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[TakeAChance]

Radical anything is not the best form of said thing. That goes without saying. It's also irrelevant to actual feminism.

Radical feminism is it's own movement. It's own definition. It is however unfortunately a form of feminism.

Regular feminism is fine and warranted. This shit tho?:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=GO_X4DkwA_Q#t=1



I had a professor who was a feminist. She taught a class called "Sex Gender and Society." For our term paper we could pick one aspect of society in regards to gender we wanted to research. I chose the men's movement, mainly because I didn't know one existed. I got a 50 percent grade on that paper. When I took the paper in to her to ask why, (as there was virtually no feedback on the paper) she looked at it told me she was a feminist and gave me a 75. That's all I got.

I had another professor who said something that has always stuck with me. "Every warranted social movement is like a clock pendulum. It swings to far one way before coming back to the center.". Feminism is definitely warranted, but even they will tell you that some women abuse their status as women. That's pretty much seen in this thread.

 

[TakeAChance]

This dude's day would have been seriously ruined if he'd forgotten to press record. Just imagine: "I had it video taped. I had it video taped. I had it vid...Oh shit."

This. I keep thinking about that and it literally scares me. We had a case in university where a girl was straddling a guy in his dorm room. He didn't want to do anything with her. She forced herself on top of him, and he struggled to get her off. In this process she actually fell off of the bed and got bruised up. The dude was charged for assault. Scary stuff.

 

[TakeAChance]

False analogy. Christianism isn't about ONLY these values. So you can still be true to those values, but disagree with some other aspect of Christianity (or simply be of different religion), and therefore, can't be a Christian. That doesn't mean that you can't be pro-respect and love at the same time.

However, since feminism is at its heart, strictly about gender equality and women's rights, then being against feminism as a concept (or idea, or theory) is worrying. Of course, if you're against how certain feminists express their views on feminism, and find them annoying, then you're only normal, because well, most of us do, and they can be quite irritating and needlessly vocal at times. But again, that's just an issue with the way some choose to represent feminism, not feminism itself.

/end thread

 

[Vulcan Hades]

Of course, if you're against how certain feminists express their views on feminism, and find them annoying, then you're only normal, because well, most of us do, and they can be quite irritating and needlessly vocal at times. But again, that's just an issue with the way some choose to represent feminism, not feminism itself.

But that's what I'm saying. A lot of "non-radical feminists", including in this very forum, will immediately label you a woman-hater and anti-equality for simply disagreeing with certain feminist solutions to achieve equality.

Even if you are egalitarian/humanitarian and thus for equality and women/human rights, they will still consider you part of the problem. And they will even say silly things like Egalitarianism is part of the "bigger movement" of feminism when it's not. Because they don't really share the same philosophy/solutions to achieve gender equality.

Feminism is clearly about empowering women, scapegoating and condoning discrimination/sexism vs men on the premise that women are, ironically, considered defenseless/powerless creatures more often victims of it and that their feelings, personal discomfort and problems have some kind of higher importance than men's due to a past (but never forgotten, never forgiven) history of women oppression. Simply put, a lot of feminists live in the past, do not take into consideration the giant gains women have made in the last 60+ years and do not realize (or realize but not care) that they are in fact oppressing and silencing men. I consider myself an egalitarian who lives in the present and is proud of the progress women have made and continue to make. But for most feminists, I will always be anti-feminist and "thus" anti-equality.

 

[Relaxedstate]

The average social justice aptitude of TYM members is that of a 6th grade catholic private schooler.

Bless anyone who has the energy/willpower to engage in this inherently anti-intellectual forum.

O well, I suppose it is for video games anyways

 

[Gesture Required Ahead]

I disagree. Radical feminism is not gender equality.

AKA Feminazi

 

[NRF CharlieMurphy]

The average social justice aptitude of TYM members is that of a 6th grade catholic private schooler.

Bless anyone who has the energy/willpower to engage in this inherently anti-intellectual forum.

O well, I suppose it is for video games anyways

*watches relaxedstate do a High horse drive by*

..... welp....... time to start figuring out ways to incorporate a rasperry pi into all my shit.

or buy and island.

 

[Chaosphere]

@Chaosphere Hi there! I'm not a feminist but I want gender equality. There's hate, lies, discriminations and rude stereotypes from both sides. It's disgusting. I'd rather everyone get along, like in the kids TV shows.

If you wante gender equality then you are, in fact, a feminist.

 

[Chaosphere]

Christianism = respecting and loving. If you aren't Christian there is something wrong with you.


Because it is OBVIOUSLY impossible for an Atheist, Muslim or Buddhist to share similar values, morals, maxims and goals. And rejecting any facet of Christianism automatically makes you anti-love and pro-murder.

You are either with feminists or you are part of the axis of evil.

Feminism = gender equality. If you are are for gender equality you are a feminist. If you are a feminist you are for gender equality. If you aren't a feminist you aren't for gender equality. If you aren't for gender equality you aren't a feminist.

