish Mileena tele kicks as reptile

Dude Reptile Mileena isnt even that bad. People saying its 7-3 is crazy and just do elbow dash all the time. I ran that MU a lot with THTB at FR and we were literally going back and forth. I had to use Sonya to win most of the matches which is way worse for Reptile IMO.
The problem is her hucking sais constantly. If you can start dash pressure before she starts that then I agree. Her teleport wiffs while you dash. But once she gets those sais going, you either burn meter on a slide, try to trade with spit, or try to guess when she is you.g to teleport and hopefully punish. Is this 7-3? I have no idea...but it definately sucks. Not whining I'm just saying.

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Temjiin

www.mkxframedata.com
So given that they are both 11 frames, why would you use 1 and not 2 into ex ball? 2-EX fast ball and ended with slide is 34%.
 

RapZiLLa54

Monster Island Tournaments
2 into ex forceball, 32 slow, 2f31+2 . 30% reset if they block or in most cases they won't 37% damage, which is a legit punish.

The inconsistent part of punishing this damn move is it realizes more on getting the timing of releasing block. Half the time all my inputs come out perfect but the 2 won't come out and I do an enhanced forceball.

Practice makes perfect.

Also best punish for a blocked roll is fastball>NJP> 32 slowball, 2f31+2. Pretty much same thing, 28% reset or 35% damage
 

Death

Noob
The problem is her hucking sais constantly. If you can start dash pressure before she starts that then I agree. Her teleport wiffs while you dash. But once she gets those sais going, you either burn meter on a slide, try to trade with spit, or try to guess when she is you.g to teleport and hopefully punish. Is this 7-3? I have no idea...but it definately sucks. Not whining I'm just saying.

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Not its called dash blocking to work your way in. like you do with every character. Of course if you just try and dash and do random slides your going to get blown up. Mileena isnt winning MUs just because she can throw sais. Those days are over.
 

Pig Of The Hut

Day 0 Phenomenal Dr. Fate and Darkseid player
Not its called dash blocking to work your way in. like you do with every character. Of course if you just try and dash and do random slides your going to get blown up. Mileena isnt winning MUs just because she can throw sais. Those days are over.
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Not its called dash blocking to work your way in. like you do with every character. Of course if you just try and dash and do random slides your going to get blown up. Mileena isnt winning MUs just because she can throw sais. Those days are over.
I realize you can dash block in. She builds tons of meter while you do that, and not attack mileena ends in a bad day for reptile. What your saying is fundamentally sound but mileena doesn't stand there until you reach her. She has loads of other options as well.

If noob is zoning me, or kenshi, or really anyone else, jumping is an option. Mileena is just begging for you to jump...anywhere. not necessarily Jip just a random jump over a projectile gets you blown up.

All I'm saying is, if played right she has answers for most of what he can do. It's hard to get her on the ground where reptile really can put the pressure on.
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McNasty

Moist.
Inconsistant punish is 2x more inconsistant come tournament time. Oh and mileena's back dash goes about twice as far as reptiles forward dash block. But what do I know I just counter pick that hoe anyway.

Edit: thanks though pig ill have to practice this shit so someday I can make you go kenshi and become a permanent resident of dat ass.
 

CitizenSnips

A seldom used crab named Lucky. AKA Citizen Snips.
I've known about this for a while but I'm not conditioned to do it yet. I usually just d4-acid hand but I really need to start doing a stronger punish. And yeah I agree with Scoot, the training mode sucks. I want to practice punishing Lao's teleport with the d1 forceball punish but it's just fristrating dealing with the practice mode. I usually do alright against Mileena but I have to get this down. I still hate Mileena though... that monstrous whore.
 

THTB

Arez | Booya | Riu48 - Rest Easy, Friends
The problem is her hucking sais constantly. If you can start dash pressure before she starts that then I agree. Her teleport wiffs while you dash. But once she gets those sais going, you either burn meter on a slide, try to trade with spit, or try to guess when she is you.g to teleport and hopefully punish. Is this 7-3? I have no idea...but it definately sucks. Not whining I'm just saying.

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It really isn't that bad.

Sais are good if you're not able to duck then immediately elbow dash or don't know your spacing where you can projectile trade reliably. And I don't play this matchup trying to rush. I play it by playing footsies. I can't stress this enough. Reptile keeps up with her here, and you eliminate the issue of jailing telekick sais.

She doesn't keep Reptile out, and the worst she does to Reptile is make him crouch block to deal with telekick sai. At the space you'll be playing, this factor is gone.

I need to start practicing this punish though...knowing that Detroit is doing this flawlessly just made me feel this matchup is basically even.
 

Pig Of The Hut

Day 0 Phenomenal Dr. Fate and Darkseid player
It really isn't that bad.

Sais are good if you're not able to duck then immediately elbow dash or don't know your spacing where you can projectile trade reliably. And I don't play this matchup trying to rush. I play it by playing footsies. I can't stress this enough. Reptile keeps up with her here, and you eliminate the issue of jailing telekick sais.

