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[PETITION] WB Games, NetherRealm Studios, High Voltage Software: Fix your PC Ports!

Hom Tanks

Hom Tanks

Noob
Dear TYM,

I knew about this site when I purchased Mortal Kombat Komplete Edition in March 2013. I have forever been a MK fan ever since I played MK3 on the SNES in 1996. I had been hooked on the game and remember that when i finished my homework, I would use the unlock screen in the menu to listen to the games soundtrack (hardcore, i know.) Regardless of the fact, I wanted to at LEAST try to be good in this game and rank with others. Unfortunately, where I lived at the time, I had capped internet bandwidth and couldn't do so. So what I did was, I would beat the ladder in Extreme difficulty with Rain, Kung Lao and Mileena. As I dove into the game, I wanted to do combos and learn the whole terminology of the FGC. My objective in this game was simple: Be good and feel important playing the game. I dont care if I ended up as Tom Brady or REO, I just wanted to play the game at a high level. Fast forward 3 months, and I come back to my town where I have unlimited bandwidth and I can play this game on the PC as it just released. I figured "hey, I can now play online and test the limits of my skill and leap off of that." I purchased it, $30 and all, and what I discovered was a complete fucking disgrace to owners of the MK9 port (multiplayer).

To begin with, the singleplayer is absolutely flawless. Everything about it is perfect and smooth. The real issue here is the multiplayer. It is so fucking bad, I have to switch regions on steam to Russia to find people; THE GAME HAS NO REGION LOCK OPTION WHATSOEVER. Whats more annoying is, I have to restart steam everytime to play online. I seriously feel like when this game got ported to PC, High Voltage Software was like "lets focus on the singleplayer and multiplayer we will leave it for last" because when I connect to people in a lobby that I FINALLY found, it would lag so hard in character select, I wanted to ALT+F4 right then and there. The game is terribly optimized for online play.

Example: You have a bad computer? you lag? cool, lets affect it to the other player as well so you can play below 50 fps and not calculate your strings and techs. You cant find people in a lobby? Dont worry, go out of your way, find .ini files in MK folder and change your resolution because the game will not carry your resolution. This will magically make it appear btw, it makes no fucking sense and it shows the poor port transition to the pc.

In conclusion, I want this game to work and I want Injustice to work. Because at the end of the day, I want to land my Kung Lao strings; just like someone wants to land their Cyrax Infinite (I KNOW, ITS HARD TO DO ONLINE; NEARLY IMPOSSIBLE). Injustice suffers the same thing, they neglect the multiplayer portion and it suffers from amazing, addicting, self improving fighting gameplay it originally carries. I want to play Aquaman and Zatanna online! IS THAT TOO MUCH TO ASK?! even if they're low tier, I want to fucking use them just like I use Mileena online even though she is D tier.

Test Your Might forums, please help a fellow Kombatant out by signing this petition:

https://www.change.org/petitions/netherrealm-studios-and-high-voltage-software-please-patch-your-unplayable-multiplayer-mk9-injustice-pc-ports#description

It will help out the MK9 community and in it, lists MORE of these issues the games carry.

Thank you for reading!
 
Mr. Mileena

Mr. Mileena

Champion
Hom Tanks said:
I want to play Aquaman and Zatanna online! IS THAT TOO MUCH TO ASK?! even if they're low tier, I want to fucking use them just like I use Mileena online even though she is D tier.

Test Your Might forums, please help a fellow Kombatant out by signing this petition:

https://www.change.org/petitions/netherrealm-studios-and-high-voltage-software-please-patch-your-unplayable-multiplayer-mk9-injustice-pc-ports#description

It will help out the MK9 community and in it, lists MORE of these issues the games carry.

