Question How do you Rax?

[STB Sgt Reed]

I know some of the small things but when you're trying to learn a character you always feel overwhelmed. At least, I do.

There needs to be a guide in here or something. Like I see Krayzie's guide on matchups, and the button input guide, but no real cyrax basics and advanced things kind of guide. Unless I'm blind. If I am just link me to it.

Anyway, trying to pick up Cyrax again b/c of the hype from Dallas and b/c I keep hearing tom brady and some others saying you can play him like you play Sub Zero. Being a sub main, that sounds great to me.

I'm just unsure what to do with Cyrax pressure/blockstring wise/mixup wise/setup wise and such when I don't have the opponent in a net.

Any advice on what is good to do, or even what isn't good to do?

 

[Chongo]

Net and a dream homie.

 

[Skitzo]

This is why a 45 year old shouldn't play video games

 

[STB Sgt Reed]

Net and a dream homie.

That's all well and good, but what are you doing with Cyrax in the meantime?

Like, here's an example: Say you do the command grab. Well, I know you get a free jump in after that... but what are the other options off of a landed command grab?

This is why a 45 year old shouldn't play video games

Thanks for the helpful post, brah.

 

[Skitzo]

On another note, Cyrax does interest me so i have taken some notes down.

Yes, he can be played like an armored sub zero in SOME matches ie. Cage, Sonya, Jax. Bombs & turtle. Bombs being clone.

His pressure is based around his command grab loop imo. Mixing it in with normals & a couple of d4s. All of his strings are neutral, 1 12 21 2 212 etc.

learn to hit confirm off 11/12/21 into net if landed during your pressure

example of some pressure: command grab. jip 2 command grab jip 12 2 command grab. etc.

some strings whiff on small hitbox characters so keep that in mind.

f2 is like +100 on block & 334 is +5. d4 has a good amount of + frames.

He does struggle against zoners, but you play subzero so you'll feel at home.

 

[Skitzo]

That's all well and good, but what are you doing with Cyrax in the meantime?

Like, here's an example: Say you do the command grab. Well, I know you get a free jump in after that... but what are the other options off of a landed command grab?
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You can f2 & check them if to see if they know you're at + frames. jip d4 works fine too. Jip into another grab is common which can lead into your opponent trying to tech the grab = 11/21/12 into net.

I also like to end strings fully at times bc some people don't expect it.

like 121buzzsaw or 212

 

[Chongo]

Thanks for the helpful post, brah.

LBSH, like I know anything about Cyrax. I just saw you created the thread, and trolling you is too good to pass up.

 

[STB Sgt Reed]

You can f2 & check them if to see if they know you're at + frames. jip d4 works fine too. Jip into another grab is common which can lead into your opponent trying to tech the grab = 11/21/12 into net.

I also like to end strings fully at times bc some people don't expect it.

like 121buzzsaw or 212

Aren't there some kind of bomb setups that go along with command grab?

 

[Skitzo]

Aren't there some kind of bomb setups that go along with command grab?

I'm not sure if the grab gives enough hit + for a free bomb. Although, I've seen in another thread f2-bomb is only -1 on block. enjoy

 

[Seapeople]

Like, here's an example: Say you do the command grab. Well, I know you get a free jump in after that... but what are the other options off of a landed command grab

Command grab again. It sounds simple but its absolutely one of the best options. Eating 14% over and over adds up fast. Just make sure you get good at hitconfirming into a net like people have already said.

As for bomb traps, they're usually set up by putting your opponent into hit or block stun, giving them no time to escape the bomb. Some examples would be d4 or 12 onto a close bomb, blocked net onto a far bomb, etc.

 

[STB Sgt Reed]

Command grab again. It sounds simple but its absolutely one of the best options. Eating 14% over and over adds up fast. Just make sure you get good at hitconfirming into a net like people have already said.

As for bomb traps, they're usually set up by putting your opponent into hit or block stun, giving them no time to escape the bomb. Some examples would be d4 or 12 onto a close bomb, blocked net onto a far bomb, etc.

Yeah, I knew about command grabbing again... I just wanted to know the other options. You can't always command grab again every time or people will expect it and unblock or tech or w/e.

There really needs to be a guide in this forum. lol

 

[STB Sgt Reed]

On another note, Cyrax does interest me so i have taken some notes down.

Yes, he can be played like an armored sub zero in SOME matches ie. Cage, Sonya, Jax. Bombs & turtle. Bombs being clone.

His pressure is based around his command grab loop imo. Mixing it in with normals & a couple of d4s. All of his strings are neutral, 1 12 21 2 212 etc.

learn to hit confirm off 11/12/21 into net if landed during your pressure

example of some pressure: command grab. jip 2 command grab jip 12 2 command grab. etc.

some strings whiff on small hitbox characters so keep that in mind.

f2 is like +100 on block & 334 is +5. d4 has a good amount of + frames.

