Correction: ALL push block setups now do 0%

[The PantyChrist]

What about certain ranges near the corner? Can he crossover j3 for the vortex?

 

[Ashenar]

Anything that doesn't nerf zatanna but nerfs (fixes) other characters makes me SO HAPPY.

Nerfs are like hidden buffs for the rest of the cast!

 

[shogunoflive]

It's still not worth it.

So you think a safe normal should be punishable because you opted to spend a bar?

 

[xWildx]

Catwoman players of the world are crying tears of joy. All 6 of us.

 

[Cossner]

I have to give props to NRS for fixing it so fast. Faith restored a bit?

 

[cR WoundCowboy]

So you think a safe normal should be punishable because you opted to spend a bar?

A bar and at least two trait shots. Not to mention, you couldn't even land the big combo on normals that gave alot of pushback after pushblock.

 

[The PantyChrist]

Injustice: pushblock among us

 

[The PantyChrist]

Also I remember wound saying that the max damage combo off pushblock wasn't worth it. If a top representative for the character feels the tech isn't worth it and is unlikely to use it I think it's silly to take it from lex or joker who straight up need it

 

[K7L33THA]

Can you test grounded 112 and f22 TA push blocks set ups?

Also what about ending juggle combos with 2xxTA (midscreen and corner) ?

Any difference between normals and specials?


Got damn this is terrible for cyborg haha

The 112 and f22 TA setups seem to still work.

 

[Pig Of The Hut]

i actually wanted to see sinestro's trait push block used in tournament. oh well (of course not used on me, but on some1 else to see the salt/hype)

Still gives free interact able

 

[Pig Of The Hut]

No it requires two shots to set it up.

You still get a free interact able setup 3x

 

[Pig Of The Hut]

So let me get this straight. NRS takes time out of their day to nerf Sinestro, Lex, and Joker, but decide that the clearly dumb characters get to stay the same.
- Martian has a safe overhead teleport launcher, good zoning, ridiculous pressure, 4 way guessing games on knockdown and good damage. Sinestro needs nerfed.
-Aquaman has a move that chips for 17%, almost unmatched footsies, and the best AA in the game. Sinestro needs nerfed.
-Batman gets to do whatever he wants with bats, pressure you endlessly and still maintain a good zoning game. Sinestro needs nerfed.

Unreal. This character is a waste of time.

Cowboy don't you get a free interact able w it? Push block 4 shackles interact able? 3x??? For someone touching u?

48-66%?

 

[haketh]

You still get a free interact able setup 3x

Also petty nice how you can get decent trait charge if you use your last shot with this. It's still pretty useful for Sinestro.

 

[EVB SomeCubanGuy]

You still get a free interact able setup 3x

Even if they changed it to where you can only trait shot after the push block animation is finished, you'd still be able to get the same interactable setup anyway. It's just the design of the character.

 

[deathblooms2k4]

See Wound if you didn't go and win SCR with such a dominant performance, NRS wouldn't have had to nerf this tech so quickly. Oh wait...

 

[RapZiLLa54]

Glad they hotfixed this, it obviously was never meant to be part of the game as well as Batgirls bola crap. Thumbs up NRS!! Now please revert MMH's overhead teleport to its original form

 

[Name v.5.0]

Man, Lex needed his push block into mine. I guess maybe I'll just end combos with a P

This fucks up a very common Lex setup....

Yeah, I was using this setup at least once a match. Maybe I'll just end with MB Probe instead and go for 50/50.

Joker and Lex nerfs are fucking depressing.

 

[HoneyBee]

How do people not realize that Sinestro's shit is pretty much the same as Lex's/Joker's unblockable push block setups? All of them take resources to do. People need to stop with this myth that it's a "free 38% combo/vortex setup if I block you." Two trait shots and one bar isn't free. What everyone is up in arms about is it's ease of use, but the reality is it's really not any different. Is it stupid? Of course! But no stupider than tons of other shit in the game that is still there.

How do people not realize Sinestro's shit has a fundamental difference from Lex's/Joker's unblockable push block setups? Sinestro would have been capable a charging trait and LITERALLY doing nothing against ALL rushdown characters if he had the life lead and just wait for them to attack him so he can get 38% damage off of one bar and trait using a PUSHBLOCK. A tool that is meant to create space and stop offensive pressure, not give the defender guaranteed unblockable damage. At least Lex/Joker had to time their pushblock setups since the mine/teeth only stay there for a short period of time. I completely agree with taking this BS out of the game for Sinestro and the bola glitch btw, but Lex/Joker needed it. Pushblock setups weren't broken for them.

