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This thread will probably be looked at as pointless but it's worth trying at this point to at least say something.
I think it's a shame this character only gets negative attention all the time. It's depressing to know that him along with Tanya (obviously) at this point are the only characters that haven't received a buff. No one ever admits the flaws this character has and no one else have proved why this character doesn't need a fix.
Honestly I don't care about the clone bug. It's pretty clear it's a bug if we can't use it anyway. It would be nice if we just got other changes to his other variations so they are worth using like a run cancel hammer in cryo or a better parry in unbreakable. I would love to use the other variations.
By this point in the game you have already seen characters like Kenshi, kitana, Takeda, Kano, etc get a flood buffs and changes with the right amount of threads and community "leaders" say something why they need something. (Kitana has received buffs for the last 3 patches with nothing shorter than 7 changes). I don't know if it's us not speaking enough about it or people just don't like Tom Brady or this character.
For one, I don't think there is anything wrong in what Tom is doing by giving appropriate examples on what issues or bugs sub has and ideas we want to use but can't because of a restriction. Lot of us have tried to just move on from trying to get something fixed for us and just playing the character for what he has but it's hard for those that try to play him at the highest level. We're told to switch characters. (Which isn't the way the game is designed to be. We should be able to switch to a variation that offers another set of tools that another one lacks.)
Jacqui got her combos for the most part to work on females now - sub still has that issue
17f overhead (one of the slowest in the game) and it's -14 when a lot of the strong characters have safe mixups.
An Ex clone that doesn't work. (I don't understand how it's not a bug and that's the way it's intended. It doesn't come out and I've noticed this problem within the first 2 weeks of the game.)
No anti air in unbreakable and parry doesn't work on jump attacks. (Lost frost bomb and his uppercut has a bad hitbox.) It's really hard to turtle or play defensive when you are free to jump attacks.
Cryomancer- restand doesn't leave you plus and frost hammer is way to slow. (Cold blooded combo leaves them too far away nor is it plus enough to even threaten a mixup)
None of his other variations really add anything to his game that clone can't provide besides cryomancer's better uppercut. Based off his movelist and the frame data he is given you can't effectively play this character in other variations besides grandmaster.
This character as of now will probably never get buffed or reworked (when it comes to other variations). It sucks that at this point this character has plateaued in such a short time.
This thread is going to get a lot of hate and "suck it up" and "adapt" but it's unfair that a lot of other community leaders couldn't do this themselves and got their changes when our own Tom and the rest of the SZ community gets negativity and told that were crying. (Over a clone that has a small hitbox at the very end of it)
It's obvious this game is suppose to be competitive and I think every variation should be worth using. I don't think asking for a "bug fix" or even just one change to help him out at all is too much to ask for at this point.
My real problem isn't because of an unsafe overhead, or whether something is a bug of not of hitbox issues but the fact we have been ignored and not given any real answers.
Being told we have a 0-3% chance of getting a buff is depressing.
I think you should just nerf him one more time to finally put the nail in the coffin for us.
It's really frustrating that we're ignored and one of our community leaders is being told that they are making a negative impact on the whole scene. It's ironic actually since the issue of over patching in this game isn't even related to this character or him at all.
I could make a list of "high profile playerss", commentators, community leaders who go off on twitter, TYM, and etc and say _____ blank has issues, is cheap, needs this, nerf this and still don't even place in top 8 at a major let alone received the buffs for their character and then place even top 16. I'm not going to do that though. They know who they are.
For those who think I'm a random scrub complaining, I play on PSN: Count_Reginald.
I'll change that way of thinking no problem and if you have problems with the matchup I have no problem telling you how to win it and what options you have.
Go ahead and set this thread on fire.
I think it's a shame this character only gets negative attention all the time. It's depressing to know that him along with Tanya (obviously) at this point are the only characters that haven't received a buff. No one ever admits the flaws this character has and no one else have proved why this character doesn't need a fix.
Honestly I don't care about the clone bug. It's pretty clear it's a bug if we can't use it anyway. It would be nice if we just got other changes to his other variations so they are worth using like a run cancel hammer in cryo or a better parry in unbreakable. I would love to use the other variations.
By this point in the game you have already seen characters like Kenshi, kitana, Takeda, Kano, etc get a flood buffs and changes with the right amount of threads and community "leaders" say something why they need something. (Kitana has received buffs for the last 3 patches with nothing shorter than 7 changes). I don't know if it's us not speaking enough about it or people just don't like Tom Brady or this character.
For one, I don't think there is anything wrong in what Tom is doing by giving appropriate examples on what issues or bugs sub has and ideas we want to use but can't because of a restriction. Lot of us have tried to just move on from trying to get something fixed for us and just playing the character for what he has but it's hard for those that try to play him at the highest level. We're told to switch characters. (Which isn't the way the game is designed to be. We should be able to switch to a variation that offers another set of tools that another one lacks.)
Jacqui got her combos for the most part to work on females now - sub still has that issue
17f overhead (one of the slowest in the game) and it's -14 when a lot of the strong characters have safe mixups.
An Ex clone that doesn't work. (I don't understand how it's not a bug and that's the way it's intended. It doesn't come out and I've noticed this problem within the first 2 weeks of the game.)
No anti air in unbreakable and parry doesn't work on jump attacks. (Lost frost bomb and his uppercut has a bad hitbox.) It's really hard to turtle or play defensive when you are free to jump attacks.
Cryomancer- restand doesn't leave you plus and frost hammer is way to slow. (Cold blooded combo leaves them too far away nor is it plus enough to even threaten a mixup)
None of his other variations really add anything to his game that clone can't provide besides cryomancer's better uppercut. Based off his movelist and the frame data he is given you can't effectively play this character in other variations besides grandmaster.
This character as of now will probably never get buffed or reworked (when it comes to other variations). It sucks that at this point this character has plateaued in such a short time.
This thread is going to get a lot of hate and "suck it up" and "adapt" but it's unfair that a lot of other community leaders couldn't do this themselves and got their changes when our own Tom and the rest of the SZ community gets negativity and told that were crying. (Over a clone that has a small hitbox at the very end of it)
It's obvious this game is suppose to be competitive and I think every variation should be worth using. I don't think asking for a "bug fix" or even just one change to help him out at all is too much to ask for at this point.
My real problem isn't because of an unsafe overhead, or whether something is a bug of not of hitbox issues but the fact we have been ignored and not given any real answers.
Being told we have a 0-3% chance of getting a buff is depressing.
I think you should just nerf him one more time to finally put the nail in the coffin for us.
It's really frustrating that we're ignored and one of our community leaders is being told that they are making a negative impact on the whole scene. It's ironic actually since the issue of over patching in this game isn't even related to this character or him at all.
I could make a list of "high profile playerss", commentators, community leaders who go off on twitter, TYM, and etc and say _____ blank has issues, is cheap, needs this, nerf this and still don't even place in top 8 at a major let alone received the buffs for their character and then place even top 16. I'm not going to do that though. They know who they are.
For those who think I'm a random scrub complaining, I play on PSN: Count_Reginald.
I'll change that way of thinking no problem and if you have problems with the matchup I have no problem telling you how to win it and what options you have.
Go ahead and set this thread on fire.
