How do i beat a Jago who runs and abuses wind kick?

[R3CK3Dx]

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[Qwark28]

shadow counter

 

[R3CK3Dx]

shadow counter

can i shadow counter a single hit?

 

[Qwark28]

can i shadow counter a single hit?

I think you can shadow counter the last hit to make it unsafe.

Heard that a lot of shit is unsafe when you use shadow counter.

 

[R3CK3Dx]

I think you can shadow counter the last hit to make it unsafe.

Heard that a lot of shit is unsafe when you use shadow counter.

but it only hits once

 

[NurzBenny]

What's the pattern in which they're using windkick? Fullscreen get ins? A low short or low forward cancel into one?

If they become predictable, just shadow counter right before windkick hits. The only multiple hitting one is shadow windkick, so it should be a free punish everytime.

 

[R3CK3Dx]

What's the pattern in which they're using windkick? Fullscreen get ins? A low short or low forward cancel into one?

If they become predictable, just shadow counter right before windkick hits. The only multiple hitting one is shadow windkick, so it should be a free punish everytime.

so if i see him do the near full screen one what did i press? i know how to counter shadow moves on block but not the normal version?

 

[NurzBenny]

It should work the same. medium punch plus medium kick. I'm 99% sure you can SC single hits, that aren't followed up by anything. But if I'm wrong lemme know so I don't end up getting myself killed next time I play.

Also what character do you use? (saberwolf If I had to venture)

 

[R3CK3Dx]

It should work the same. medium punch plus medium kick. I'm 99% sure you can SC single hits, that aren't followed up by anything. But if I'm wrong lemme know so I don't end up getting myself killed next time I play.

Also what character do you use? (saberwolf If I had to venture)

ill test it out and yeah sabrewulf so far and im stuck on rank 4 win lots then lose one and lose lots of points

 

[R3CK3Dx]

It should work the same. medium punch plus medium kick. I'm 99% sure you can SC single hits, that aren't followed up by anything. But if I'm wrong lemme know so I don't end up getting myself killed next time I play.

Also what character do you use? (saberwolf If I had to venture)

i tried it all that is happening is im lighting up sort of and getting hit or blocking it?

 

[NurzBenny]

if you're lighting up, then you're just missing the timing. But I'll test it out. In the mean time. Umm if you can get the read on how the jags are blocking, then saberwolfs run <-- --> K, and either light kick for the low, or mk for the overhead. Shadow <-- --> P is invincible on start up as well.

 

[R3CK3Dx]

if you're lighting up, then you're just missing the timing. But I'll test it out. In the mean time. Umm if you can get the read on how the jags are blocking, then saberwolfs run <-- --> K, and either light kick for the low, or mk for the overhead. Shadow <-- --> P is invincible on start up as well.

thanks, im thinking of trying a new character not sure who tho

 

[NurzBenny]

Down Up any punch, will blow up any reckless windkicks. But yeah, good to try everyone and get a feel. Jago as plain as he is, is pretty awesome to me.

 

[R3CK3Dx]

Down Up any punch, will blow up any reckless windkicks. But yeah, good to try everyone and get a feel. Jago as plain as he is, is pretty awesome to me.

yeah iv been trying to use that move more mostly for jump ins obv but i feel im not using sabrewulf right and its hurting me in game, not sure who fits my style

 

[SUPARNOVAX]

Shadow counter's just for the Shadow moves. If you use it incorrectly, as it's intended for the second-to-last hit on the combo, you will be frame trapped and punished as well as wasting meter.

You have to combo break the rest to shift momentum against safe moves in this game.

 

[Riyo]

Shadow counter's just for the Shadow moves. If you use it incorrectly, as it's intended for the second-to-last hit on the combo, you will be frame trapped and punished as well as wasting meter.

You have to combo break the rest to shift momentum against safe moves in this game.

You're incorrect. SC is not only for Shadow Moves. As long as you block the first hit and a second hit is incoming, you can SC into a full combo.

IE: Jago using fireball then wind kick, if timed right, you block the fireball and SC the windkick.

 

[t_rall]

Shadow counter requires 2 hits. You use SC on the first hit, and it acts like a parry on the NEXT hit. If you play the tutorial mission, it clearly states this (and it has you try both ways too). Using a SC on a 1 hit move (or the last hit of a sequence) leaves you vulnerable (again, the tutorial goes through this by having the CPU punish your whiffed SC).

Edit: SC requires 2+ hits. You should use the SC on the 2nd to last hit. In a 2 hit move, this is the first hit. On a 3 hit move, it's the 2nd hit, etc. If you use it on the first hit of a 3 hit move, the 3rd hit will still connect, punishing you.

If Jago is spamming wind kick, just jump. The hit box isn't huge, and you can pretty easily get a mid-air hit in on them. If you jump back correctly, you can land as the move finishes. Also, several shadow moves have different invulnerability properties that work as a counter to get your momentum back. Check the frame data for hurt/hit boxes.

 

[ProudDisciple]

His LK and MK version of Wind Kick are -2 and -3 on block respectively while the HK version is -5.

 

[R3CK3Dx]

so if he does raw wind kick can i shadow counter? its not that much trouble anymore was just day 1 salt lol

 

[Riyo]

so if he does raw wind kick can i shadow counter? its not that much trouble anymore was just day 1 salt lol

If he does a raw wind kick then no you can't SC it.

 

[R3CK3Dx]

If he does a raw wind kick then no you can't SC it.

okay thanks, what are my options then? i can run and do the low attack to go under it but no punish

 

[t_rall]

Like I mentioned, you can jump. Since all jump attacks are combo openers, it's easy to punish a whiffed move that you can jump over. Also, instead of jumping, you can just block and retaliate with a block string of your own that starts with a weak attack (or tick throw).

 

[Chuckychuck]

Isn't it interesting when someone struggles to get in on a player who just runs away and only does wind kick? It's quite ironic because wind kick brings the guy right to your face doing all the work for you. Let him wind kick, then out play him up close =)

 

[NurzBenny]

I'm with the OP, full screen wind kick is so dumb

 

[SUPARNOVAX]

Wind kick crushes low attacks, don't crouch and try to poke too low again.

It's like -2 or -3 on block. Swing something that's long ranged and pressure Jago.

Try to neutral jump and then whiff punish it if they spam it again.