Don't know how else to say it. If you don't support gender equality aka feminism there is something wrong with you.

 

[Vulcan Hades]

The average social justice aptitude of TYM members is that of a 6th grade catholic private schooler.

Bless anyone who has the energy/willpower to engage in this inherently anti-intellectual forum.

O well, I suppose it is for video games anyways

Of course, of course. We are all misinformed and unable to understand the highly complex and academic concepts of feminism. I can only dream of obtaining your level intellect and knowledge. One of these days I might consider your PM invitational request to achieve enlightenment. (This is the sarcasm part)

I still like you Relaxedstate and I want you to know that, unlike your kind, I don't consider you a man-hater or an intellectually deficient aka retarded anti-egalitarian. No matter what anyone says, you are an amazing person and you have great judgement and values. I commend you and I recommend you. (This part isn't sarcasm it's the truth)

I know we share common values, we both greatly respect women and are both for gender equality. We just disagree on minor details.

 

[Chaosphere]

Radical feminism is it's own movement. It's own definition. It is however unfortunately a form of feminism.

Regular feminism is fine and warranted. This shit tho?:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=GO_X4DkwA_Q#t=1



I had a professor who was a feminist. She taught a class called "Sex Gender and Society." For our term paper we could pick one aspect of society in regards to gender we wanted to research. I chose the men's movement, mainly because I didn't know one existed. I got a 50 percent grade on that paper. When I took the paper in to her to ask why, (as there was virtually no feedback on the paper) she looked at it told me she was a feminist and gave me a 75. That's all I got.

I had another professor who said something that has always stuck with me. "Every warranted social movement is like a clock pendulum. It swings to far one way before coming back to the center.". Feminism is definitely warranted, but even they will tell you that some women abuse their status as women. That's pretty much seen in this thread.

I don't think someone can abuse being a woman when they are the oppressed gender. It would be like saying some black people abuse being black. I don't think that's even possible. But white people can certainly abuse being white. See what I'm saying? You can't abuse your privilege if you don't have a privilege in the first place.

Your teacher being an asshole isn't an example of feminism. That's an example of being an asshole.

Off topic: This isn't directed at you, but just since you mentioned the men's rights movement. The men's rights movement is a joke. They are dedicated to increasing the inequality gap. It's literally no different than starting a white rights group.

 

[Chaosphere]

I disagree. Radical feminism is not gender equality.

And I wouldn't even call radical feminism a social movement. Really it's just some fringe women in the feminist movement that are fucking sick of dealing with the average white male's bullshit. I say they deserve the opportunity to lash out. Women have always been forced into the role of being pretty and silent and that's not the case anymore. I'd say I can look past a woman being absolutely outraged.

Let me bring up a different situation that I think parallels this one. Ferguson. Could you EVER criticize a black person for going absolutely batshit about it? Even if maybe in some other scenario what they're saying might be somehow construed as a little over the top? I certainly would never criticize anyone for being more than outraged about it.

That's how I feel about the VERY FEW feminists that might go a little overboard with their anti-male sentiment. And most of the time, their anti-male sentiment is more focused on society than it is any one single dude. Let them be pissed. They deserve that opportunity... if not for all of the women that have had to be silent over the last thousands of years.

 

[Chaosphere]

Of course, of course. We are all misinformed and unable to understand the highly complex and academic concepts of feminism. I can only dream of obtaining your level intellect and knowledge. One of these days I might consider your PM invitational request to achieve enlightenment. (This is the sarcasm part)

I still like you Relaxedstate and I want you to know that, unlike your kind, I don't consider you a man-hater or an intellectually deficient aka retarded anti-egalitarian. No matter what anyone says, you are an amazing person and you have great judgement and values. I commend you and I recommend you. (This part isn't sarcasm it's the truth)

Everything he said is true. Have you ever tried to suggest to a gaming community to respect women? It's one of the most disappointing and embarrassing things I've ever seen.

 

[Awkward Sloth]

Thread is titled "dealing with shady people, why you should record video and text" hmmm I'm onto the subtext on this title Mr. The Hut you can't fool me...

This is another thread about Cgi turtle peen isn't it?!

I've got my eye on you pal.

-a light hearted post in a thread that's going to a very dark place-

 

[Chaosphere]

Thread is titled "dealing with shady people, why you should record video and text" hmmm I'm onto the subtext on this title Mr. The Hut you can't fool me...

This is another thread about Cgi turtle peen isn't it?!

I've got my eye on you pal.

-a light hearted post in a thread that's going to a very dark place-

I don't understand why discussing feminism is considered "going to a very dark place"...??

This is the kind of stuff I'm talking about. Treating people equally is something we should avoid? I don't get it.

 

[HellblazerHawkman]

What a dumb woman. Thank God they're not all like that.

