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Should Brutalities Be More Brutal?

Ryu Hayabusa

Filthy Casual
Every regular throw and X-Ray in the game should have a hidden brutality in them.

And, yes, I play Cryomancer and he should definitely have an ice hammer brutality.
Sub-zero freezing your intestines and and stabbing you in your eyes with it would make one kold brutality.
 
Brutalities are kind of like the game itself, there are ones that are hard to pull of but very satisfying, quick and easy ones and plain crap. It's almost a metaphor for MKX. But if everyone had one as awesome as Fisticuffs, Hunter and Butcher, it would be really fucking cool. Not cruel brutal but extremely mean while it lasts.
 

Hara-Killer

Reverse Salt
like tyler landsdown said , r secret brutalities , and new ones , probably Alien will make a top 5 most Brutal / best Brutalities in MK X.... Jason will get a new one (secret)

Amazing how KP 2 , MK XL bring New Life to the Game , the final question , with that huge sucess will WB / NRS make an horror fight game soon than we expected ?? (PLS Do it) finger cross guys
 

Doctor Rektangle

Think outside the Box
Nothing will ever beat the dun dun dun


68 hit combo

*Explosion with 44 rib cages 12 skulls and 12 pelvis bones flying everywhere*

"Jax Wins. BRUTALITY"
 
I think they should just take brutalities out of the game. At this point, they serve no other purpose minus trying to escape the win animation and/or (but not limited to,) getting a mean comeback against an aggressive opponent and you want to make sure they become salty. Other than those two points, what are brutalities doing that is even worthwhile?
 
what are brutalities doing that is even worthwhile?
What you said about no win animation, but you also don't have to waste time at Finish Him then the 30secs for someone to fumble their fatality input only to finally get it at the last second.

I've got nothing against fatalities, they're a staple of MK, but sometimes i feel they're just way too long and in same cases just pointless. At least a brutality is quick, needs a little planning depending on which one/character, and in almost all cases are just a satisfying as a finishing move.
 

Northern Slasher

Heads or Tails X
God no. Fatalities and Brutalities are so obnoxious (the long ones) I refuse to play anyone that does them more than once. They were cool the first 4 months now it's just annoying and disrespectful.
 

Beckmann_2420

I am the Infantry! FOLLOW ME!
While I like leatherdaddys hammer brutal, I was actually expecting their head to pop on the last couple of hits.

I agree that some brutals could be alot more brutal. Not to mention so many missed opportunities with alot of the cast that could've had other awesome ones.

Also some have some ridiculous requirements too.
 

Hidan

Where the hell is Reiko's wheel kick
If there is one thing we can take away from Leatherface in the Kombat Kast that featured the chainsaw menace was that no matter if he is the worst character in the game, no matter if 2 people play him and he never makes it out if pools, doesn't even matter if he is removed from tourney play all together - he has the best brutality hands-down.

Hell, even half of his chainsaw moves are more brutal than 85% of the brutalities.

That brings up my point, brutalities are hype but imagine if they all held the same ultraviolence that Leatherface's hammer brutality presented?

If, for whatever reason, somebody hasn't seen Leatherface's hammer brutality...he hits them around 10-15 times over the head with a hammer and then they lay on the ground and reach for him for mercy and he hits them two more times.

Now, should every brutality be this over the top?

For instance, I'll use Kung Jin as an example since he is my main, Kung Jin's straight arrow brutality pierces through their stomach and rests pointed out of their back with their heart on the end of it. That's it...
In my opinion, it should do more than that. Like it can START as that but I think after getting shot like that, the opponent should reach down at his chest and then Kung Jin hits him 5 more times in the face with his arrow and around the 3rd or 4th shot the opponent's head is basically falling apart.
That's ultraviolent and over-the-top...fitting the brutality tag well.

Or Johnny Cage's nut punch brutality...instead of first hit knocking their head off...what if he did several quick upper cuts to the groin and basically saws their body in half with it...then does his ex part where he dragon punches and their head flies off out of screen? (No meter needed of course, he just does it)

These are just a couple examples.
I think Brutalities should be more gruesome than Fatalities because of the sheer "He lost control of himself" psychopathic feeling that the term Brutality presents.

Thoughts?
For starters, kung jin and any other shaolin shouldn't even have fatalities due to their dogma. They did that with liu kang in MK1, should keep it.
Good guys shouldn't even have finishing moves, it looks ugly (especially those between family characters, I don't remember something so out of place)

2016 and people wanna be brutal with shaolins, what next

Also the least you could do is being grateful for the inclusion of Leatherface and not talking bullshit about it
 

FinalBoss_FGC

Day -4MONTHS Dual Jin main
For starters, kung jin and any other shaolin shouldn't even have fatalities due to their dogma. They did that with liu kang in MK1, should keep it.
Good guys shouldn't even have finishing moves, it looks ugly (especially those between family characters, I don't remember something so out of place)

2016 and people wanna be brutal with shaolins, what next

Also the least you could do is being grateful for the inclusion of Leatherface and not talking bullshit about it
 

FinalBoss_FGC

Day -4MONTHS Dual Jin main
Some of you really need to tame your boners for violence.
Its not that.

Its the fact that original brutalities were super complex with several hits and then the stupid explosion.

They should have paid homage to that by keeping the several hits part of it. Kind of a complex, more modern age version of the old brutalities. Not in a Liu Kang XRay-esque way but still using their special moves. Like, give each character 2-3 opposed to like 6 and make those 2-3 complex and gruesome like Brutalities were initially.
 