He does struggle against zoners, but you play subzero so you'll feel at home.

I lol'd at the last line! XD

 

[Seapeople]

Yeah, I knew about command grabbing again... I just wanted to know the other options. You can't always command grab again every time or people will expect it and unblock or tech or w/e.

There really needs to be a guide in this forum. lol

You want people to start teching the grab because that means potential 80% or more damage if you guess right. Its probably the best mix up in the game honestly.
There's a big Cyrax community guide sticky btw. Its got good info about block string pressure

 

[STB Sgt Reed]

You want people to start teching the grab because that means potential 80% or more damage if you guess right. Its probably the best mix up in the game honestly.
There's a big Cyrax community guide sticky btw. Its got good info about block string pressure

haha, wow... I didn't even see that guide man. I saw Krayzie's and the button input guide. oh well, thanks.

I'll just use this as a questions I have about Cyrax thread then.

 

[STB Sgt Reed]

Seapeople

How do you land the exbomb into b2 far bomb in the following reset...

jps,2,1~net, jps,2,1~Exb, b2, fb, ff~1,2,1~cb, net, b2, d2, 3,3~net, djk, d2

 

[Chongo]

Seapeople

How do you land the exbomb into b2 far bomb in the following reset...

jps,2,1~net, jps,2,1~Exb, b2, fb, ff~1,2,1~cb, net, b2, d2, 3,3~net, djk, d2

Highlight the part you are having trouble with. I'm in practice with rax right now.

 

[Seapeople]

Seapeople

How do you land the exbomb into b2 far bomb in the following reset...

jps,2,1~net, jps,2,1~Exb, b2, fb, ff~1,2,1~cb, net, b2, d2, 3,3~net, djk, d2

Buffer the bbf inputs for the far bomb as soon as you hit them with b2. Throwing out the far bomb as soon as possible gives you more time to dash up and 121. Thats about the best i know how to describe it. Just takes lots of practice.
I doubt you played MKDC, but in case you did, buffering the far bomb is similar to doing Liu kang's 233~bbf4 combo

 

[Skitzo]

Seapeople

How do you land the exbomb into b2 far bomb in the following reset...

jps,2,1~net, jps,2,1~Exb, b2, fb, ff~1,2,1~cb, net, b2, d2, 3,3~net, djk, d2

When you do b2, buffer bf4 & it should come out. Just takes practice & small execution.

You have to buffer it right when the b2 pops them up.

 

[Lt. Boxy Angelman]

Think of the Net as a moving Clone, and the Bombs as stationary Ice Balls.

Best, most fluid and synchronized pair of mains you can have in this game, IMO.
They both have the same hit and run, read and destroy playstyle.
It's just one is optimized for heavy offense, and the other for cerebral defense.

The Lin Kuei <3

 

[STB Sgt Reed]

Highlight the part you are having trouble with. I'm in practice with rax right now.

Right after the b2 ... I can usually get a far bomb out, but 121 doesn't connect or connects too late.

 

[Skitzo]

Right after the b2 ... I can usually get a far bomb out, but 121 doesn't connect or connects too late.

It doesn't connect because you are probably buffering it late & that causes you to take a step back THEN far bomb, which causes the 121 to whiff even if you dash. Other than that, if you do it correctly it should always connect lol

 

[Lt. Boxy Angelman]

I still think the consistency of the 123 reset makes it worth trading for the B2 Far Bomb, but that's me.
Plus, if I dash too far away or close when I'm putting out the Mid Bomb, I can still drop him on it with an uppercut/22 (too far) or a 12/21 Close Bomb (too close) to keep the BnB going.

 

[STB Sgt Reed]

I still think the consistency of the 123 reset makes it worth trading for the B2 Far Bomb, but that's me.
Plus, if I dash too far away or close when I'm putting out the Mid Bomb, I can still drop him on it with an uppercut/22 (too far) or a 12/21 Close Bomb (too close) to keep the BnB going.

LOL, I can't do that one at all.

 

[STB Sgt Reed]

So, I recorded a video of me failing that reset I've been trying on my phone whilst holding it b/w my knees. lmao

Please tell me what I am doing wrong.

at :53 is my best attempt where I actually land the part I was having trouble with. How do you land that next B2 to continue the combo?

 

[Skitzo]

So, I recorded a video of me failing that reset I've been trying on my phone whilst holding it b/w my knees. lmao

Please tell me what I am doing wrong.

at :53 is my best attempt where I actually land the part I was having trouble with. How do you land that next B2 to continue the combo?

Cute seeing you go up a notch from your 214slide/b121 combos lol