f23 or 12. Just make sure in your combos you hit the 323 when your opponent is low and you will have plenty of time to do f23/12 into your ender.
Whoa. Didn't even know all this was stuff to consider. Very useful stuff. Thanks!
Slips does 12 sword flip, dash once, F3 which beats a lot of wake-ups when timed right. Just thought I'd let you know if you wanted to try that too.
Are you talking about timing the 323 low after a J3? If so what happens if you time the 323 to hit higher? I ask because I don't time the 323, I just do it and drop half the combos except for d1~sword flips.
This guy has pretty much said everything. The little I will add is that you can 1 2 or f2 3 into trait. It gives u enough time to activate that 60 frame or so trait startup. Ds in his trait makes most your opponents think since u can shoot or ji 132 for an unblockable damage. Sometimes that's all you need to make your opponent open up.
Would you recommend doing DS standard oki after d1~flip as opposed to f23~flip since there is less splat time on the d1 ender?
after a J3 against a grounded opponent hit it right away or else it will basically whiff...if you hit them in the air or a juggle combo then wait until they fall closer to the ground ... because DS lands on the ground with the opponent further up in the air making it an easier juggle.
Pretty much yeah , with the right gravity + low 323 height you could also combo it into sweep.