Thank you for reading!
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Immortal

Immortal

Blind justice....
Hom Tanks said:
Dear TYM,

I knew about this site when I purchased Mortal Kombat Komplete Edition in March 2013. I have forever been a MK fan ever since I played MK3 on the SNES in 1996. I had been hooked on the game and remember that when i finished my homework, I would use the unlock screen in the menu to listen to the games soundtrack (hardcore, i know.) Regardless of the fact, I wanted to at LEAST try to be good in this game and rank with others. Unfortunately, where I lived at the time, I had capped internet bandwidth and couldn't do so. So what I did was, I would beat the ladder in Extreme difficulty with Rain, Kung Lao and Mileena. As I dove into the game, I wanted to do combos and learn the whole terminology of the FGC. My objective in this game was simple: Be good and feel important playing the game. I dont care if I ended up as Tom Brady or REO, I just wanted to play the game at a high level. Fast forward 3 months, and I come back to my town where I have unlimited bandwidth and I can play this game on the PC as it just released. I figured "hey, I can now play online and test the limits of my skill and leap off of that." I purchased it, $30 and all, and what I discovered was a complete fucking disgrace to owners of the MK9 port (multiplayer).

To begin with, the singleplayer is absolutely flawless. Everything about it is perfect and smooth. The real issue here is the multiplayer. It is so fucking bad, I have to switch regions on steam to Russia to find people; THE GAME HAS NO REGION LOCK OPTION WHATSOEVER. Whats more annoying is, I have to restart steam everytime to play online. I seriously feel like when this game got ported to PC, High Voltage Software was like "lets focus on the singleplayer and multiplayer we will leave it for last" because when I connect to people in a lobby that I FINALLY found, it would lag so hard in character select, I wanted to ALT+F4 right then and there. The game is terribly optimized for online play.

Example: You have a bad computer? you lag? cool, lets affect it to the other player as well so you can play below 50 fps and not calculate your strings and techs. You cant find people in a lobby? Dont worry, go out of your way, find .ini files in MK folder and change your resolution because the game will not carry your resolution. This will magically make it appear btw, it makes no fucking sense and it shows the poor port transition to the pc.

In conclusion, I want this game to work and I want Injustice to work. Because at the end of the day, I want to land my Kung Lao strings; just like someone wants to land their Cyrax Infinite (I KNOW, ITS HARD TO DO ONLINE; NEARLY IMPOSSIBLE). Injustice suffers the same thing, they neglect the multiplayer portion and it suffers from amazing, addicting, self improving fighting gameplay it originally carries. I want to play Aquaman and Zatanna online! IS THAT TOO MUCH TO ASK?! even if they're low tier, I want to fucking use them just like I use Mileena online even though she is D tier.

Test Your Might forums, please help a fellow Kombatant out by signing this petition:

https://www.change.org/petitions/netherrealm-studios-and-high-voltage-software-please-patch-your-unplayable-multiplayer-mk9-injustice-pc-ports#description

It will help out the MK9 community and in it, lists MORE of these issues the games carry.

Thank you for reading!
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It's late here and im tired...... but man you're lacking technical knowledge to make that sort of statements.

Lets start with obvious points:

1. PC aren't consoles, in most cases the difference in multiplayer experience in MK or IGAU between this two platforms is related to the fact that there is no hardware issues on consoles, everything is the same for everybody. There is no "i got solid 60 fps but the other person have 50 fps" which gonna make game run in slow motion which is often the case on PC.

2. Neither MK/IGAU or Unreal Engine was designed to run on dual GPU laptops on which people often have problems with this game. In this case usually only first (weak) graphical card is used meaning horribly low fps.

3. MK and IGAU netcode by design is tied to fps / physics of the game which means any drop in fps or high latency not to mention lost packets will cause serious gameplay issues including: slow motion, "game session is no longer available", "game session has desynchronized"

4. Mortal Kombat 9 netcode was bad even on consoles and IGAU ones is only a bit improved version of it.

5. Netcode was designed by NRS not HVS which made only the port and to be honest it is 1:1 althou has some minor bugs (for example in IGAU keys configuration need to be saved every time you star the game, there were a problem with shadows etc.. but nothing really that big)

6. To have decent netcode with high latency (and for fighting games high means anything above 80 ms [this is not some FPP game or Fifa where higher values are acceptable], which is a value you get like from one country to next one in EU but for example EU -> USA is usually around 150 - 250 ms) developers should use GGPO (example - Killer Instinct). Lets hope for it in next MK/IGAU game.

