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Euphoric

Euphoric

MKX
Looking to build a PC, been out of the loop of hardware development, but a friend threw this together with me, and I'm looking for insight and advice on these parts, if I should replace something to save some more money.

CPU - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?item=N82E16819115233

Mobo - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?item=N82E16813157296

Memory - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?item=N82E16820231314

Video Card - (Need Help)

HDD - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?item=N82E16822148337

Need to know if these parts are "good". Also, I am thinking of an SSD as well, I have no clue on the GFX card.

ZAQ
 
nwo

nwo

Noob
I just helped my cousin build a PC last summer, he used an Ivy Bridge 3570 as well. Great CPU, runs cool as hell. I recommend an ASUS motherboard though, and do you really need 1.5TB of hard drive space? I prefer speed over size for the main system hard drive. Get a secondary slower larger drive for storage.

Here's a great top of the line SSD drive, they come in different sizes so the price varies greatly.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820233205
 
Euphoric

Euphoric

MKX
nwo said:
I just helped my cousin build a PC last summer, he used an Ivy Bridge 3570 as well. Great CPU, runs cool as hell. I recommend an ASUS motherboard though, and do you really need 1.5TB of hard drive space? I prefer speed over size for the main system hard drive. Get a secondary slower larger drive for storage.

Here's a great top of the line SSD drive, they come in different sizes so the price varies.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820233205
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Haha, I didn't even realize it was 1.5 TB, a friend just gave me this shopping list.

I kind of wanted to get a Westington HDD, I hear they're better. And use SSD for like my OS/programs I use frequent.

How's the RAM? And how old is that CPU. Also need a Video Card suggestions.

Also where will the SSD fit? Is it hard to hook up? My Case is like 2 years old, I was going to build a PC, I bought the Case/PSU/Win7 I hope Win7 is still good, and than IRL put my project on hold.
 
BillStickers

BillStickers

Do not touch me again.
I like pretty much everything on your list (assuming for a general purpose computer). What you need really depends on what you're using the computer for. I like ASRock and Crucial, so those are good picks. I don't keep up with hard drives that much, but when I built my current PC, I got a WD Caviar Black hard drive that has served me very well. I've heard bad things about Seagate (hard drives dying), but HDD drama tends to get fanboyish.

For the graphics card
http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/gaming-graphics-card-review,3107.html
Best way to pick out a graphics card is figuring out how much you want to pay. Also figure out if you want to bridge 2 graphics cards and make sure your Mobo supports it.

Keep in mind that whatever changes you make to your setup also need to be supported by your case, motherboard, and especially your power supply.

I got an SSD for Christmas a few years back and used it to speed up Windows. Right now I have a smaller drive that just holds the system files--all other files (user folders, program files, etc) are symlinked to my HDD.

Hope this helps. :)
 
Euphoric

Euphoric

MKX
BillStickers said:
I like pretty much everything on your list (assuming for a general purpose computer). What you need really depends on what you're buying. I like ASRock and Crucial, so those are good picks. I don't keep up with hard drives that much, but when I built my current PC, I got a WD Caviar Black hard drive that has served me very well. I've heard bad things about Seagate (hard drives dying), but HDD drama tends to get fanboyish.

For the graphics card
http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/gaming-graphics-card-review,3107.html
Best way to pick out a graphics card is figuring out how much you want to pay. Also figure out if you want to bridge 2 graphics cards and make sure your Mobo supports it.

Keep in mind that whatever changes you make to your setup also need to be supported by your case, motherboard, and especially your power supply.

I got an SSD for Christmas a few years back and used it to speed up Windows. Right now I have a smaller drive that just holds the system files--all other files (user folders, program files, etc) are symlinked to my HDD.

Hope this helps. :)
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I don't game much, but I do plan to get games here and there. Probably LoL/WoW/Dota 2/Fortnite/Loadout/etc.

Maybe stream in the future.
 
BillStickers

BillStickers

Do not touch me again.
Karried said:
I don't game much, but I do plan to get games here and there. Probably LoL/WoW/Dota 2/Fortnite/Loadout/etc.

