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Vagrant

Vagrant

Champion
Ahhh man I'm so excited to get into the lab after work.

Crathen
JokeStroke
Mikman360
TONY-T
J360
RedRaptor10
GGA Slips
Heaton
Rampage254
Mistah iiCeMan
Matix218


Let me know what you guys find and post it here

Edit: To start, here are some setups Enuma Elish has found and shared.

Max Pushback Sword Flip (Punished by Kryptonian Smash only):

F3 , JI2 , D2 , JI2 , F23 x Sword Flip for 29% (MB F3 does 34%)
B1U2 , F3 , D2 , JI2 , F23 x Sword Flip for 28%
132 , JI2 , St1 , F23 x Sword Flip for 26%
B3 , JI3, JI2 , F23 x Sword Flip for 33% {MB B3 does 39%}

23 x Trait (not optimized I can't do 23 after 323) (Punished by 9f moves or faster):

B1U2 , F3 , D2 , JI2 , 23 x Trait for 24%
F3 , JI2 , D2 , JI3 , 23 x Trait for 27% (MB F3 does 32%)
132 , JI2 , D2 , Slight step forward , 23 x Trait for 22%
B3 , JI3 , JI2 , D2 , Slight step forward , 23 x Trait for 29% (MB B3 does 35%)

D2 x Trait (COMPLETELY SAFE):

B3 , JI3 , JI2 , D2 x Trait 27% (MB B3 makes it do 33%)
B1U2 , F3 , D2 x Trait 20%
F3 , JI2 , D2 x Trait 20% (MB F3 does 25%)
132 , JI2 , D2 x Trait 20%

Unclashable (COMPLETELY SAFE)

B3 , F3 , Trait 19% (25% if B3 is MB'd , 29% if both are MB'd)

2 x BG Bounce ender (+5?)

B1U2 , F3 , D2 , JI2 , 2 x BG Bounce , Trait26%
F3 , JI2 , D2 , JI2 , 2 x BG Bounce , Trait 27% (MB F3 does 32%)
132 , JI2 , 2 x BG Bounce , Trait23%
B3 , JI3 , JI2 , 2 x BG Bounce , Trait 30% (MB B3 does 35%)
 
Rampage254

Rampage254

Ayy Lmao
Vagrant said:
Ahhh man lol. I didn't think you still played DS for whatever reason. I can't remember why but my brain was like "Should I tag rampage?, nah he doesn't play DS anymore." I shall add you to the VIP list sir.
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Haha nah I don't plan on dropping him. He's the only character I'm comfortable with, although I have been looking for a secondary.
 
Breaker

Breaker

~AKUMA~
Correct me if I'm wrong but 3 second duration pretty much means you get one shot and if that lands maybe another low shot but if missed that's all you get, one shot. Sounds pretty gimmicky and turd to me...I need more DLC's.
 
Vagrant

Vagrant

Champion
Breaker said:
Correct me if I'm wrong but 3 second duration pretty much means you get one shot and if that lands maybe another low shot but if missed that's all you get, one shot. Sounds pretty gimmicky and turd to me...I need more DLC's.
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Not sure if serious...?
 
Vagrant

Vagrant

Champion
Breaker said:
Me either that's why I said "correct me if I'm wrong" I'm not sure what to think of this "buff"
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Meh. Some people think it's a nerf. Myself and others consider it a buff.

I'll let you come to whatever conclusion you want on your own. I don't care to debate it in this thread.

Just asking people to post setups specific to the new trait changes.
 
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FOX YESS guys check this shit out:

F3 , JI2 , D2 , JI2 , F23 x Sword Flip is a 29% and puts them as far away as Sword Flip can. Nearly Fuillscreen.
EDIT: The B1U2 version: B1U2 , F3 , D2 , JI2 , F23 x Sword Flip for 28%
EDIT 2: 132 version: 132 , JI2 , St1 , F23 x Sword Flip for 26%
EDIT 3: B3 version: B3 , JI3, JI2 , F23 x Sword Flip for 33%

So Far I've tested it against:
Superman's Super(5f) - Still catches you
Lex Corps Charge(6f) - Too far to reach
Flash Lightning charge(6f) - Can be blocked and punished with 132 (He's at -21 132 comes out at 22f 1 will whiff but the gun and the launching kick will reach into your regular 132 BnB)
Killer Frost's Iceberg(16f) - blocked and reversal Quickfire
EDIT4: Deathstroke's QuickFire(10f) - Blocked and reversal.

After testing DS I believe it's safe to assume it's mostly safe against 10f+ full-screen reaching wake-ups. Who can wake-up faster than 10f and reaches full-screen besides Supes?

