starzilla83
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I'm looking for more info on this match-up. Can anyone tell me what the ratio is as well as explain who has the better kit and why?
It’s probably 5-5, one of the few MU’s Kabal doesn’t outright win. Kabal has the better kit, and the most winning MU’s in the game. But Human Smoke isn’t too far behind him. Some even claim HSmoke is better than Kabal, but that’s typically from Kabal apologists and HSmoke haters, lol.I'm looking for more info on this match-up. Can anyone tell me what the ratio is as well as explain who has the better kit and why?
Not an expert, but Kabal is better especially with most online players using macro’d fireball spamming and modified keyboards / hitboxes . I reccomend skipping umk3 totally and playing a newer game that more than 8 toxic people still play.
Agreed. At this point there isn’t too much upside. Unless there’s some kind of resurgence, it really isn’t worth it to be perfectly honest.I reccomend skipping umk3 totally and playing a newer game that more than 8 toxic people still play.
The game is old and boring, and just meh af.
I can agree with this as well. All I know is that it definitely does not favor HSmoke at all. At best for him it’s “even”, but that’s still probably a stretch. I think a more accurate number would be 5.5-4.5 in Kabal’s favor, but I don’t like doing the decimal shit for MU numbers. So yeah, I can agree with with 6-4 or 5-5. I don’t think it’s entirely important however, but that’s how I feel about MU numbers and tier lists in general. I won’t get into why I think people super overvalue MU #’s and tier lists and explain how subjective they are, because that’s an entirely different discussion really.i'd say 6:4 if the players are same level, but 5:5 is acceptable as well.
as close as hsmoke can be to kabal, i'd never say he is better than him tho
HSmoke has more tools than Kabal? How so?I rarely get on TYM so I didn't see this. HSmoke has more tools, but it is very difficult to get in on IAGB spam. It's definitely doable on HSmoke's part but you have to work harder.
HSmoke has:HSmoke has more tools than Kabal? How so?
Yeah, as one of those right hands i am gonna say this is not true.Ppl in general love smoke, but i just find ermac to be equally if not more so annoying at the right hands.
is smoke really that problematic huh!Yeah, as one of those right hands i am gonna say this is not true.
Nah, you’re right, Ermac can be just as good and difficult to play against. Human Smoke is honestly just slightly better, and that’s pretty much just due to HSmoke’s airthrow and walk speed.is smoke really that problematic huh!
I had also listed their tools and what not, but forgot to post it.HSmoke has:
Kabal has:
- Better Normals aside from LP/HP (Specifically LK and HK because those moves disable Kabals spin even on whiff)
- Faster Walk Speed
- Teleport
- Air Throw
- Sweep, HK, LK Punish
- Very Flexibly Corner Traps with Spear
- More Damage
- Can relaunch Kabal, but Kabal cannot relaunch Male Ninjas
HSmoke generally has a greater amount of tools, but that doesn't mean his tools are better than Kabal's.
- LP/HP Jabs (Best LP Jab, 2nd Best HP Jab in game)
- Spin (Best Anti Crossup in game)
- IAGB (Invalidates around half of the cast)
- clHPHPdHP (Which is most likely the best string in the game)
- Better Throw
Yeah, he is problematic, it is mainly because of his walk speed as juggs said. Ermac has some cool combos but his projectile is average, Smoke has free hit spear also air throw. Combos doesn't make that much difference between these two but i can say that Smoke combos are easier to get.is smoke really that problematic huh!
Smoke can always block the reverse spin.I know Smoke's tele invalidates most of the pressure in the game, this is the reason why him and ermac are also picked up a lot, but doesn't kabal ca reverse spin in some of these situations as well?
Ppl in general love smoke, but i just find ermac to be equally if not more so annoying at the right hands.
Garbage.Not an expert, but Kabal is better especially with most online players using macro’d fireball spamming and modified keyboards / hitboxes . I reccomend skipping umk3 totally and playing a newer game that more than 8 toxic people still play.
Its also not about the character, like @MKK hanzo is supposed to be the best in the world, using 3rd top tier character still loses to Sheeva who is supposed to be the worst character. It just shows you that when a skill gap of this nature exists, the last tier character can decimate the best. Its a Sheeva Clinic.
The game is old and boring, and just meh af.
Oh damn! Some actual real beef, love to see it in the current soft era of MK where the word is only used to promote streams.Garbage.
This man(?) clearly is not an expert because he can only pick one character in an old a game he thinks is "old and boring, and just meh af". A wise man wouldn't take him seriously.
Garbage - YouTube
Your Online "Sheeva Clinic" is a Trash Heap and so are you. Now take a hint and shut the fuck up.
@RollTide8569 you can just ask the Discord these questions and get an actual answer.
If people want to play you can get ahold of me on FC2: "lexwavenet" Ill be there playing mostly friends while blocking this garbage humans' 50 desperate, attention seeking accounts.
Im the best in the world? Thanks! Always knew you were my biggest fan!Not an expert, but Kabal is better especially with most online players using macro’d fireball spamming and modified keyboards / hitboxes . I reccomend skipping umk3 totally and playing a newer game that more than 8 toxic people still play.
Its also not about the character, like @MKK hanzo is supposed to be the best in the world, using 3rd top tier character still loses to Sheeva who is supposed to be the worst character. It just shows you that when a skill gap of this nature exists, the last tier character can decimate the best. Its a Sheeva Clinic.
The game is old and boring, and just meh af.
Alex,Garbage.
This man(?) clearly is not an expert because he can only pick one character in an old a game he thinks is "old and boring, and just meh af". A wise man wouldn't take him seriously.
Garbage - YouTube
Your Online "Sheeva Clinic" is a Trash Heap and so are you. Now take a hint and shut the fuck up.
@RollTide8569 you can just ask the Discord these questions and get an actual answer.
If people want to play you can get ahold of me on FC2: "lexwavenet" Ill be there playing mostly friends while blocking this garbage humans' 50 desperate, attention seeking accounts.