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Question - Bojutsu KJs top 5 worst match ups?

LiangHuBBB

Warrior
Hi KJ forum I been asking me which are KJs worst match ups currently?
Been playing KJ, Takeda and Subzero since the release of MKX and played approx 4k+ games so far.
I feel like those are KJs worst match ups:

1. Quan Chi
2. Shinnok
3. Kitana
4. Scorpion
5. Jac Briggs

Is that right? Correct me, if I am wrong.
Thanks for reading.
 

Mint

too weird to live, too rare to die
I main shaolin but I don't have problems with briggs. Kitana isn't bad just have to be patient. I can't speak for everyone but my problem characters are like this...
Scorpion, Ermac, Summoner Quan, Takeda

I really have problems with off screen teleports for some reason
 

YoloRoll1stHit

Publicly Educated
Which Kitana though. In all 3 variations she doesn't have mixup, don't take unnecessary risk and Kung Jin won't eat big combo. But....
In Royal storm, her fan deals minor damage on you if you patiently duck it and careful jump. In Mournful her glaive is mid, can be controlled to fly upwards and ex glaive is hella plus on block. She does much more chip in mournful. What do you think? Is Mournful or RS harder to fight?
 

Alvhe Feleo

Due tomorrow? Do tomorrow.
1. Quan Chi
2. Shinnok
3. Kitana
4. Scorpion
5. Jac Briggs
I've only played vs royal storm Kitanas but those are easy, exBF3 to close in, punish her as soon as you block her tornado juggle (if you take it to the face she will 30% you) and punish fans jumping over into divekick and be careful with the ex fan uppercut. I don't know about assassins or mournfuls since everyone plays royal storm (apparently they want to mirror sonicfox?)

Shinnok and quan chi are strong overall, specially quan chi if he spams armor circles.

I only find Skorpion particularly strong with inferno (those mixups...), the rest are as easy as poking, waiting for teleport/chains and punishing.

I understand the 5th one is Jax and not Jacqui, that's one of the easiest MUs I've found, he's tough with all those "gotcha!" command grabs but not even close to Erron Black.

Also depending on your variation, Kung Lao is a really hard MU in any variation, but specially buzz saw.

Why is Lao so difficult for KJ? I main tempest Lao and I don't have an especially easy time fighting KJ.
If you know Jin's strings it's easy. His specials are too unsafe so if you block accordingly he's toast.
For example, forcing him to divekick you and blocking gives you enough time to smoke a cigar, think about the meaning of life and then punishing, also his most common string is the advancing mid b214xx ex db3 which is a mid,low,mid,overhead combo that you have to block low and then high and punish with whatever you want, if you fail you get juggled into 30%+. The only problem comes when he mixes f2 with b1 startups because it's low or overhead first and you have to guess but bojutsu doesn't have safe enders.

On a side note, I don't like tempest because you lose the advancing ex spin, but I think you can jail with 112124xx orbiting hat. Also don't try to outplay him offensively because you will lose (he has better range and 50/50s and your lows are bad unlike the overheads), be patient and you win.
 
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deg222

Best Zatanna that uses Aquaman
I don't know what kind of Tanya you have fought but trying to njp Tanya gets you full combo punished.
And how exactly does she full combo punish? She has DLC syndrome where she gets extra push back on standing block.
 

TackyHaddock

Salty Mashers Krew
Why is Lao so difficult for KJ? I main tempest Lao and I don't have an especially easy time fighting KJ.
Tempest Lao is definitely the hardest matchup for KJ imo. ex spin is always a threat and weakens KJ's oki options. That, combined with the orbiting hat pressure and the threat of the teleport throw really counters most of KJ's strengths.

Other most difficult matchups:

-Ermac MOS
-Shinnok (boneshaper AND imposter, maybe even more so imposter)
-hunter/hqt pred (hunter more so imo, as in HQT at least you can low profile high lasers with low chakrams in shaolin, but probably sucks just as much for Bojutsu)
-going on a limb here with this one, but SD cage has given me a ton of problems, maybe it's just that i don't know the matchup well enough yet
 

FinalBoss_FGC

Day -4MONTHS Dual Jin main
I don't see why Shinnok would beat him any worse than 4-6. Jin has good mobility and great footsies, as well as dominant jump attacks.
Since when did Shinnok give a fuck about people jumping? Haha I do agree its 4-6 or so. If low chakram was low profile it'd be closer to even. I feel most comfortable being full screen then mb armor flying kick through beam. I can agree an even 4-6 tho.
 

TackyHaddock

Salty Mashers Krew
I don't see why Shinnok would beat him any worse than 4-6. Jin has good mobility and great footsies, as well as dominant jump attacks.
hellsparks are not punishable enough imo. Also, darkbeam. and can you please tell me how to properly punish the damn teleport in imposter?
 

FinalBoss_FGC

Day -4MONTHS Dual Jin main
My synopsis

Tempest Lao beats Bojutsu but even with ShaoJin. Shaolin out zones him and you can react to tele free.

Boneshaper wins 4-6 vs all KJ variations (Ancestral may go even now that low arrow is supposed to low profile but fuck Ancestral)

Tanya and ShaoJin is 4.5-5.5 in Tanya's favor. But that has nothing to do with ShaoJin's inabilities...its just Tanya and she's dumb.

I still think a Heavy Weapons Jax is a problem for BoJintsu but idk about ShaoJin.

I can see HQT beating BoJintsu but Shaolin probably more even given mb up kick...it'd be like 4.5-5.5 HQT favor imho
 

Alvhe Feleo

Due tomorrow? Do tomorrow.
I wouldn't say Tanya wins against KJ bojutsu, specially since you can flame ball her out of teleport, or even d2/NJP/high arrow to hell and back. Dragon naginata could be a pain under certain conditions though.

And shinnok... well, if he abuses hell sparks just BF3 rc into full combo, 37% out of nowhere. Teleport is best handled with B1 starter combos.