Wait what? Every woman I've talked to has thrown herself out of a moving car. I thought that was the norm

 

[Awkward Sloth]

I don't understand why discussing feminism is considered "going to a very dark place"...??

This is the kind of stuff I'm talking about. Treating people equally is something we should avoid? I don't get it.

Whoa whoa whoa calm down. Is TYM/the FGC really the demographic of people you'd think would be as a whole properly able to handle the delicate topic of feminism? Heck the first couple pages of this thread had replies along the lines of "bitches/whores be crazy."
This topic on TYM would be like going on Neopets and bringing up the same thing.
I'm a 100% behind gender equality btw.

 

[NRF CharlieMurphy]

Wait what? Every woman I've talked to has thrown herself out of a moving car. I thought that was the norm

I literally laughed out loud

you poor soul

 

[HellblazerHawkman]

You know what I love about the feminism movement? The assertion that every white male is better off than every female. Getting real here, I lost my house in May and have been homeless since then (crashing with a buddy and might have my own place in a few weeks before anyone panics). If I were a woman, I'd have no trouble finding a shelter and assistance. Nope, if I didn't have my friend, I'd be sleeping in my driver's seat. I'm enrolled in at an University, but I barely got enough assistance for my tuition and had to take out $8000 in loans to get me housed. I love the idea that I get so much handed to me because I have a penis, I'd hate to see what real hardship is if I have it easy. It's not 1950 anymore. Why can't we help PEOPLE in REAL need and not label some more in need because of their gender?

 

[Dizzy]

I don't understand why discussing feminism is considered "going to a very dark place"...??

This is the kind of stuff I'm talking about. Treating people equally is something we should avoid? I don't get it.

I think feminism in general gets a bad rap because people who shout from the mountaintops that they are feminists are insufferable due to their personalities.

I cant blame people having this feeling on many things that they would just rather avoid talking about due to this, like religion or politics. Its fine to have strong beliefs but people who are mild mannered just dont want to deal with setting off the feminist powderkeg.

 

[Vulcan Hades]

Everything he said is true. Have you ever tried to suggest to a gaming community to respect women? It's one of the most disappointing and embarrassing things I've ever seen.

Oh so you're one of those guys. You must also think most MK players have a higher chance of becoming murderers, wife beaters and rapists.

It's super mature and logical to blame people who play and enjoy sexist/violent video games when "the problem" is with the developers or should I say the producers who want to maximize their profits.

Of course guys are going to enjoy a good pair of boobs/ass/legs if it's offered to them. It doesn't mean they hate women / view them as sexual objects and it doesn't mean they aren't for equality.

 

[coolwhip]

Oh so you're one of those guys. You must also think most MK players have a higher chance of becoming murderers and rapists.

It's super mature and logical to blame people who play and enjoy sexist/violent video games when "the problem" is with the developers or should I say the producers who want to maximize their profits.

Of course guys are going to enjoy a good pair of boobs/ass/legs if it's offered to them. It doesn't mean they hate women / view them as sexual objects and it doesn't mean they aren't for equality.

It's got nothing to do with the games themselves. More to do with the people playing them.

 

[Scott The Scot]

If you wante gender equality then you are, in fact, a feminist.

And what are you defining as "feminist"? Because earlier you said "feminism = gender equality" and the literal definition of 'Gender Equality' is:
"Gender equality is the measurable equal representation of women and men. Gender equality does not imply that women and men are the same, but that they have equal value and should be accorded equal treatment."

Whereas the literal definition of 'Feminism' is :
"the advocacy of women's rights on the ground of the equality of the sexes."

Whilst I and anyone would agree that both terms are similar, they are not equal to each other as you said. I don't specifically advocate just womens rights, but also male rights. In light of the radical feminists that polute minds over the globe with absolute garbage and no reasoning whatsoever, I would prefer not to be labeled as a "feminist" as the name has been tarnished and the social definition has evolved for the worst. I would never say that "I want women to have more rights" as a last and final word, I would always say "I want women and men to have equal rights". I prefer to focus on both genders together, rather than seperating them.

 

[CrimsonShadow]

Wait, are we seriously trying to argue that the justice system in the US usually sides with females? First of all, things operate on a case-by-case basis. Second of all, this is HIGHLY debatable.

However it is in Lebanon, in the US yes that's actually the case. If you are accused of something as a male by a female, and the evidence for/against is mainly hearsay or fairly equal on both sides, she has a much greater chance of coming out on top than you do.

This also applies to marital disputes, child custody cases, and all sorts of other things.

This guy probably would have gone to jail or lost a bunch of money in a lawsuit if it wasn't for his video.

 

[coolwhip]

However it is in Lebanon, in the US yes that's actually the case. If you are accused of something as a male by a female, and the evidence for/against is mainly hearsay or fairly equal on both sides, she has a much greater chance of coming out on top than you do.

Yup, poor Kobe