7. In IGAU (PC) MP regions have been lifted which means people are often connected (in ranked) from EU to USA/other countries from far away which causes such high latency (read above) that game just give you after few seconds "game session is no longer available" since its impossible to maintain synchronization with it. Obviously this was made coz people were whining that there is nobody to play with in EU or USA alone (like that would be developers faulth lol - people are crazy, really). One of good examples why developers shouldn't listen to most people on forums coz like 99% of them have no clue what the asked changes gonna make in the long run.

8. THERE IS NOTHING TO PATCH HERE ---> what u are asking would req. a complete redesign of large part of the games (MK/IGAU) which simple wont happen for several obvious reasons.

9. Aquaman and Zatanna low tier? Man.... just stop.
 
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Hom Tanks

Hom Tanks

Noob
lol thanks for the replies.

My point was that if I wanted to play low tier champs I will just for the fuck of it. Just like I play Mileena
and Rain
 
Mikemetroid

Mikemetroid

Who hired this guy, WTF?
Lead Moderator
Yeah the online and the game's interface is hilariously bad for both mk9 and igau.

Did you know that Noob Saibot's EX Ghost Ball actually desyncs a game?

Clicking the "a" button to view your friends to invite them to a game crashes the game both on IGAU and MK9?

A horde of Russians will add you if youre notably good?

Warner Bros needs to give the OK to HVS to fix this shit....damn Russians....
 
Hom Tanks

Hom Tanks

Noob
Immortal said:
It's late here and im tired...... but man you're lacking technical knowledge to make that sort of statements.

Lets start with obvious points:

1. PC aren't consoles, in most cases the difference in multiplayer experience in MK or IGAU between this two platforms is related to the fact that there is no hardware issues on consoles, everything is the same for everybody. There is no "i got solid 60 fps but the other person have 50 fps" which gonna make game run in slow motion which is often the case on PC.

2. Neither MK/IGAU or Unreal Engine was designed to run on dual GPU laptops on which people often have problems with this game. In this case usually only first (weak) graphical card is used meaning horribly low fps.

3. MK and IGAU netcode by design is tied to fps / physics of the game which means any drop in fps or high latency not to mention lost packets will cause serious gameplay issues including: slow motion, "game session is no longer available", "game session has desynchronized"

4. Mortal Kombat 9 netcode was bad even on consoles and IGAU ones is only a bit improved version of it.

5. Netcode was designed by NRS not HVS which made only the port and to be honest it is 1:1 althou has some minor bugs (for example in IGAU keys configuration need to be saved every time you star the game, there were a problem with shadows etc.. but nothing really that big)

6. To have decent netcode with high latency (and for fighting games high means anything above 80 ms [this not some FPP game or Fifa where higher values are acceptable], which is a value you get like from one country to next one in EU but for example EU -> USA is usually around 150 - 250 ms) developers should use GGPO (example - Killer Instinct). Lets hope for it in next MK/IGAU game.

7. In IGAU (PC) MP regions have been lifted which means people are often connected (in ranked) from EU to USA/other countries from far away which causes such high latency (read above) that game just give you after few seconds "game session is no longer available" since its impossible to maintain synchronization with it. Obviously this was made coz people were whining that there is nobody to play with in EU or USA alone (like that would be developers faulth lol - people are crazy, really). One of good examples why developers shouldn't listen to most people on forums coz like 99% of them have no clue what the asked changes gonna make in the long run.

8. THERE IS NOTHING TO PATCH HERE ---> what u are asking would req. a complete redesign large part of the games (MK/IGAU) which simple wont happen for several obvious reasons.

9. Aquaman and Zatanna low tier? Man.... just stop.
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1. I agree, but there are optimizations for computer games where if you wanted to lower your settings and go 60 fps, then yes, it can be fixed.
MK is not optimized for it.

2. Its not even on laptops, people cant run it on some of their towers that can run ARMA 2 on Max settings.

3. This technically ties into #1

4. I agree, netcode was already bad. I dont ask for a perfect nectode, I ask for a less miserable, more compatible experience for everyone.

5. ok

6. cool, lets bother them about that too

7. I want Region Lock because I want the freedom to connect to EU if given the chance. I dont want to restart Steam everytime. Should not be a hassle.

