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babalook

Apprentice
I feel that the patches that I’m hearing about are really out of line. The ones I’ve heard about are cyrax's bomb trap, quan chi's rune trap, and kabal's nomad cancel block strings none of these are game breaking in any way(CG with cyrax was a strong tactic but not broken). Cyrax, Quan Chi, and Kabal are not dominateing in the tournament scene, yet they are being stripped of what may be their best tools. It is way too early to be nerfing anything besides infinites at this point. I also feel like some of the things being removed are what makes character unique for example no other character can start combos off a CG(unless you count sheeva's low grab), no other character has guaranteed damage(with meter) AFTER their combo is over, or with kabal no other character can end there combos with things like f4 to give up damage for amazing pressure(without the nomad cancel the pressure wouldn’t be nearly as good). I think everyone would agree that none of these things were actually game breaking(unbeatable and make the characters better than all the other characters).
Last comment would be why the hell is kabal getting a buff he's is a very solid mid tier character as it is.
Rant over. What do you guys think of the patches so far.
 

GNG Iniquity

#bufftaquito #punchwalk #whiffycage
Kabal's getting his dash cancel removed? Why? It's difficult to time correctly and I don't see how it gives you an unfair advantage. I can understand Cyrax and Quan Chi's traps, but Kabal?
 

THTB

Arez | Booya | Riu48 - Rest Easy, Friends
Kabal has a block infinite. That is why his strings are getting fixed. The cancel is not being changed in anyway...it's the blockstun on f32.

Cyrax has a near-guaranteed 50% from blocking a JP from him or losing in a projectile war. The blocked JP scenario is the biggest offender. He's fine otherwise.

Quan Chi gets 39% if he has full meter and you BLOCK his strings. That's the biggest issue...it's basically X-Ray damage for blocking something as simple as a string.

The changes are meant to make things more fair.
 

GNG Iniquity

#bufftaquito #punchwalk #whiffycage
Sounds fine to me, then. They're removing Sub-Zero's double freeze as well aren't they? I've yet to see an official source for the patch notes. I know Kano's getting his F+3 fixed to hit low and his upball will be on pair with Cage's flipkick in terms of speed; which I'm excited for. Isn't Mileena's roll being fixed to hit low, as well?
 

babalook

Apprentice
So will kabal's f32 nomad cancel be basically worthless now because it'd be better to just do tornado slam or the low special instead of doing the cancel and risk getting jumped over and punished for trying to attack after with anything but a anti air -_-. And is quan chi getting a buff or somthing since isn't he considered bottom tier without the rune trap? And what about cyrax the CG is now basically useless because if you finally land it you then have to make another guess because nothing is garenteed after it now.
 

Trini_Bwoi

Kombatant
The buffs so far are good. Most of the damage nerfs don't come close to making any semblance of sense and so far I think they're taking the wrong approach when patching the 'cheap' tactics the bomb trap and OTG bomb. I'm a little disappointed with the patches/hotfixes so far.