Breakthrough Hit Confirming MB divekick (Option Select)

[Smarrgasm]

Since the patch has added extra recovery to the MB divekick on block the trick of dashing in to do more pressure and not having to hit confirm the divekick (which is impossible) is gone.

I have been thinking of new ways to deal with this seeing as it was a super important piece of the way i played Adam. I think i have found what i was looking for. I cannot record it but i will explain it to the best of my ability.

So basically, dashing in after MB divekick on block and trying pressure should now not be something you will get away with. Most people will learn to hit you out of this until you respect it and block thus opening yourself to their pressure, mixups, etc.

Now before you could just mash dash after Ex divekick with no consequence cause you had the upper hand at all times. However, I have found a way for almost the same situation to exist but possibly even better.

What you have to do is, as soon as you do the EX divekick, input a forward dash as fast as you can.

On block, the dash should not come out but in training mode you will still see your two forward inputs.

On hit, the dash will come out and you will be able to do your combo like normal.

This also means that on block you will not lose the advantage from Ex divekick which is at least +5 if you hit the face. This means b23/b2 orbs is pretty guaranteed which means you have started your offense.

Getting this down will not be very hard and it is EXTREMELY important to the metagame now that the divekick has been changed.

*****HOW TO LEARN HOW TO DO IT*****
Set your training mode dummy to random blocking and MB divekick until you can make sure you only dash forward when it hits and stay when it blocks.

Peckapowa Joker8417 Qwark28 Perfect Legend RDK|GodSpeed @All others im sure youll find this

 

[G4S Killin Natzees]

So you are saying the input for this would be udf3ff correct? and if it hits, you will dash, but not on block, right?

 

[Smarrgasm]

So you are saying the input for this would be udf3ff correct? and if it hits, you will dash, but not on block, right?

Yes, basically tack on the FF as if it were part of the divekick input. It takes a small bit of practice but its pretty easy to make it not come out on block and always come out on hit.

 

[G4S Killin Natzees]

Thats really awesome. This should probably be the standard for the EX dive kick anyway, seeing as its been altered with this new patch and dashing in afterwards takes some work to utilize the + frames now.

 

[Smarrgasm]

Thats really awesome. This should probably be the standard for the EX dive kick anyway, seeing as its been altered with this new patch and dashing in afterwards takes some work to utilize the + frames now.

Exactly. Dashing in on block and getting pressure should not be possible now. This allows you to cover both options and still take 0 risk. I am now 100% fine with all of his changes since i found this.

 

[PND i2 Gaug3]

Crap

So basically the same thing that people should be doing with scorps b2 day one scorp tech

 

[Briggs8417]

Option select the dash, that seems easy enough.

 

[G4S Killin Natzees]

Exactly. Dashing in on block and getting pressure should not be possible now. This allows you to cover both options and still take 0 risk. I am now 100% fine with all of his changes since i found this.

I haven't really messed with divekick follow ups since the patch yet, so I'm really glad you found this haha. Shouldn't be that hard to remember to do , esp. if you already spam ff like a nutjob after the divekick haha (guilty)

 

[Qwark28]

what the hell, this is new? i thought this was day one tech, this happens with many moves and many "option selects" even on block. this is not new you braindead adam player, i told you black adam will drop our iqs

 

[Smarrgasm]

what the hell, this is new? i thought this was day one tech, this happens with many moves and many "option selects" even on block. this is not new you braindead adam player, i told you black adam will drop our iqs

Please, shut your mouth. Speak again and i will blow you up on this subject. This is good tech and is for Adam after the patch. I chose to bring it to light to help the other Adam players since the changes affect his game somewhat. It could have been known but i dont see people posting about it so i did. Now go away demon.

 

[Qwark28]

Please, shut your mouth. Speak again and i will blow you up on this subject. This is good tech and is for Adam after the patch. I chose to bring it to light to help the other Adam players since the changes affect his game somewhat. It could have been known but i dont see people posting about it so i did. Now go away demon.

you csan not banish the qwark, fool. speak again and i will haunt your dreams, you will wake up in the middle of the night and wonder whether the qwark has found you.

its good tech but i thought it was known, it happens with almost every character in some way

 

[Smarrgasm]

you csan not banish the qwark, fool. speak again and i will haunt your dreams, you will wake up in the middle of the night and wonder whether the qwark has found you.

its good tech but i thought it was known, it happens with almost every character in some way

If it was known why were you in my party an hour ago crying about the MB divekick recovery and no more dashing in? I went and found the solution.
PND i2 Gaug3 can confirm your tears.

 

[PND i2 Gaug3]

If it was known why were you in my party an hour ago crying about the MB divekick recovery and no more dashing in? I went and found the solution.
PND i2 Gaug3 can confirm your tears.

They tasted of greek salt I like Tears

 

[Qwark28]

If it was known why were you in my party an hour ago crying about the MB divekick recovery and no more dashing in? I went and found the solution.
PND i2 Gaug3 can confirm your tears.

the jamaican man can also confirm i was doing this with scorpions B2 when i was testing him day 1 and a lot of other characters, these "option selects" can be used to

catch strings not fully completed
tech throws from jumps and cancelled strings/throw them when they cut the string short
parry almost instantly when someone does a parryable string

i was crying because i can no longer do 112 braindeadly, i dislike thinking and do not encourage it with BA.

 

[Error]

@All others im sure youll find this

Right. ;_;

 

[FrothyOmen]

thanks for the tag asshole

 

[Smarrgasm]

<3 Error FrothyOmen

 

[Icenick]

What you have to do is, as soon as you do the EX divekick, input a forward dash as fast as you can.

Don't you mean on hit input dash? Because I tried doing it right as I EX dive and it never worked

 

[Smarrgasm]

Don't you mean on hit input dash? Because I tried doing it right as I EX dive and it never worked

You have to find the right timing. Its not immediately after the input but slightly after. If done correctly, on hit the dash will still come out and on block it will not. No matter what you should always get a FF input.

 

[Kelter Skelter]

I just started playing black adam and I've been pretty much reacting to the bounce on hit but, this will be very useful

 

[Groove Heaven]

Good stuff. I was like trying to like pre-hitconfirm by watching to see if my opponent was blocking as divekick came out.

 

[OZZYGUITAR]

Awesome stuff, but can you not react anyway? i may be mis-understanding what you're trying to say but when i do mb divekick i can react to them blocking and not dash for the combo, it actually wasn't a problem in my mind, however this is still amazing regardless because now i don't even have to think about it

 

[Smarrgasm]

Awesome stuff, but can you not react anyway? i may be mis-understanding what you're trying to say but when i do mb divekick i can react to them blocking and not dash for the combo, it actually wasn't a problem in my mind, however this is still amazing regardless because now i don't even have to think about it

I always had a hard time hitconfirming it. Braindead is better =)

 

[OZZYGUITAR]

I always had a hard time hitconfirming it. Braindead is better =)

Fair enough haha, who needs to think right? I'd rather just press buttons and then blame the ps3 frame drops if i lose lol, but seriously, awesome tech, keep up with the good shit man

 

[GeoAtlas]

For the life of me, I still can't seem to make this trick work.