How oppressive is J2 actually?

[Dankster Morgan]

How bad is J2 really? I'm not talking about the crossup mixups after a grapple restand. I'm not downplaying, I don't even play Batman.

My question to Batman players and anyone who plays any characters, how many characters actually can't challenge Batman's jump IN THE NEUTRAL?

 

[Crusty]

It’s really hard to tell if it crosses up or not. So difficult not even batman players know.

Red Hood can trade in most instances with it. Problem is if he’s off, he can’t snipe it with his d2 due to the lack of decent active frames. He can contest it with j1 but my air to airs are shit.

 

[Nexallus]

It's just a stupid crossup to be honest. I'm not sure about "oppressive" though.

 

[Two First Names]

As a regular jump in it is only good, but combined with the sparkles and double jump it becomes great. As a crossover it is literally one of the dumbest moves in the game.

 

[RM Jonnitti]

for some characters that don't really have fast grounded anti airs its really hard to get him to stop jumping. which is incredibly stupid because constantly jumping is considered overall to be a fundamentally poor decision

 

[EMPRESS_SunFire]

The hitbox, frame data and properties it has are just too much, not to mention how hard it is to tell if it's gonna cross up or not in some scenarios. Some characters can actually challenge it but it must suck to play someone with bad AAs against him...

 

[gam224]

Make jump 2 not cross up and give me my + batarangs back please NRS

 

[SaucyD0ge]

Make jump 2 not cross up and give me my + batarangs back please NRS

And then people be like:why is mb batarang plus, it’s too hard on my nerves&I don’t know how to backdash so pls nerf mb batarang

 

[Illmatix]

It's actually quite liberating, Batman foot smells like freedom.

 

[MartianMagic]

Oppressive enough like half the threads on this forum are on a single move.

Honestly though I'd rather nerf the bats.

 

[SaucyD0ge]

Oppressive enough like half the threads on this forum are on a single move.

Honestly though I'd rather nerf the bats.

People need to learn how to pushblock, like, it really helps out a lot:
Gets rid of bats
Puts Batman away from you where he can be zoned out

 

[DrZmmm]

I swear I can rarely tell which side he's gonna land on and by the time I do, it's too late. It feels like the game itself doesn't know which side to put him on til the last second

 

[masherofbuttons]

People need to learn how to pushblock, like, it really helps out a lot:
Gets rid of bats
Puts Batman away from you where he can be zoned out

This implies you play a character that can zone batman instead of get zoned out by him

 

[SaucyD0ge]

This implies you play a character that can zone batman instead of get zoned out by him

Batman zones rushdowners pretty well(except for Catwoman, full screen jump normal lol).