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WT_Neptune

Praying for Rain
This is what I was referring to by looping 11~ Iceball:
Not an infinite exactly, but you could do it infinitely if you wanted to or until you eventually get tired or your opponent quits. It was a troll tactic to be accurate.
This has been patched out though?
 

RyuuJin882

Twitch.tv/ryuujin882
How can I deal with sub's jump in and especially crossovers? I feel like his jump is so fast and his crossover punch hooks under him. Tips, especially for crossover?
 

RM Ree

Shiba Tamer
If he's abusing it as a cross over, NJP him. It's butts as an air to air. SZ's walk speed is pretty slow too, a lot of players will get anxious and jip from max range. Walk backwards and trip guard, that beats my ji1's.
 

Trauma_and_Pain

Filthy Casual
I don't play Sub-Zero or anything, but I tried learning to play him for 2 days in the lab using the forums here on TYM as a resource. Had a really fun match against Very Hard AI Predator even though he murdered me in round 2.

Not sure if anybody likes games vs. AI, but I hope you enjoy. 720p available under settings.


 

RM Ree

Shiba Tamer
Kind of a scourge of the SZ forums a little while back. Argumentative, misinformed, liked AI play over PvP. He refused to check himself, and as a result, wrecked himself.
 

I GOT HANDS

Official Infrared Scorp wid gapless Wi-Fi pressure
Nobody is saying you are any of those things btw trauma, they were just having a joke at the "AI battle with Sub" similarity.

I personally would rather watch a fight against v hard AI than play one. Not much fun playing against a robot with 1 frame reactions. Everytime you get in its because the AI let you in, or because he threw out something unsafe. Watching it isn't so bad tho
 

Trauma_and_Pain

Filthy Casual
Nobody is saying you are any of those things btw trauma, they were just having a joke at the "AI battle with Sub" similarity.

I personally would rather watch a fight against v hard AI than play one. Not much fun playing against a robot with 1 frame reactions. Everytime you get in its because the AI let you in, or because he threw out something unsafe. Watching it isn't so bad tho
Yeah it can be frustrating when the AI reads inputs faster than any human can. But at the same time they lack the creativity of humans and can get predictable. I mostly only play against AI because lag completely ruins reaction time for me in fighting games and I don't know anybody half decent locally.
 

xLOCKx

Whatever it takes
Does anyone still use Nj3 as a wall ender? Cause seems like some people are using F12 as a wall ender nowadays to set up an Ice Klone.
 

xLOCKx

Whatever it takes
F12 gives you enough time to step back and put the clone where you want it and it does more damage.
But does the clone kinda pushed back abit when you used F12? Tbh, I never even bother used that string, I usually ended with Nj3 to put the Klone close enough to the opponent. Im not saying the move is terrible, I know that string can may use some good setups and stuff.
 

RVB

twitch.tv/rvblacktail
But does the clone kinda pushed back abit when you used F12? Tbh, I never even bother used that string, I usually ended with Nj3 to put the Klone close enough to the opponent. Im not saying the move is terrible, I know that string can may use some good setups and stuff.
some combos are best ended with njk others allow you to use f12 and get more damage and something like a 4 frame advantage over using njk.
One ender i never use is 112, I don't really see the point in that.
 

xLOCKx

Whatever it takes
some combos are best ended with njk others allow you to use f12 and get more damage and something like a 4 frame advantage over using njk.
One ender i never use is 112, I don't really see the point in that.
Who would use 112? That's like 0 chance of not giving you something fancy off from it. I may use F12 someday, I could use that move when the opponent is standing with Cryomancer if that works.
 

I GOT HANDS

Official Infrared Scorp wid gapless Wi-Fi pressure
Who would use 112? That's like 0 chance of not giving you something fancy off from it. I may use F12 someday, I could use that move when the opponent is standing with Cryomancer if that works.
I've always really preferred NJK for everyone, more control over spacing, guarantees wake ups can't touch you even if you miss a few frames, makes Clones safe that F12 doesn't (like say Reptiles), and the plus frames are never wasted considering you are almost always following it up with another attsck so it also helps your Oki and gives you a better chance of armor breaking if you misread.

Just my opinion, many prefer F12 for there extra point of damage.