Maybe stream in the future.
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You can probably save some money by just buying a mid-range (around $100) graphics card. Even some relatively older graphics cards can still support many newer games.
 
nwo

nwo

Noob
The CPU is from early 2012 I think, its still top of the line for the money and yeah definitely use an SSD for your OS. The Sandforce 2's are extremely fast. My cousin used 1 corsair force GT 120GB (sata 3) as his primary drive. I got two of them in RAID0, no complaints.

For the graphics card, the sky is the limit. Personally, I always invest in one good card, I don't play the SLi / Crossfire game.
 
Euphoric

Euphoric

MKX
nwo said:
The CPU is from early 2012 I think, its still top of the line for the money and yeah definitely use an SSD for your OS. The Sandforce 2's are extremely fast. My cousin used 1 corsair force GT 120GB (sata 3) as his primary drive. I got two of them in RAID0, no complaints.

For the graphics card, the sky is the limit. Personally, I always invest in one good card, I don't play the SLi / Crossfire game.
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Yeah, I have this PSU http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817139012&Tpk=hx 650

This is the case, it's kind of old, will it have a slot for SSD? http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811129066

Also I have no clue on how to hook up different HDDs/SSD together and get it to work.
 
I

iLegendary

Noob
You're from chicago area? hit up microcenter.com and instore pickup an i5 3570k it's cheaper and you get 40 dollars off a z77 mobo. The Asrock Z77 Pro4 is very good. I got it this summer and it runs my i5 2500k @ 4.5ghz easy. Also I'd suggest getting a 64 GB or more crucial/samsung SSD, you can create a dedicated boot drive or use Intel Rapid Storage tech which speed up boot time and frequently used apps :)
 
nwo

nwo

Noob
Karried said:
Yeah, I have this PSU http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817139012&Tpk=hx 650

This is the case, it's kind of old, will it have a slot for SSD? http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811129066

Also I have no clue on how to hook up different HDDs/SSD together and get it to work.
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That's a solid PSU, 650w is plenty if you're only running 1 graphics card.

The 2.5" SSD's come with a 3.5" adapter, so they will fit your case.

When you install your OS, just make sure to select the SSD, and make sure its plugged into a SATA3 port (if its a sata3 drive). I keep my storage drive unplugged when installing operating systems.
 
Euphoric

Euphoric

MKX
Ok, this is what I've got so far:

Case - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811129066

CPU - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?item=N82E16819115233

Mobo - ?

SSD - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820148448 or http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820233205 (Might not even get an SSD, but everyone says to just get it)

HDD - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822136697

Video Card - ?

Memory - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?item=N82E16820231314

Optical Drive - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16827106276

PSU - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817139012&Tpk=hx 650
 
Euphoric

Euphoric

MKX
BillStickers said:
Dude, ASRock is legit. Why are you scrapping it?
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Hmm forgot. It's good though right? My friend got like a Gigabyte. Lol.

Some of the reviews are making me doubt.

Edit: I'll also need a new Monitor, I got this PC like back in 05/6? And this Monitor doesn't have HDMI so I don't think it'll work with the Mobo.

I think I am in dire need of a upgrade, don't you think. :p.
 
Euphoric

Euphoric

MKX
ZAQ said:
SSD:
I bought a SSD only a few months ago and I'll never own a computer without one again. I got a Crucial M4 128GB for my OS. I didn't think it would be enough to put all kinds of dev tools on it, but I it's more than enough. I read that the Intel SSD's are really good too. A lot of the newer SSD's are great in terms of reliability, but you need to look at the power consumption because a few of them eat a lot of power. Intel SSDs seem to be on the top of a lot of lists.

