Fulgore Matchup Discussion 1.0

[Vagrant]

Just getting a few threads up in prep for Fulgore's release tomorrow.

If someone wants to sticky and lock this for now that would be cool.

 

[Vagrant]

A few notes after a few days with him.

He can zone fairly well against Thunder, Sadira and Glacius.

He can zone jago fairly well until jago has meter.

Sabrewulf and Orchid can both slide under projectiles I'm currently looking at how to best blow this up.

Spinal doesn't have to put up with that shit at all. But spinals normals are outclassed by fulgores crmk. Spinal also has no low crusher I believe.

Keep in mind that in the mirror. Fulgore builds no meter from blocking H fireballs or any fireball whatsoever.



Orchid is the biggest question mark right for me right now in terms of how to approach the match. Sabrewulf too.

 

[Vagrant]

Ok. I've been grinding him for about a month now. Here are my initial matchup impressions.

Glacius: 6-4
Thunder: 6-4
Sadira: 6-4
Spinal: 5-5 (might be 4- 6 but I don't think so)
Sabrewulf: 4-6
Jago: 5-5 (might be 4-6)
Orchid: 5-5

Nothing unwinnable. I feel like thunder might be his best matchup but I need to get games in with rico. I've been rolling over almost every thunder I run into and on paper it just seems really tough for him to keep up.

 

[RikoLaw]

Spinal is def 4-6 (with skulls lol)
I think Glacius is 5-5

Can you go more into why you think Jago might be 4-6?

 

[Vagrant]

Spinal is def 4-6 (with skulls lol)
I think Glacius is 5-5

Can you go more into why you think Jago might be 4-6?

I'll keep spinal even for now.
I don't know how glacius is 5-5 when fulgore grossly outzones him and can chuck fireballs and charge meter all day.

He outfootsies fulgore and ex windkick basically makes it so that fulgore has no fireball game unless full screen. Other than that they're pretty similar characters.

 

[RikoLaw]

I'll keep spinal even for now.
I don't know how glacius is 5-5 when fulgore grossly outzones him and can chuck fireballs and charge meter all day.

He outfootsies fulgore and ex windkick basically makes it so that fulgore has no fireball game unless full screen. Other than that they're pretty similar characters.

Fulgore out zones Glacius and has better AA's but that’s not the only way to play glacius... Filthy, Fchamp, and Orochi all play him differently.

 

[Vagrant]

Fulgore out zones Glacius and has better AA's but that’s not the only way to play glacius... Filthy, Fchamp, and Orochi all play him differently.

Yeah. You can play him rush down all you want. That doesn't change the fact that fulgore still has the tools to play legit keepaway from glacius. I'm not saying I won't lose to any of those guys I'm just saying they will have to work harder than I will.

 

[JHCRANE 14]

I have Spinal as Fulgore's only clear cut losing match up. Everyone else I have as a 5-5 or winning watch up.

Glacius is my main and I have this a 5-5 with a slight edge to Fulgore...so maybe 5.5-4.5 in Fulgore's favor.

 

[Vagrant]

Fulgore beats Sadira. Learning how to respond to all her bullshit though takes ALOT of time.

This matchup is going to feel awful for new fulgore players but once you get your oki and keepaway down it's hell for her to try and close space. Especially when fulgore has full meter.

 

[Low Blow]

What are some good tools against the Sadira matchup. right now it feels for me that I can't keep her out. Is there also any normals that stuff her ex on wakeup? Cause I know Jago has st. HP and cr. HP on wake up to stuff it.

 

[Chris4387]

For me my worst MU's as fulgore are Sabrewulf and Orchid. They can both completely negate your zoning tools. Sabres running slide and orchids slide go under all your projectile options. Against sabrewulf its very difficult especially at the start of the match. It's hard to keep him off of you and build meter. Shadow counters vs sabrewulf are really important and you don't have access to conventional meter building to stop his offense early on. It's practically a struggle until you manage to build meter or get instinct, similar issues in the orchid matchup.

To the above poster standing light kick as fulgore is a good meaty and crouching fierce punch. Crouching fierce punch has a good hitbox and active frames. These 2 meaties stuff alot of stuff and can be canceled into light laser for a good frametrap or hitconfirm into combo.