I still think Kung Lao's yipman brutal is awesome. It's easily the most used, that hurts it.
exactly!

i remember when they show kung lao grab from introduction, all internet was woooaaah. few months later they hate (imo) best lookin finishing move ever like it was visually the worst thing ever. now they ask do we need them to be more gore?

no. brutalities in mk are awesome,game is fucking awesome, stop crying about every little thing (read-tiers) and enjoy the fucking game guys.

tym is full of crybabies. i mean street fighter is the same fucking game for 25 years and i dont see anyone from their community complain about it.
 

FinalBoss_FGC

Day -4MONTHS Dual Jin main
exactly!

i remember when they show kung lao grab from introduction, all internet was woooaaah. few months later they hate (imo) best lookin finishing move ever like it was visually the worst thing ever. now they ask do we need them to be more gore?

no. brutalities in mk are awesome,game is fucking awesome, stop crying about every little thing (read-tiers) and enjoy the fucking game guys.

tym is full of crybabies. i mean street fighter is the same fucking game for 25 years and i dont see anyone from their community complain about it.
Point me to where I was crying? IDC if they made brutalities the least brutal things on Earth. Makes no difference to me.

I was just saying if you're going to use the brutal tag, make it brutal. Don't just make it a kill.
 

ChoseDeath

Seriously Casual Player.
God no. Fatalities and Brutalities are so obnoxious (the long ones) I refuse to play anyone that does them more than once. They were cool the first 4 months now it's just annoying and disrespectful.
I completely disagree. Those are a unique defining feature of Mortal Kombat and should always be encouraged. I do not understand how anyone plays this game and doesn't like that. IT'S THE ONE UNIQUE FEATURE OF THE FRANCHISE. There's about a million other fighting games that don't have them, take your pick.

And I think Brutalities and Fatalities are fine as they are, I very much enjoy almost all of them.
 

RyuKazuya

Jesus is my Lord and Savior!
That would is not the point, not everyone is willing to take things lightly.

For some culture Asian mythology is a sin such as their culture, Mk is no different, specially in a country like mine where ppl are in constant search of salvation, they will find an excuse to ban the game for the country.

For those who don't know, activision is facing a law sue because Jonas Savimbi's son said that the way the represented him in black ops 2 is not how their father was, they even didn't care to notice that Savimbi is helping the main character.

The government took advantage of this scandal and published a fake news saying a young man engaged the cops on a shooting, when he was arrested he said it was because he inspired himself on black ops 2, now the next game has a very big risk of being banned in my country, who will make a big impact in our cod community who just wants to play competitively , they might get the chance of not playing.

I really don't want the same happening to Mk because church fanatics will seek audience with the midia and say that the Mk Titans community are all devil worshippers, because there is a ninja from hell, gore, false gods and all that stands against what the "people of God" believes. They will not care about forces of good fighting forces of evil, they will say raiden is a false god, shinnok is a false god, etc etc.

The current barrier nrs has set for themselves it's fine, but not so to many others. Think about it.
Calling woirried christians "church fanatics" sounds a little degrading to me. We have to consider that we got desensityzed for gore and do not notice that mk has crossed the line with almost every game they have published. For sure the next mk game will leave us with mouths open and yelling "Thats REALLY fd up m8!!!"
After a certain amount of time we will even ask for more again feeling that the gore level in the current mk was not enough. Same happened to mk9, at first we were astounded about the gore level represented in the first few trailers. Now i read things like:"mk9 fatalities are boring." etc.
Even this thread prooves that we all are kinda desensitized to gore. And this again proofes that all the images we have seen through videogames movies etc. show that there has been some sort of influence.

There are people who are not desensityzed and think that the images shown in mk games might be destructive. That doesnt even sound silly to me as an mk fan since people do not seem to be satisfied with the gore level already included in the current build of mk.

And before anyone comes at me yelling "stupid bs" and stuff like that i wanna make clear that i dont wanna hurt anybody or call anyone stupid. That is just my opinion on this situation bro.^^
 

Eddy Wang

Skarlet scientist
Calling woirried christians "church fanatics" sounds a little degrading to me. We have to consider that we got desensityzed for gore and do not notice that mk has crossed the line with almost every game they have published. For sure the next mk game will leave us with mouths open and yelling "Thats REALLY fd up m8!!!"
After a certain amount of time we will even ask for more again feeling that the gore level in the current mk was not enough. Same happened to mk9, at first we were astounded about the gore level represented in the first few trailers. Now i read things like:"mk9 fatalities are boring." etc.
Even this thread prooves that we all are kinda desensitized to gore. And this again proofes that all the images we have seen through videogames movies etc. show that there has been some sort of influence.

There are people who are not desensityzed and think that the images shown in mk games might be destructive. That doesnt even sound silly to me as an mk fan since people do not seem to be satisfied with the gore level already included in the current build of mk.

And before anyone comes at me yelling "stupid bs" and stuff like that i wanna make clear that i dont wanna hurt anybody or call anyone stupid. That is just my opinion on this situation bro.^^
Non taken, i'm a religious person myself, and as long as i'm able o distinguish right from wrong, i think its all good.

Sadly not every church fanatics sees this way, we play MK no for the gore, its more about the lore, fun factor, competitive aspect of it, but these church fanatics who thinks everybody's education is the same, assumes at the glare that this is devil's work, it will provide influence into our weak souls to do evil and such.

This is just MK, now imagine a Tekken Tournament going live, and a Kazuya player turns into devil, the churches will go ape shit in my country.