 

[Compbros]

How do people not realize that Sinestro's shit is pretty much the same as Lex's/Joker's unblockable push block setups? All of them take resources to do. People need to stop with this myth that it's a "free 38% combo/vortex setup if I block you." Two trait shots and one bar isn't free. What everyone is up in arms about is it's ease of use, but the reality is it's really not any different. Is it stupid? Of course! But no stupider than tons of other shit in the game that is still there.

Lex/Joker was out there for a finite amount of time so it required a lot of precise timing and a really good setup to work. Sinestro's works from anywhere, from any physical attack, at any time as long as he has trait up. It's not "pretty much the same", they're vastly different.

Also, it is free, what are you talking about? It may use resources but it's of no risk to the Sinestro player. Meterless/traitless and free are not the same thing.

 

[Tom Brady]

My point is that they chose to focus on something like this rather than the characters who are fucked up by design.

STOP!!! your cries are ridiculous...

I was KILLED by THIS COMMUNITY when sub-zero was SUPER NERFED including him losing his reset while cyrax, smoke, and jax all got to keep theirs. SZ's reset was the least damaging of all the resets and could be escaped with armor while the others were 100% free. I was told "shut the fuck up, Tom", "EXCUSES, TOM.. LEVEL UP", "What a cry baby", etc etc...

It happens.. deal with it..

There is no point in crying over spilled milk. Just gotta deal with it and move forward.

 

[Braindead]

How do people not realize that Sinestro's shit is pretty much the same as Lex's/Joker's unblockable push block setups? All of them take resources to do. People need to stop with this myth that it's a "free 38% combo/vortex setup if I block you." Two trait shots and one bar isn't free. What everyone is up in arms about is it's ease of use, but the reality is it's really not any different. Is it stupid? Of course! But no stupider than tons of other shit in the game that is still there.

No, no, no, no, no. All other push block setups require pre-commiting. You have to throw your shit around first before you think about push block. So if I am defending and I see Lex throwing a mine I hold my attack for a couple of seconds until it goes away. Same with joker, BA and the rest.
With Sinestro that's not the case at all. You don't need to pre-commit to anything. You have your trait out and GG. I can't attack or I'll eat a combo into a vortex. I don't have the option to wait for a second or 2 until the trait goes off.

Saying it's all the same is ridiculous.

 

[DevilMaySpy]

EXACTLY! Nerf more of Arrow's strings please

Arrow infinites would cap at 40% anyway.

 

[RIF]

Do you really not see how unfair something like that is?

Why are we conveniently overlooking the issues with the tech? You have to ALLOW someone to get close to you and potentially mix you up for this to work. Sinestro has a huge hitbox. Sinestro players taking a huge risk just to get you in a vortex? WHY? If I have trait out, I already had the advantage. I already have a mechanism to pressure you. I already have a mechanism to keep you out. Sinestro works for trait. Having it out is supposed to make him a better character. THAT is the mechanic and purpose of this trait. Having that advantage was earned.

Trait shots are GOLD for Sinestro. Giving the opponent the opportunity to NOT allow you to use them as you see fit is not a sound strategy. The tech has risk/reward associated with it . The 1 trait/1 bar trait variant was the best version of the tech. If I hit you with the tech and push you full-screen, that is where I want you. I take the risk of getting opened up for the chance to push you full-screen.

Zod and Bane both have traits that drastically change how the characters play when trait is active. Both of them get to use their trait AT WILL and enjoy extreme advantage.
How is it any different from this characters? You can't challenge Bane when he has trait. You have to sit and block repeatedly against Zod when he has trait. Because it's offense? That's a distinction YOU are making while playing a character built around offense. Sinestro is a DEFENSIVE character. The gameplay is not the same.

Sinestro has to EARN his advantage. Sinestro's trait tech IS defensive and therefor has a higher risk associated with it by definition.

Sinestro's trait is similar to Lex in terms of how critical it is to his gameplay. Without trait, both characters would be terrible. When they have it, they are at advantage. That's EXACTLY how it was designed. Now that @WoundCowboy found something that could help Sinestro when pressured we don't like that design so we change pushblock damage? Do you see how reactionary this sounds?

The 2 trait shot variation is something that needed to be closely evaluated OVER TIME.

 

[RIF]

Cowboy don't you get a free interact able w it? Push block 4 shackles interact able? 3x??? For someone touching u?

48-66%?

Pig....interactables aren't just laying around in every situation. You don't get a free interactable. You get interactables in certain instances. It's blanket statements like these that the community latches on to. We make it sound like Sinestro can pick up shit at will and just toss them. No. There's a character out there that CAN do that for free with his trait, but it's not Sinestro.

 

[trufenix]

The 2 trait shot variation is something that needed to be closely evaluated OVER TIME.

Glitches don't need to be evaluated. They need to be removed. Tier list be damned.