HDD:
I wouldn't go with Seagate, get a Western Digital. A lot of people tell me of Seagates failure rate. I'm usually hit or miss with Seagate, I bought 1TB and it broke in a week and another I've had for years and it works fine. WD has always been solid for me though.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822136533
I'd go with something like this^ but I am not really sure what is meant by "Black" or "Blue" drives. I know "Green" is for power consumption and a generally considered trash. If you are going Seagate, I'd make sure you have a good warranty.
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I posted on another PC forum and was told to go for this SSD http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820147137 over the ones I've listed above, thoughts? And take a look at the other 3 things I've listed above, they say go with that over my original stuff I've listed here

http://testyourmight.com/threads/help-me-refine-my-pc-build-take-a-look.25766/#post-607278
 
Lord Beef

Lord Beef

Death Metal and Trance
About Ssds. Due to the nature of how they work, you need to make sure to ALWAYS make sure the firmware is up to date,,as well as your BIOS. Just to make sure there are no issues with trim support. But out side of that, SSD for your OS is great. Just a tidbit. And the guy above me is right, stray away from seagate for your hdd. Look into western digital RE 4 drives. The FYYS model is a great 2TB SATAII drive for example. they also have a 4tb which is tits as well :)

I'll post some hardware links for you when I'm at a computer
 
Euphoric

Euphoric

MKX
ZAQ said:
That Corsairs' specs look great and the brand is reputable. I can't speak for either of the other two but I would probably go for the Corsair after owning one. You won't even need 90gb, but I don't think you will go wrong if you bought either the Corsair or the Samsung.

Also, I am told that you should install a fresh OS onto the SSD when you get it. That is the one thing that almost everyone has agreed on when it comes to SSDs. No need for transfer kits.
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Yeah I have a Brand new Win7 64Bit that I bought back in like 2010 before this build got put on hold, I still have it.
 
Euphoric

Euphoric

MKX
o-BEEF_SUPREME-o said:
About Ssds. Due to the nature of how they work, you need to make sure to ALWAYS make sure the firmware is up to date,,as well as your BIOS. Just to make sure there are no issues with trim support. But out side of that, SSD for your OS is great. Just a tidbit. And the guy above me is right, stray away from seagate for your hdd. Look into western digital RE 4 drives. The FYYS model is a great 2TB SATAII drive for example. they also have a 4tb which is tits as well :)

I'll post some hardware links for you when I'm at a computer
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How do I know it's up to date? I don't want to put this thing together and it doesn't work, it'll be a heartbreak.
 
Lord Beef

Lord Beef

Death Metal and Trance
Karried said:
How do I know it's up to date? I don't want to put this thing together and it doesn't work, it'll be a heartbreak.
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manufacturer websites will have up to date firmware to download for their products and instructions on how to update it.

What is your budget? And how much RAM are you looking to install?
 
CYracks

CYracks

Command Grabber
I built myself a brand new Desktop from the ground up a few months ago and I can't stress enough how great having your OS on a SSD is. Your computer will boot in seconds. I probably went a little overboard on my machine, but since you don't plan to play any "Demanding" games I'd recommend the following:

This is some of the best memory you can get for the price. Very good RAM
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820145345&nm_mc=KNC-GoogleAdwords&cm_mmc=KNC-GoogleAdwords-_-pla-_-NA-_-NA

This Motherboard is solid and it has USB 3.0 so it's fairly future-poof

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813131790

The SSD... since you'll only be putting your OS and maybe your main game on it. Get this one you don't need to splurge on space. Remember, you don't NEED SSD lol

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820233205

And finally the graphics card. This is the toughest one, but I choose you GTX 650! Someone else might recommend a Radeon, but I'm kinda biased towards NVIDA

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814130827
 
aj1701

aj1701

Noob
Ugh, intel fail, amd has same performance for less. Build an amd based system. I've not bought intel since 1996, except for laptops.
 
Tang94

Tang94

Confirmed Seeker
aj1701

aj1701

Noob
Karried said:
I have to disagree. Intel's old line of CPU's are as good as top of the line AMDs.
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People that say this usually have no actual experience with amd. I've had dozens of workstations and four servers I've built all powered by amd cpus. I do have plenty of current experience with Intel at work, but for my own business I need to be a bit more cost effective.

Also, I only have used one ssd, but my experience was not so good. Drive was new in 2010, fast at first, but I came to work one day and the pc was super slow. IT told me some drives do this over time. While the cells aren't failing, when they get close they nose dive in performance. Apparently this is a known issue. Not sure if it's just some of them or all, but I'm not planning on any for myself in the near future.. and price per gb isn't great either.
 
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