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Ok, so we all know what a frame trap is at this point. Atleast, in technical terms. I just feel a lot of people are missing the point and understanding the application of frame trapping.
For this discussion I'll bring a few other games into context, but for the most part I'll keep it MKX. For the TL;DR scroll to the bottom.
Why are people getting so upset at people poking out of plus frames? Is that not the idea? In theory, is a poke not what you want from your opponent? If a frame trap is executed correctly and the opponent tries to poke out, you should beat them and therefore get a full combo from it. Allowing a poke to get through means execution was botched and the blame falls on the player, not the opponent. It's the nature of frame trapping.
Now what if I told you frame Traps don't even really NEED plus frames to work? You'd call me crazy right? Let's take a look at USF4 (street fighter). Generally frame Traps work around punishing your opponent for trying to crouch tech, but everyone is different and some people don't mash crouch tech in between strings this makes it harder to frame trap them. Normally a strategy around this is to walk forward and bait a throw, on reaction they will crouch tech and you blow them up for it.
This doesn't need plus frames to work. Let's bring characters into the discussion. The player is Ken vs the opponent Ryu. After 1 round the Ken realizes the Ryu is quite defensive and grounded while cornered and tends not to throw fireballs in Kens sweep range, he also has teched every throw thus far. Now with this information, Ken can attempt to frame trap the Ryu player by using a normal to blow up his tech next time he approaches. If the Ryu is successful in his defense, he will poke out with his crouch tech. If the Ken is successful, he will frame trap Ryu and punish him for his grab tech attempt.
Ok let's take it back to MKX. Why are we so focused on staggering our strings if we don't expect the stagger to work and grant us a combo? Most strings used for staggering are negative on block. The idea is to make the opponent believe we are going to use a full string, and we continue our pressure if they are slow to react and respect us. Let's say they are slow to react and try poking out. Normally you will win and succeed in "frame trapping" them.
Now I could go on and on for days about this, but I'd rather hear everyone's opinion.
Why do people get SO UPSET when opponents poke out of frame Traps? It's what you want. If they succeed in poking out is that not your fault? I understand if it's online and laggy, but that becomes the netcode/Internet's fault, not the opponents.
Now everything I say is in theory and not fact, although I do understand what a frame trap is. I respect that my idea may be different than others and that is fine. Discuss away.
TL;DR: You want people to try and poke out your frame Traps right? Why get mad when they do and succeed? Is it not your fault for poor execution? Discuss.
For this discussion I'll bring a few other games into context, but for the most part I'll keep it MKX. For the TL;DR scroll to the bottom.
Why are people getting so upset at people poking out of plus frames? Is that not the idea? In theory, is a poke not what you want from your opponent? If a frame trap is executed correctly and the opponent tries to poke out, you should beat them and therefore get a full combo from it. Allowing a poke to get through means execution was botched and the blame falls on the player, not the opponent. It's the nature of frame trapping.
Now what if I told you frame Traps don't even really NEED plus frames to work? You'd call me crazy right? Let's take a look at USF4 (street fighter). Generally frame Traps work around punishing your opponent for trying to crouch tech, but everyone is different and some people don't mash crouch tech in between strings this makes it harder to frame trap them. Normally a strategy around this is to walk forward and bait a throw, on reaction they will crouch tech and you blow them up for it.
This doesn't need plus frames to work. Let's bring characters into the discussion. The player is Ken vs the opponent Ryu. After 1 round the Ken realizes the Ryu is quite defensive and grounded while cornered and tends not to throw fireballs in Kens sweep range, he also has teched every throw thus far. Now with this information, Ken can attempt to frame trap the Ryu player by using a normal to blow up his tech next time he approaches. If the Ryu is successful in his defense, he will poke out with his crouch tech. If the Ken is successful, he will frame trap Ryu and punish him for his grab tech attempt.
Ok let's take it back to MKX. Why are we so focused on staggering our strings if we don't expect the stagger to work and grant us a combo? Most strings used for staggering are negative on block. The idea is to make the opponent believe we are going to use a full string, and we continue our pressure if they are slow to react and respect us. Let's say they are slow to react and try poking out. Normally you will win and succeed in "frame trapping" them.
Now I could go on and on for days about this, but I'd rather hear everyone's opinion.
Why do people get SO UPSET when opponents poke out of frame Traps? It's what you want. If they succeed in poking out is that not your fault? I understand if it's online and laggy, but that becomes the netcode/Internet's fault, not the opponents.
Now everything I say is in theory and not fact, although I do understand what a frame trap is. I respect that my idea may be different than others and that is fine. Discuss away.
TL;DR: You want people to try and poke out your frame Traps right? Why get mad when they do and succeed? Is it not your fault for poor execution? Discuss.