She doesn't keep Reptile out, and the worst she does to Reptile is make him crouch block to deal with telekick sai. At the space you'll be playing, this factor is gone.

I need to start practicing this punish though...knowing that Detroit is doing this flawlessly just made me feel this matchup is basically even.

Ive been saying mileena and reptile is 5-5 for a while

I havent been joking and it has nothing to do w my confidence factor in this MU

I swear when reptiles start doing this, using THTB footsies, Joker's AA game.....damn man i just need to stop

Reptile community - Other than like 3-5 of you, you all deserve being on blast. You have mileenas telling you how to beat us and a shang player showing you guys how to punish

still love you guys
 

Briggs8417

Salt Proprietor of TYM
I agree with THTB and Pig Of The Hut on this one, getting in is not hard, and footies are vital. I believe that this discovery makes the mu a 5-5, the only reason it was so bad because we had no answer for the ex Tele, seriously THAT'S IT!! mileena could just sit back and zone then when you got close do ex Tele for free, now that we have a punish, mileena is going to be in for a world of hurt.
 

THTB

Arez | Booya | Riu48 - Rest Easy, Friends
I agree with THTB and Pig Of The Hut on this one, getting in is not hard, and footies are vital. I believe that this discovery makes the mu a 5-5, the only reason it was so bad because we had no answer for the ex Tele, seriously THAT'S IT!! mileena could just sit back and zone then when you got close do ex Tele for free, now that we have a punish, mileena is going to be in for a world of hurt.
And in all honesty, she still couldn't keep Reptile out anyway, and even if she did telekick, if you knew what to do, the use of it was basically only chip damage.
 

Briggs8417

Salt Proprietor of TYM
And in all honesty, she still couldn't keep Reptile out anyway, and even if she did telekick, if you knew what to do, the use of it was basically only chip damage.
True, advantage has always been the key. If you got in and got something started it got hard for her because of reptiles fantastic footsies and good pressure. I feel like the only real problem with the mu is you need meter to excel in it.
 

THTB

Arez | Booya | Riu48 - Rest Easy, Friends
Yeah, the need for meter somewhat blows, but Reptile is really solid at repping Cingular anyway, so it's not too huge a deal.
 

CitizenSnips

A seldom used crab named Lucky. AKA Citizen Snips.
Ive been saying mileena and reptile is 5-5 for a while

I havent been joking and it has nothing to do w my confidence factor in this MU

I swear when reptiles start doing this, using THTB footsies, Joker's AA game.....damn man i just need to stop

Reptile community - Other than like 3-5 of you, you all deserve being on blast. You have mileenas telling you how to beat us and a shang player showing you guys how to punish

still love you guys
I personally still think Reptile loses the matchup, but honestly I have only lost to 1 Mileena player in tournaments so far (that bastard DetroitBalln313 ) and even then I was close to winning the second set (got butchered the third). So basically, I haven't been blown up badly by a Mileena yet which should have happened already. I think the problems Reptile has against Mileena are the same problems every other character has. Can't jump against her, tough to outzone her etc.

Also, Reptile players have to bait that telekick. I ahve caught many players with charging a forceball and they telekick right into it. It's similar to using EX forceball as anti-air, but a bit harder because you have to be playing very well and predict when they will telekick. And Pig, I've tried adding you but your list is full. I'm starting to play again more regularly and would like some practice against Mileena and Kenshi.

And my opinion is law, for Taylor Swift is on my side.
 

RapZiLLa54

Monster Island Tournaments
Reptile community - Other than like 3-5 of you, you all deserve being on blast. You have mileenas telling you how to beat us and a shang player showing you guys how to punish

still love you guys
I don't get this comment. We had an entire thread on how to punish Mileena several different ways just the general consensus was its not worth the meter and its inconsistent which in most cases rings true.




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I don't think the match up is heavily in her favor, but I just can't possibly see it as even. Reptile has to work so much harder than mileena in this match up. I still use reptile against her because I know him best, which is proof I don't think it is un winnable but I feel at best she has a slight advantage.

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id probably say 6-4 mileena maybe even 5.5 for her

it's not 7-3 lol.

Yeah mileena can roll the forceballs (not ex), acid spits, and dash on block, but now reptiles are finding good ways to punish her, making the match seem not as difficult. no way does reptile lose this 3-7
 

Briggs8417

Salt Proprietor of TYM
id probably say 6-4 mileena maybe even 5.5 for her

it's not 7-3 lol.

Yeah mileena can roll the forceballs (not ex), acid spits, and dash on block, but now reptiles are finding good ways to punish her, making the match seem not as difficult. no way does reptile lose this 3-7
I agree, ex fbs already take care of roll and yelekick when predicted, but now that we can react to it and punish as well, we can punish everything, I just don't know if I can see it any other way than even, but idk I guess I will find out once I het the punish down and start using it in matches.