8. Its not a redesign, if adding a mute mic button, a region lock addition, and better optimization is a complete rework then youve gone bonkers lol

9. Dont care, If I want to play who I want, I fucking will. Deal with it
 
Hom Tanks

Hom Tanks

Noob
Mikemetroid said:
Yeah the online and the game's interface is hilariously bad for both mk9 and igau.

Did you know that Noob Saibot's EX Ghost Ball actually desyncs a game?

Clicking the "a" button to view your friends to invite them to a game crashes the game both on IGAU and MK9?

A horde of Russians will add you if your notably good?

Warner Bros needs to give the OK to HVS to fix this shit....damn Russians....
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YES SOMEONE KNOWS MY INVITE FRIEND CRASH PAIN!!
 
NoobHunter420

NoobHunter420

Scrub God Lord
Isn't the PC version suppose to have a better experience?
Aquaman low tier? wtf, I almost choked on my soda l0l
that would explain why brady has yet to make top 8
 
Mikemetroid

Mikemetroid

Who hired this guy, WTF?
Lead Moderator
NoobHunter420 said:
Isn't the PC version suppose to have a better experience?
Aquaman low tier? wtf, I almost choked on my soda l0l
that would explain why brady has yet to make top 8
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Well when it works it blows the console versions out of the water completely. Gameplay wise of course. Its the interface and netcode that suffer horrendously
 
Hom Tanks

Hom Tanks

Noob
NoobHunter420 said:
Isn't the PC version suppose to have a better experience?
Aquaman low tier? wtf, I almost choked on my soda l0l
that would explain why brady has yet to make top 8
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People would assume it to be but, I was really let down by the comments in the Steam community.

ALSO, this game is off 50% on Steam front page. Its a fucking crime to buy this game in this condition
 
Immortal

Immortal

Blind justice....
Hom Tanks said:
1. I agree, but there are optimizations for computer games where if you wanted to lower your settings and go 60 fps, then yes, it can be fixed.
MK is not optimized for it.

2. Its not even on laptops, people cant run it on some of their towers that can run ARMA 2 on Max settings.

3. This technically ties into #1

4. I agree, netcode was already bad. I dont ask for a perfect nectode, I ask for a less miserable, more compatible experience for everyone.

5. ok

6. cool, lets bother them about that too

7. I want Region Lock because I want the freedom to connect to EU if given the chance. I dont want to restart Steam everytime. Should not be a hassle.

8. Its not a redesign, if adding a mute mic button, a region lock addition, and better optimization is a complete rework then youve gone bonkers lol

9. Dont care, If I want to play who I want, I fucking will. Deal with it
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2. Really doesn't matter. There is no point in comparing different games and engines

7. Wait, you want Region Lock? MK is region locked, IGAU is not.

8. Those are minor bugs. Changing netcode however would need a serious rewrite and this wont happen for several obvious reasons.

Hom Tanks said:
People would assume it to be but, I was really let down by the comments in the Steam community.

ALSO, this game is off 50% on Steam front page. Its a fucking crime to buy this game in this condition
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It works fine if you play with friends to which you have low latency and all of them can maintain stable 60 fps. If those condition are meet, game works fine. For the price now its a crime to not buy the game if you like FG and don't own the on consoles already.

Dont get me wrong both games have several issues but taking into account that before MK: KE we didnt have any NRS on PC for years i will take what we get.
 
Groove Heaven

Groove Heaven

Jobber-baron
NRS isn't going to patch an almost 3-year-old game because of a petition on Change.org

It sucks, but all you can do is pray MK10 is as good online as people say KI is.
 
Hom Tanks

Hom Tanks

Noob
Groove Heaven said:
NRS isn't going to patch an almost 3-year-old game because of a petition on Change.org

It sucks, but all you can do is pray MK10 is as good online as people say KI is.
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Even if they dont patch MK9, I want them to patch Injustice. Cause that game is on sale and has issues
 
S

Sami

Warrior
Had no real problem playing against 3/4 bar connections on Steam with Injustice. Fuck ranked though.
 
DownfouralitY

DownfouralitY

Master
Well IDK if this ties into this thread but netherrealm PLEASE patch Injustice on vita, it's basically unplayable on 10/15 stages because of the framerate drops. Total fucking bullshit
 
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