I don't know who else to test it on so you guys come up with something lol. Also beware this combo has HUGE wall carry and if you do it from the starting point you won't be able to stay safe.

And the Sword Flip Max range thing can be done by replacing 323 , F23 x Flip into St1 , F23 x Flip besides the F3 combo I just mentionned.
 
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Testing the 23 x Trait ender. I can't do 323 into 23 but I'll assume the height difference will not mater much

Superman's Super(5f): Unsafe
Flash Flying Uppercut(6f): Unsafe
Flash Lightning Charge(11f): Safe
Deathstroke's Sword Flip(7f): Unsafe
Deathstroke's Sword Spin(7f): Whiffs
Deathstroke's QuickFire(10f): Safe

EDIT: Safe to assume you're at -10 or less?
 
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Here are ways to get Trait out COMPLETELY SAFE (Supes can't punish haha fuck you bitch)

B3 , JI3 , JI2 , D2 x Trait 27% (MB B3 makes it do 33% WOW)
B3 , F3 , Trait 19% (25% if B3 is MB'd , 29% if both are MB'd) UNCLASHABLE INTO TRAIT THIS IS FUCKING OP'D HAHAHA DS I LOVE YOU
B1U2 , F3 , D2 x Trait 20%
F3 , JI2 , D2 x Trait 20%
132 , JI2 , D2 x Trait 20%
 
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Theories that I've tested and are completely unsafe:

B3 after a B3 or F3
123
Splat F3 (Besides the Unclashable)
32 x Trait

I want to go explore some corner set-ups but I don't know where to start. All I can think of is that after a D2 x Trait or Unclahable, you'd get a free 132 after a baited wake-up.

Vagrant you don't mind if I make my own thread compiling all the set-ups I've found so far or better yet you could edit your OP to have my stuff there?
 
Crathen

Crathen

Death is my business
I'm making a video of what i've found so far , some of this is pretty good.

Also do realize that even if some of those are unsafe from Superman Super doesn't make it any less usefull in most other matchups.
 
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Crathen said:
I'm making a video of what i've found so far , some of this is pretty good.

Also do realize that even if some of those are unsafe from Superman Super doesn't make it any less usefull in most other matchups.
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Yep, 23 x Trait and Max pushback Sword Flip into Trait as I've said could be at -10. Which is pretty safe. Especially the Max pushback Sword Flip since Supes is the only one I know who could punish it.
 
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Vagrant

Max Pushback Sword Flip (Punished by Kryptonian Smash only):

F3 , JI2 , D2 , JI2 , F23 x Sword Flip for 29% (MB F3 does 34%)
B1U2 , F3 , D2 , JI2 , F23 x Sword Flip for 28%
132 , JI2 , St1 , F23 x Sword Flip for 26%
B3 , JI3, JI2 , F23 x Sword Flip for 33% {MB B3 does 39%}

23 x Trait (not optimized I can't do 23 after 323) (Punished by 9f moves or faster):

B1U2 , F3 , D2 , JI2 , 23 x Trait for 24%
F3 , JI2 , D2 , JI3 , 23 x Trait for 27% (MB F3 does 32%)
132 , JI2 , D2 , Slight step forward , 23 x Trait for 22%
B3 , JI3 , JI2 , D2 , Slight step forward , 23 x Trait for 29% (MB B3 does 35%)

D2 x Trait (COMPLETELY SAFE):

B3 , JI3 , JI2 , D2 x Trait 27% (MB B3 makes it do 33%)
B1U2 , F3 , D2 x Trait 20%
F3 , JI2 , D2 x Trait 20% (MB F3 does 25%)
132 , JI2 , D2 x Trait 20%

Unclashable (COMPLETELY SAFE)

B3 , F3 , Trait 19% (25% if B3 is MB'd , 29% if both are MB'd)
 
NRF CharlieMurphy

NRF CharlieMurphy

Kindergarten Meta
You don't know OP MBb3 MBf3 combo's till you go into the lab and do Bane lvl3 venom

The setups are safe, but do they put you inposition to set up the string with the gunshot?
 
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NRF CharlieMurphy said:
You don't know OP MBb3 MBf3 combo's till you go into the lab and do Bane lvl3 venom

The setups are safe, but do they put you inposition to set up the string with the gunshot?
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It's not + enough to do so. But it creates a mindgame of baiting a wake-up and punishing with it or just dashing up/JI2 into that string(132)

EDIT: Talking about B3 into F3 and D2 x Trait btw. The other 2 set-ups leave you at around -10
 
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